Barralad 40 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Just another wannabe gangsta criminal toe-rag less. The worlds a better place without this sort of person anyway. Give the Marksman a bonus, some more ammo and let him get rid of some more of the low-life crims IMO. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pointer 543 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 If you play with feathers you'll get your arse tickled. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 its the cover up that always gets me though mate. especially in a case like this.my thinking is they get off scot free and,and no lesson is learned.next time they f**k up who else catches a stray bullet. im no expert but the mere fact they shot him so many times in the head,suggests they were panicking like f**k 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 If you play with feathers you'll get your arse tickled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 its the cover up that always gets me though mate. especially in a case like this.my thinking is they get off scot free and,and no lesson is learned.next time they f**k up who else catches a stray bullet. im no expert but the mere fact they shot him so many times in the head,suggests they were panicking like f**k That's SFs mate. It's standard practice for them, look at the guy in the Embassey in 1980, + shots for one kill! Just another job in their minds. And with bombers whether SFs or CO19 the head shot is the only option. It was an intelligence f**k up at a time when London was moving with threats. That's not an excuse and there will have been a lot learnt from it. There is a certain amount of anonymity and understanding allowed to our top end anti terror units, so they're not second guessing themselves in the heat of the moment. But they are all accountable. I guess my thinking is regards these things, I'd rather have the lads we do making the odd f**k up than an overly cautious bunch making none but missing plenty too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 its the cover up that always gets me though mate. especially in a case like this.my thinking is they get off scot free and,and no lesson is learned.next time they f**k up who else catches a stray bullet. im no expert but the mere fact they shot him so many times in the head,suggests they were panicking like f**k I know it ain't funny but that reminded me of that scene out of me, myself and Irene when he shoots the cow a dozen times, strangles it, boots f**k out of it then the police at the end say, you almost killed a cow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 my thinking is there isnt a security service in the world. that if given to much carte blanche you will rue the day lol oh born they werent the SAS if they had been i dont think for one second this would have happened,and if it did he wouldnt have got on that tube. they were special branch.trained by SFs but still just cops really who work directly with security services 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 my thinking is there isnt a security service in the world. that if given to much carte blanche you will rue the day lol oh born they werent the SAS if they had been i dont think for one second this would have happened,and if it did he wouldnt have got on that tube. they were special branch.trained by SFs but still just cops really who work directly with security services Not from what I've read Scott. From what I've read they were Army Intelligence operators from the Special Reconnaissance Regiment. Basically an Army Intelligence unit attached to and trained by the SAS. They specialise in intelligence gathering and counter terrorism, born in Northern Ireland. They will have been seconded to the Police for their specific skills in the area and to avoid the government the embarassment of having to admit to deploying the Army. It's many experts opinion the engagement and killing was textbook SFs. But f**k knows, I'm just going off what I've read, I'm hardly James Bond. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 aye they were the same boys who bugged the local boozer in my town years ago,and rented a flat over from it.then low and behold few weeks later a load of UVF were arrested with guns at there heads lol one was a taxi driver got a few year for gun running. funnily enough he was released cpl year ago,and someone cut his throat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewman 1,192 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Isn't the SRS a mix is the SAS and the SBS who specialize in high end surveillance and not drawn from anywhere else? Maybe I'm courting controversy here but wasn't the Brazilian chap shot on the tube an illegal immigrant? Not by any means saying he deserved it but if he went to back to Brazil when his visa expired me may still be alive. Just a thought...... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 he was illlegal hois visa expired. but as you said really thats no excuse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Isn't the SRS a mix is the SAS and the SBS who specialize in high end surveillance and not drawn from anywhere else? Maybe I'm courting controversy here but wasn't the Brazilian chap shot on the tube an illegal immigrant? Not by any means saying he deserved it but if he went to back to Brazil when his visa expired me may still be alive. Just a thought...... The SRR is a Tier 1 special forces regiment like the SAS and SBS. They draw from other special forces and the wider UK military, RMs, Paras, etc. They're basically 14 Int. rebranded to my understanding. Yeah they specialise in intelligence gathering and counter terrorism, freeing the SAS to specialise in direct action but are trained by the SAS to do exactly that I believe. That's why they work alongside MI5, CO19 etc with this stuff, they are a military unit designed with a similar objective. Anyway, the only reason I mention all this is in defence of our security services. Didn't mean to redirect the thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,316 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 lets look at it like this duggans a no good waster only good at shagging but the cop have some intel on him follow him stop the car he gets out and bang they shoot an unarmed member of the public fact now we are at war with the taliban and marine a finds a raghead lay on the ground he hesitates assess the situation the raghead MAY have had a gun or a grenade marine a shoots him marine a now gets done and put in nick --------- pc firearms gets a pat on the back and everything is rigged covered up bear in mined were at war in one situation the other in another day in london how the hell can that be lawfull ---- the marine is lawfull if anybody is The mistake the marine made was filming it..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Isn't the SRS a mix is the SAS and the SBS who specialize in high end surveillance and not drawn from anywhere else? Maybe I'm courting controversy here but wasn't the Brazilian chap shot on the tube an illegal immigrant? Not by any means saying he deserved it but if he went to back to Brazil when his visa expired me may still be alive. Just a thought...... The SRR is a Tier 1 special forces regiment like the SAS and SBS. They draw from other special forces and the wider UK military, RMs, Paras, etc. They're basically 14 Int. rebranded to my understanding. Yeah they specialise in intelligence gathering and counter terrorism, freeing the SAS to specialise in direct action but are trained by the SAS to do exactly that I believe. That's why they work alongside MI5, CO19 etc with this stuff, they are a military unit designed with a similar objective. Anyway, the only reason I mention all this is in defence of our security services. Didn't mean to redirect the thread. the old company 14 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Isn't the SRS a mix is the SAS and the SBS who specialize in high end surveillance and not drawn from anywhere else? Maybe I'm courting controversy here but wasn't the Brazilian chap shot on the tube an illegal immigrant? Not by any means saying he deserved it but if he went to back to Brazil when his visa expired me may still be alive. Just a thought...... The SRR is a Tier 1 special forces regiment like the SAS and SBS. They draw from other special forces and the wider UK military, RMs, Paras, etc. They're basically 14 Int. rebranded to my understanding. Yeah they specialise in intelligence gathering and counter terrorism, freeing the SAS to specialise in direct action but are trained by the SAS to do exactly that I believe. That's why they work alongside MI5, CO19 etc with this stuff, they are a military unit designed with a similar objective. Anyway, the only reason I mention all this is in defence of our security services. Didn't mean to redirect the thread. the old company 14 Do they have a Peacock as their emblem? I used to work with a guy in Algeria who was in the intelligence services, interesting stories! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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