trenchfoot 4,243 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/37/contents there you go. There is a printable PDF file on that page for you to enlighten the pricks 2 Quote Link to post
courseadog 231 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Would a pedo get a driving ban or car confiscated like a hare courser ? 1 Quote Link to post
Matt 160 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Would a pedo get a driving ban or car confiscated like a hare courser ? No, they'd be banged up, beaten up, loose their jobs, loose their homes and families and generally have their lives destroyed. In my opinion, rightly so. There is NO comparison between that and people who choose to take a gamble on breaking the hunting act. The police are not infallible, and they're not lawyers. They make mistakes from time to time which is no comfort to those on the receiving end of one of their errors. In general, providing you are polite and reasonable, any misunderstanding can usually be resolved quickly. Sadly, there are always exceptions to this. While I hate the hunting act, and love to see dogs working, I can understand that in some areas the countryside has become a lawless place with rampant crime, because a minority think that it's OK to drive on crops, smash gates and fences, disrespect the quarry and generally make a nuisance of themselves. A couple of years ago Mrs Rat was out exercising her horse on a private track while some illegal coursing was going on. The coursers were driving on newly drilled crops, and when they saw her on her mobile drove straight at her. That is not sporting, nor is it sensible. Mrs Rat is a hunting supporter but just imagine if she hadn't been? What if she was a 'fence sitter'? That incident could have easily turned her into a rabid anti, and she would have been telling everyone and anyone what a bunch of dicks all coursers are.... What happens then? Farmers, local authorities etc all put pressure on the police to act on what has been going on and expect the police to take a hard line. Their attitude suddenly becomes much less flexible, and they treat anyone out in the countryside with a running dog as being suspicious. So who's fault is it? The police? No. The politicians and the dicks who drive on crops mob handed and have no respect for the countryside are to blame... Quote Link to post
trenchfoot 4,243 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 This is the advice they (plod etc) look to when trying to do you. worth a read to ensure your all above board http://huntingact.org/ 2 Quote Link to post
bornhunterharvey 113 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 never heard of cops carrying chip scanners did cross my mind If some of the lads on here that have had there dogs chord , have got the law involved than I can see the law carrying a micro chiop scanner. Or dogs going missing where the lads got permission. Quote Link to post
courseadog 231 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Would a pedo get a driving ban or car confiscated like a hare courser ? No, they'd be banged up, beaten up, loose their jobs, loose their homes and families and generally have their lives destroyed. In my opinion, rightly so. There is NO comparison between that and people who choose to take a gamble on breaking the hunting act. The police are not infallible, and they're not lawyers. They make mistakes from time to time which is no comfort to those on the receiving end of one of their errors. In general, providing you are polite and reasonable, any misunderstanding can usually be resolved quickly. Sadly, there are always exceptions to this. While I hate the hunting act, and love to see dogs working, I can understand that in some areas the countryside has become a lawless place with rampant crime, because a minority think that it's OK to drive on crops, smash gates and fences, disrespect the quarry and generally make a nuisance of themselves. A couple of years ago Mrs Rat was out exercising her horse on a private track while some illegal coursing was going on. The coursers were driving on newly drilled crops, and when they saw her on her mobile drove straight at her. That is not sporting, nor is it sensible. Mrs Rat is a hunting supporter but just imagine if she hadn't been? What if she was a 'fence sitter'? That incident could have easily turned her into a rabid anti, and she would have been telling everyone and anyone what a bunch of dicks all coursers are.... What happens then? Farmers, local authorities etc all put pressure on the police to act on what has been going on and expect the police to take a hard line. Their attitude suddenly becomes much less flexible, and they treat anyone out in the countryside with a running dog as being suspicious. So who's fault is it? The police? No. The politicians and the dicks who drive on crops mob handed and have no respect for the countryside are to blame... Your spot on and every one would agree that should happen to a nonce but the law is to leanient on them in my opinion And as for driving fields it's f****d it for everyone no doubt about that Quote Link to post
squab 2,875 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) What's the crack on this one lads and keep it sensible please Was out tonight me and a pal in my 2 seater van and 2 dogs in the back with another mate in a car behind with 1 dog and was on our way to permission for some lamping at 1 am when the police stopped us and my van has got pest control written all over it and my numbers,so told them what we was doing and going to some permission to run a few rabbits for the farmer as I do pest control and to cut along story short the copper said if we even catch rabbits on our permission we can get nicked and even if we come off our permission and had rabbits in the van and he can prove the dog caught them we would be nicked as under the 2004 act it's against the law for any dog to hunt a mammal,to be honest I don't know much about this but all I know is I am a fast as my dogs on my toes if them c**ts come into a field and forgot to say than scanned the dogs micro chips aswell,any ideas on where I stand on this as in future if they stop me I am just going no comment all the way after giving my name eh pukka,was hookey with you bad crack if he was he got us pulled twice in 1/2 hour one night,wrong un mate steer clear if i was you Edited January 6, 2014 by hunter1372 1 Quote Link to post
ferretsandhawks 47 Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Lol hunter (pukka) Nope dave was not out with us last night and it's ok I know he is a police informer so I know they gave you a little drink and sent you on your way 1 Quote Link to post
Qbgrey 4,091 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 matt the rat spot on.in my younger days came across some total prick coppers and one arrognant c...t recent.but ive also been stopped on the lane holding sometbhing which could of seen me away for a while.but the coppers were spot on.nothing ,had a chat and i jumped into field no bother. Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) Id have politely explained to the officer involved that he was very much in the wrong,if he then became arsey id have again politely put my case across and informed him that I will be going about my legal activities and would like to be allowed to be on my way.Id also have told him that ive taken a note of his tag number and would be making a complaint about him as soon as,the complaint being about a wildlife officer who did,nt live up to his job description.The more complaints that are made about these sort of slight injustices,the more the police will stay clear of lads going about their lawful hunting lifestyle.Don,t be bothered about getting a little grief for putting in a complaint,its rare that happens now,the more complaints the more the police will educate their officers about wildlife law,the only real education they are receiving is funded by anti-hunting organisations.It takes only an hour of your time to pop down to the local station and put the,Official Complaint,in motion,ill guarantee you and others hunting legally in that area will soon be dealt with in a more professional manner,the lads that walk on thinner ice are adept at dealing better with these situations,no amount of complaints will help their cause,possibly?. Edited January 6, 2014 by morton 4 Quote Link to post
nans pat 2,575 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 dont go to the local station you be conplaining to his mate.take his number.time and location ane phone the ombusman you will get an appointment this goes all offical then and starts a whole rigmarole they dont like this .if everybody done this they soon fook off. Quote Link to post
Rat face 1,655 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 anyone who hunts with dogs should be a 100% on the law even if you work within it or not.my advise to any young lads or anyone who is new to the game would be take the time to read and learn the laws and legislation on the hunting act, you never know when you just might just need it atb adam 4 Quote Link to post
squab 2,875 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Lol hunter (pukka) Nope dave was not out with us last night and it's ok I know he is a police informer so I know they gave you a little drink and sent you on your way just running a few rabbits guv honest Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 With all "Official Complaints"its quicker and better to go local,1, it gets round the local station that we are not willing to put up with their ineptitude and 2,other lads in the area will benefit from your actions.All complaints are investigated by an outside force,in the vast majority of cases there is no case to answer,after investigation.But,it goes on the officers record,it goes on police files and its brought to the attention of the local force,who will then have to act on it,the more complaints the more serious they take it,the end result is a force that no longer uses the wildlife law to harass and discriminate,no longer allows its officers to use the law for their own agenda and allows lads and lasses to go about their legitimate hunting activity.Only 2 or 3 people in each Police area is all that's needed to get the ball rolling,2 or 3?,even the lurcher and terrier community,in their little straw houses,must be able to muster that sort of enthusiasm and commitment?. 2 Quote Link to post
Qbgrey 4,091 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 id rather not have them understand the hunting act,if caught somewhere ,hunting its easy to get out of it. 2 Quote Link to post
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