Thatcher.......even More Lies

[baw 4,360]

What about those couples on minimum with a child

 

what about those on minimum living alone

 

what about those caring for disabled family member who;s incapacity benefit divvy dave has just stopped

 

What about communities 'families being pulled apart and folks getting in debt due to this when there aint enough 1 bedroom propertys to Re House them anyways ffs

 

Its laughable

 

who actually believes MP's are earning their salarys and status ?

 

They are the crux of the problem from start to finish

 

You have those who believe its their right thru birth and or social standing to run the business that is Great Britain when they have NO Business experience.

 

They pass laws they dont adhere too

 

They introduce taxation that wont effect themselfs

 

The give themselfs over inflated pay rises whilst others are on the bones lol

 

Wake up all and smell the coffee thru the smokescreen of bullshite.

 

We are getting played for the mugs we are.

 

Cameron , Osbourne and co need putting in their place

 

a Vote for UKIP would do this.

 

Dont waste your chance to make the change to GB that is needed.

Your only voting in more numpties UKIP want refugees, that's the start of the slippery slope. Best if everyone stopped playing their charade and didn't vote, but you won't and round and round we go WWWWWHHHHHEEEEEEE

[tatsblisters 9,498]

I'd say that buying your own house now is just propping up the bubble that little bit longer !

Trouble is rents are just getting higher and higher so buying has got to be a better option sad reality buying is now firmly behond the grasp of a lot of hard working people.

[Born Hunter 17,751]

Max, there's a lot wrong with the system. Yeah it's very hard for some people on lower incomes and also imo very unfair for what I would consider the middle classes who imo get taxed unfairly (I'm not one of these middle class either).

 

Initially I was simply pointing out to Paulus that 150k and 70% LTV is unrealistic for first time buyers. Also how most of us at the bottom of the property ladder have unrealistic expectation and need to drop them.

 

As for single mums, young families etc our welfare system is still pretty supportive of them imo. I believe there are also schemes for lower earning couples to get onto the property ladder? But what do we really expect? I mean what exactly are the government to do about a rapidly exploding population? It's a product of our welfare state, but we can't take that away because it'd be a vote killer. It's a perpetual spirral of shit down the pit of no return! And I don't just blame parliament.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

 

 

 

you all blab on about how she ruined mining and car making in this country, you all need to think back and realise that back then that the cars BL produced were shite, no question, utter shite, and the mining industry and their unions thought that they run the country and thought they had everyone by the bollocks, 3 day weeks and power cuts are still in my memory, the unions needed their arse kicked big style and they got it, by sticking to the stupid pay demands that at the end of the day could not be afforded they got told to do one, as to coal, its still underground here, when the time comes when all other areas have a shortage we`ll have our own reserve

Spot on. The unions f****d it. Same thing was happening at grangemouth refinery before Christmas. Union acting the big shot calling the workers to strike over pensions. Company said accept the contract or we will close the plant. Unions, we ain't taking your contract. Company, ok, plants closed your all out of a job, bye. Next day unions back cap in hand, please sir, can we sign the contract and get our jobs back please the problem is folk think the world owes them a living. If towns are built up around failed industries like the steel works and mines, that is no ones fault, shit happens. You need to go out there and find work. That's what's wrong with this country, all doom and gloom cos there ain't no local work a stones throw from your house. Look at the poles etc, they go to foreign countries to find work, usually work our guys are too soft to do. Don't see them bleating on about it 30 odd f*****g years later.

. Its thick spineless twats like you that perpetuate the mythe of the lazy brit listern shit for brains. This country has and all ways will have. People that. Work the system. , it all so has and allways will have Engineers , designers , inovators , that the world envy we produce top end product So next time you want to salivate over the dregs of europe feel free to join them. In their low life exsistance this nation lost thousands of brave young men to liberate in two world wars Then again when lecks union needed support are workers stood by them. Now the very same nation invades are country. And dick heads like you. Think there some super work force. Fook you are one brain dead tosser

you don't half talk some shite I perpetuate the myth of the lazy Brit? How did the Indians get a foot hold in this country? By working on the buses, jobs our lot wouldn't do. The poles work farms picking fruit, potatoes again cos our lot wouldn't do it. I listened to a radio program when the recession started, main stream radio, think it was radio 2. Guy bleating on how he can't get a job, tried everything. An mp louder phoned in and said I've got a job for you. Guy asked what it was, I can't remember but it was within the guys employment range. His next question was where is it. It was 10 miles away. The guy said ohh that's too far, I was looking for something more local, gen up. I nearly died with laughing, a clown like you who goes to the bother of phoning a national radio station bleating how he can't get work but the truth is, he wants work but on his terms. When times are hard you need to take what you can get. I don't like the poles etc but I f*****g respect them. Farms up this way would struggle without them. I've given a few lifts, most recent was 2 lassies thumbing a lift from outside Elgin to Inverness. Both on working holidays, one was heading to Skye the other John o groats. Working for no more than a roof and food. One from Norway the other Poland. Both came over on their own, you got to admire that courage. Too many in this country want an easy time, jobs handed to them with a lifetime guarantee. They jobs are gone. You can blame the government all you want but the mines were failing but I'm just wasting my breath. I've seen your type all my life, small minded souls who need someone to blame and it's usually the government. You get it drummed into your head at an early age to hate the Tories and nothing will detract you from that school of thought. Think for yourself for once, it's so liberating my fellow bleating sheep.

travelled all my life gobshite as do the maj of the construction industries And the maj of this country who have grafted all the lives diferance is the money goes back into the pot. Jobs with life time garentees lol not only do you perpetuate shit you even believe the shit you write You talking to some one whos worked and found work fo employees through three recessions yeh wee prick. And still know the the worth of british labour.

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

 

you all blab on about how she ruined mining and car making in this country, you all need to think back and realise that back then that the cars BL produced were shite, no question, utter shite, and the mining industry and their unions thought that they run the country and thought they had everyone by the bollocks, 3 day weeks and power cuts are still in my memory, the unions needed their arse kicked big style and they got it, by sticking to the stupid pay demands that at the end of the day could not be afforded they got told to do one, as to coal, its still underground here, when the time comes when all other areas have a shortage we`ll have our own reserve

Spot on. The unions f****d it. Same thing was happening at grangemouth refinery before Christmas. Union acting the big shot calling the workers to strike over pensions. Company said accept the contract or we will close the plant. Unions, we ain't taking your contract. Company, ok, plants closed your all out of a job, bye. Next day unions back cap in hand, please sir, can we sign the contract and get our jobs back please the problem is folk think the world owes them a living. If towns are built up around failed industries like the steel works and mines, that is no ones fault, shit happens. You need to go out there and find work. That's what's wrong with this country, all doom and gloom cos there ain't no local work a stones throw from your house. Look at the poles etc, they go to foreign countries to find work, usually work our guys are too soft to do. Don't see them bleating on about it 30 odd f*****g years later.

. Its thick spineless twats like you that perpetuate the mythe of the lazy brit listern shit for brains. This country has and all ways will have. People that. Work the system. , it all so has and allways will have Engineers , designers , inovators , that the world envy we produce top end product So next time you want to salivate over the dregs of europe feel free to join them. In their low life exsistance this nation lost thousands of brave young men to liberate in two world wars Then again when lecks union needed support are workers stood by them. Now the very same nation invades are country. And dick heads like you. Think there some super work force. Fook you are one brain dead tosser

you don't half talk some shite I perpetuate the myth of the lazy Brit? How did the Indians get a foot hold in this country? By working on the buses, jobs our lot wouldn't do. The poles work farms picking fruit, potatoes again cos our lot wouldn't do it. I listened to a radio program when the recession started, main stream radio, think it was radio 2. Guy bleating on how he can't get a job, tried everything. An mp louder phoned in and said I've got a job for you. Guy asked what it was, I can't remember but it was within the guys employment range. His next question was where is it. It was 10 miles away. The guy said ohh that's too far, I was looking for something more local, gen up. I nearly died with laughing, a clown like you who goes to the bother of phoning a national radio station bleating how he can't get work but the truth is, he wants work but on his terms. When times are hard you need to take what you can get. I don't like the poles etc but I f*****g respect them. Farms up this way would struggle without them. I've given a few lifts, most recent was 2 lassies thumbing a lift from outside Elgin to Inverness. Both on working holidays, one was heading to Skye the other John o groats. Working for no more than a roof and food. One from Norway the other Poland. Both came over on their own, you got to admire that courage. Too many in this country want an easy time, jobs handed to them with a lifetime guarantee. They jobs are gone. You can blame the government all you want but the mines were failing but I'm just wasting my breath. I've seen your type all my life, small minded souls who need someone to blame and it's usually the government. You get it drummed into your head at an early age to hate the Tories and nothing will detract you from that school of thought. Think for yourself for once, it's so liberating my fellow bleating sheep.

travelled all my life gobshite as do the maj of the construction industries And the maj of this country who have grafted all the lives diferance is the money goes back into the pot. Jobs with life time garentees lol not only do you perpetuate shit you even believe the shit you write You talking to some one whos worked and found work fo employees through three recessions yeh wee prick. And still know the the worth of british labour.

calm down dear, it's not good to get all emotional at your age 3 recessions eh, when were these? I thought you worked down the pits going with this thread, you took the mantra of chief spokesman now let me hear you lose it again with the petty name calling bubba

[gonetoearth 5,144]

 

 

 

 

 

you all blab on about how she ruined mining and car making in this country, you all need to think back and realise that back then that the cars BL produced were shite, no question, utter shite, and the mining industry and their unions thought that they run the country and thought they had everyone by the bollocks, 3 day weeks and power cuts are still in my memory, the unions needed their arse kicked big style and they got it, by sticking to the stupid pay demands that at the end of the day could not be afforded they got told to do one, as to coal, its still underground here, when the time comes when all other areas have a shortage we`ll have our own reserve

Spot on. The unions f****d it. Same thing was happening at grangemouth refinery before Christmas. Union acting the big shot calling the workers to strike over pensions. Company said accept the contract or we will close the plant. Unions, we ain't taking your contract. Company, ok, plants closed your all out of a job, bye. Next day unions back cap in hand, please sir, can we sign the contract and get our jobs back please the problem is folk think the world owes them a living. If towns are built up around failed industries like the steel works and mines, that is no ones fault, shit happens. You need to go out there and find work. That's what's wrong with this country, all doom and gloom cos there ain't no local work a stones throw from your house. Look at the poles etc, they go to foreign countries to find work, usually work our guys are too soft to do. Don't see them bleating on about it 30 odd f*****g years later.

. Its thick spineless twats like you that perpetuate the mythe of the lazy brit listern shit for brains. This country has and all ways will have. People that. Work the system. , it all so has and allways will have Engineers , designers , inovators , that the world envy we produce top end product So next time you want to salivate over the dregs of europe feel free to join them. In their low life exsistance this nation lost thousands of brave young men to liberate in two world wars Then again when lecks union needed support are workers stood by them. Now the very same nation invades are country. And dick heads like you. Think there some super work force. Fook you are one brain dead tosser

you don't half talk some shite I perpetuate the myth of the lazy Brit? How did the Indians get a foot hold in this country? By working on the buses, jobs our lot wouldn't do. The poles work farms picking fruit, potatoes again cos our lot wouldn't do it. I listened to a radio program when the recession started, main stream radio, think it was radio 2. Guy bleating on how he can't get a job, tried everything. An mp louder phoned in and said I've got a job for you. Guy asked what it was, I can't remember but it was within the guys employment range. His next question was where is it. It was 10 miles away. The guy said ohh that's too far, I was looking for something more local, gen up. I nearly died with laughing, a clown like you who goes to the bother of phoning a national radio station bleating how he can't get work but the truth is, he wants work but on his terms. When times are hard you need to take what you can get. I don't like the poles etc but I f*****g respect them. Farms up this way would struggle without them. I've given a few lifts, most recent was 2 lassies thumbing a lift from outside Elgin to Inverness. Both on working holidays, one was heading to Skye the other John o groats. Working for no more than a roof and food. One from Norway the other Poland. Both came over on their own, you got to admire that courage. Too many in this country want an easy time, jobs handed to them with a lifetime guarantee. They jobs are gone. You can blame the government all you want but the mines were failing but I'm just wasting my breath. I've seen your type all my life, small minded souls who need someone to blame and it's usually the government. You get it drummed into your head at an early age to hate the Tories and nothing will detract you from that school of thought. Think for yourself for once, it's so liberating my fellow bleating sheep.

travelled all my life gobshite as do the maj of the construction industries And the maj of this country who have grafted all the lives diferance is the money goes back into the pot. Jobs with life time garentees lol not only do you perpetuate shit you even believe the shit you write You talking to some one whos worked and found work fo employees through three recessions yeh wee prick. And still know the the worth of british labour.

calm down dear, it's not good to get all emotional at your age 3 recessions eh, when were these? I thought you worked down the pits going with this thread, you took the mantra of chief spokesman now let me hear you lose it again with the petty name calling bubba

dont flatter your self am just a good judge of character and you fall under the the gobshite mantel you will see in previous post i have respect for people but not for gobshites Especially ones who try to get involved in subject well above the intellect , oh and as for my politics read and digest you might glean a bit of knowledge West indian bus drivers lol. Google has a lot to answer for lol

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

 

 

 

you all blab on about how she ruined mining and car making in this country, you all need to think back and realise that back then that the cars BL produced were shite, no question, utter shite, and the mining industry and their unions thought that they run the country and thought they had everyone by the bollocks, 3 day weeks and power cuts are still in my memory, the unions needed their arse kicked big style and they got it, by sticking to the stupid pay demands that at the end of the day could not be afforded they got told to do one, as to coal, its still underground here, when the time comes when all other areas have a shortage we`ll have our own reserve

Spot on. The unions f****d it. Same thing was happening at grangemouth refinery before Christmas. Union acting the big shot calling the workers to strike over pensions. Company said accept the contract or we will close the plant. Unions, we ain't taking your contract. Company, ok, plants closed your all out of a job, bye. Next day unions back cap in hand, please sir, can we sign the contract and get our jobs back please the problem is folk think the world owes them a living. If towns are built up around failed industries like the steel works and mines, that is no ones fault, shit happens. You need to go out there and find work. That's what's wrong with this country, all doom and gloom cos there ain't no local work a stones throw from your house. Look at the poles etc, they go to foreign countries to find work, usually work our guys are too soft to do. Don't see them bleating on about it 30 odd f*****g years later.

. Its thick spineless twats like you that perpetuate the mythe of the lazy brit listern shit for brains. This country has and all ways will have. People that. Work the system. , it all so has and allways will have Engineers , designers , inovators , that the world envy we produce top end product So next time you want to salivate over the dregs of europe feel free to join them. In their low life exsistance this nation lost thousands of brave young men to liberate in two world wars Then again when lecks union needed support are workers stood by them. Now the very same nation invades are country. And dick heads like you. Think there some super work force. Fook you are one brain dead tosser

you don't half talk some shite I perpetuate the myth of the lazy Brit? How did the Indians get a foot hold in this country? By working on the buses, jobs our lot wouldn't do. The poles work farms picking fruit, potatoes again cos our lot wouldn't do it. I listened to a radio program when the recession started, main stream radio, think it was radio 2. Guy bleating on how he can't get a job, tried everything. An mp louder phoned in and said I've got a job for you. Guy asked what it was, I can't remember but it was within the guys employment range. His next question was where is it. It was 10 miles away. The guy said ohh that's too far, I was looking for something more local, gen up. I nearly died with laughing, a clown like you who goes to the bother of phoning a national radio station bleating how he can't get work but the truth is, he wants work but on his terms. When times are hard you need to take what you can get. I don't like the poles etc but I f*****g respect them. Farms up this way would struggle without them. I've given a few lifts, most recent was 2 lassies thumbing a lift from outside Elgin to Inverness. Both on working holidays, one was heading to Skye the other John o groats. Working for no more than a roof and food. One from Norway the other Poland. Both came over on their own, you got to admire that courage. Too many in this country want an easy time, jobs handed to them with a lifetime guarantee. They jobs are gone. You can blame the government all you want but the mines were failing but I'm just wasting my breath. I've seen your type all my life, small minded souls who need someone to blame and it's usually the government. You get it drummed into your head at an early age to hate the Tories and nothing will detract you from that school of thought. Think for yourself for once, it's so liberating my fellow bleating sheep.

travelled all my life gobshite as do the maj of the construction industries And the maj of this country who have grafted all the lives diferance is the money goes back into the pot. Jobs with life time garentees lol not only do you perpetuate shit you even believe the shit you write You talking to some one whos worked and found work fo employees through three recessions yeh wee prick. And still know the the worth of british labour.

calm down dear, it's not good to get all emotional at your age 3 recessions eh, when were these? I thought you worked down the pits going with this thread, you took the mantra of chief spokesman now let me hear you lose it again with the petty name calling bubba

dont flatter your self am just a good judge of character and you fall under the the gobshite mantel you will see in previous post i have respect for people but not for gobshites Especially ones who try to get involved in subject well above the intellect , oh and as for my politics read and digest you might glean a bit of knowledge West indian bus drivers lol. Google has a lot to answer for lol

I'm sorry, are you under the influence I want your respect again, it's a simple question even a simpleton like yourself can answer. You mention you employed people through 3 recessions, when were these3 recessions? Over to you chief......

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Work it out gobshite. And ask yeh tart about me ive woked up you end many times if you want your level of debate go back on face book. Theres a good sweaty.

[baw 4,360]

Baw Ukip said it would back bringing 500 Syrian refugees to GB instead of sending 700 million

Foreign aid to Syria which wouldn't reach it's intended targets anyways

Sounds like common sence to me

And at least he dare say it exactly how he sees it not like the lying shower of shite that spin any bullshit.

Ukip is against mass immigration 100%

But they ain't divvy like Dave

500 temporary genuine asylum seekers is better than throwing best part of a Billion pounds away

The thing I don't get is I thought asylum seekers, refugees call them what you will had to go to the nearest country that was a safe haven for them. I'm sure we ain't that. Would it not be better to pick the lucky 500, get them to the closest country that's safe and pay that country whatever it would cost us to keep them? No that probably wouldn't work, cos we are mugs.

[baw 4,360]

Work it out gobshite. And ask yeh tart about me ive woked up you end many times if you want your level of debate go back on face book. Theres a good sweaty.

So the questions too hard? Bless..... As I said at the beginning, you don't half talk some shite HAW HAW HAW ya prize ticket.

[Born Hunter 17,751]

Max, I knew you would blame immigration and that has indeed added to the rate of growth. But the immigrant population of this Island sits at around 10% I believe? Yet the total population has grown much more than that. The native population has exploded as well and that is because of our welfare state. House prices will be tied to this, supply and demand, simple economics.

 

Immigration has been used to prop up this welfare system at the expense of our society on the street level. I agree.

 

It's a vicious circle! But suppose a hard line party came along that wanted to axe our countrys benefits and welfare, forcing a self sufficient attitude of individual responsibility...... who's going to vote for them? No majority I can tell you, no state pensions, no NHS, responsibility for your family in your own hands, god forbid the day eh? The joys of democracy...

[baw 4,360]

That's fine but I want to know the dates of the last 3 recessions gonetopot employed folk during

[Joe67 239]

Vote YES!!!!!!!!

[Joe67 239]

Do that and we are all Fooked inc you's

Brussels would love that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNrLI3OBwg

[Born Hunter 17,751]

It's immigrant offspring that are probably 70% of all births in this country since 96'

Immigrants should have to pay into the system full time for a minimum of 3 years before being able to take a penny what so ever back out

No housing benefits

No child tax credits

No social whatsoever

They should also have to take out private health ins till they have paid in for a full 3 years so that they are not a drain on the NHS

They should also ALL have to be able to pass a TB test and a Acceptable English Language test

Before they are even allowed to set foot anywhere in GB

 

I agree with most of that Max but you can't blame the population explosion soley on immigration. It's just not true.