Thatcher.......even More Lies

[twobob 1,497]

It was the unions that f**ked it not Thatcher. By the way Blair closed the rest of them

how do you work that out the pits where privatised 26jan 1997 blair didnt get in until may of that year

[NEWSBOY 306]

this is a working mans forum, let the old slags name die with her.

[The Seeker 3,048]

Where was Kinnock's type and his unions when Harold Wilson was in power?

 

Wilson the Labour MP prior to Thatcher closed 290 pits while he was in office why were the unions not going on strike when this was happening?

 

Thatcher closed 160 whilst she was in office. The closure of the coal mines had already begun and in much larger quantities than Thatcher but for some reason it's ignored...

 

Edit to add taken from another forum:

 

Originally Posted by Hillian1

My father was a coal merchant in the early eighties and the miners strike nearly took his company under. He made inquiries when there was NO coal left to buy or sell to Germany and guess what? They found they could import superior quality coal from the continent for half the price including transportation.

[CHIP 39]

for those that cant do the maths and understand why it had to be done theres some good reading here.

two 3rds of mining was gone in a 25 year period before thatcher came in,she plowed millions into what was left of it,imo she was one of the few leaders who had the balls and country at heart, id see her back tommorrow and whip this country into shape.

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/1497/thatcher_s_achievements_will_long_outlive_the_spite_of_sheffield_s_sons_and_daughters

[scothunter 12,609]

you can always find something nice to say about someone.once there dead lol

[CHIP 39]

 

 

We are still sat on loads of some of the best coal in the world and we ship shite from half way across the world. Closing the pits wasn't about the money.

is it worth the expense in digging it up when its all going green solar and all that the Gov have to keep in with the rest of the bollox that goes on

Keep in with the rest? Like Germany mate? We've must closed our last coal fired power station to comply with EU clean air legislation.. Germany have 5 massive and brand new ones coming on line..

 

We're told that we live in a time of energy crisis, yet we sit on enough of a substance that could power us for at least another third of a millennium. Not just that but the coal we have here is some of the cleanest burning coal in the whole world, especially the seams further west..

 

every one knows we have coal and that we can mine it but will the people pay for it ?quoteing some numbers By 1984 it cost £44 to mine a metric ton of British coal. America, Australia, and South Africa were selling it on the world market for £32 a metric ton.

Taxpayers were subsidising the mining industry to the tune of £1.3 billion annually. This figure doesn’t include the vast cost to taxpayer-funded industries such as steel and electricity which were obliged to buy British coal........

 

personally i dont see anything changing

[gonetoearth 5,144]

 

 

We are still sat on loads of some of the best coal in the world and we ship shite from half way across the world. Closing the pits wasn't about the money.

is it worth the expense in digging it up when its all going green solar and all that the Gov have to keep in with the rest of the bollox that goes on

Keep in with the rest? Like Germany mate? We've must closed our last coal fired power station to comply with EU clean air legislation.. Germany have 5 massive and brand new ones coming on line..

We're told that we live in a time of energy crisis, yet we sit on enough of a substance that could power us for at least another third of a millennium. Not just that but the coal we have here is some of the cleanest burning coal in the whole world, especially the seams further west..

. Would not waste you time malt these people have read books lol

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Where was Kinnock's type and his unions when Harold Wilson was in power?

Wilson the Labour MP prior to Thatcher closed 290 pits while he was in office why were the unions not going on strike when this was happening?

Thatcher closed 160 whilst she was in office. The closure of the coal mines had already begun and in much larger quantities than Thatcher but for some reason it's ignored...

Edit to add taken from another forum:

Originally Posted by Hillian1

My father was a coal merchant in the early eighties and the miners strike nearly took his company under. He made inquiries when there was NO coal left to buy or sell to Germany and guess what? They found they could import superior quality coal from the continent for half the price including transportation.

. Lol superior quality. Than anthrosite must be burning gold.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

 

 

 

We are still sat on loads of some of the best coal in the world and we ship shite from half way across the world. Closing the pits wasn't about the money.

 

is it worth the expense in digging it up when its all going green solar and all that the Gov have to keep in with the rest of the bollox that goes on

Keep in with the rest? Like Germany mate? We've must closed our last coal fired power station to comply with EU clean air legislation.. Germany have 5 massive and brand new ones coming on line..

We're told that we live in a time of energy crisis, yet we sit on enough of a substance that could power us for at least another third of a millennium. Not just that but the coal we have here is some of the cleanest burning coal in the whole world, especially the seams further west..

every one knows we have coal and that we can mine it but will the people pay for it ?quoteing some numbers By 1984 it cost £44 to mine a metric ton of British coal. America, Australia, and South Africa were selling it on the world market for £32 a metric ton.

Taxpayers were subsidising the mining industry to the tune of £1.3 billion annually. This figure doesnt include the vast cost to taxpayer-funded industries such as steel and electricity which were obliged to buy British coal........

 

personally i dont see anything changing

. We dont buy american austrialian or yarpy coal we in port columbian through liverpool docks sent all over the country by. Red diesel powered engines Lol owned by ill let the Educated reasearch who owns it oh and we turn a blind eye it seems to how its brought from the other side of the world Keep in line with green clean policy's in old bulk carriers. Ah well just as long as the working british man gets the blame for everything eh , to read half the. Posts on here You would think the were written by landed gentry lol. The could not beat us by the sword but thier. Taking us apart with a pen. And are own country men are helping them. Edited January 5, 2014 by gonetoearth

[WILF 47,110]

I keep hearing about this mythical "working man" ?........who is he?, what's makes him entitled to anything?

 

I'm a working man, have been all my life, never asked the government for jack shit in all that time and don't want anything but I certainly don't want my money used to prop up failing industries !!

[CHIP 39]

 

 

 

 

We are still sat on loads of some of the best coal in the world and we ship shite from half way across the world. Closing the pits wasn't about the money.

is it worth the expense in digging it up when its all going green solar and all that the Gov have to keep in with the rest of the bollox that goes on

Keep in with the rest? Like Germany mate? We've must closed our last coal fired power station to comply with EU clean air legislation.. Germany have 5 massive and brand new ones coming on line..

We're told that we live in a time of energy crisis, yet we sit on enough of a substance that could power us for at least another third of a millennium. Not just that but the coal we have here is some of the cleanest burning coal in the whole world, especially the seams further west..

every one knows we have coal and that we can mine it but will the people pay for it ?quoteing some numbers By 1984 it cost £44 to mine a metric ton of British coal. America, Australia, and South Africa were selling it on the world market for £32 a metric ton.

Taxpayers were subsidising the mining industry to the tune of £1.3 billion annually. This figure doesnt include the vast cost to taxpayer-funded industries such as steel and electricity which were obliged to buy British coal........

 

personally i dont see anything changing

. We dont buy american austrialian or yarpy coal we in port columbian through liverpool docks sent all over the country by. Red diesel powered engines Lol owned by ill let the Educated reasearch who owns it oh and we turn a blind eye it seems to how its brought from the other side of the world Keep in line with green clean policy's in old bulk carriers. Ah well just as long as the working british man gets the blame for everything eh , to read half the. Posts on here You would think the were written by landed gentry lol. The could not beat us by the sword but thier. Taking us apart with a pen. And are own country men are helping them.

 

i'l just assume you dissagree,i cant make head nor tale of that slobber.

[Malt 379]

 

Where was Kinnock's type and his unions when Harold Wilson was in power?

Wilson the Labour MP prior to Thatcher closed 290 pits while he was in office why were the unions not going on strike when this was happening?

Thatcher closed 160 whilst she was in office. The closure of the coal mines had already begun and in much larger quantities than Thatcher but for some reason it's ignored...

Edit to add taken from another forum:

Originally Posted by Hillian1

My father was a coal merchant in the early eighties and the miners strike nearly took his company under. He made inquiries when there was NO coal left to buy or sell to Germany and guess what? They found they could import superior quality coal from the continent for half the price including transportation.

. Lol superior quality. Than anthrosite must be burning gold.

 

Only two or three sites in the world produce coal of a higher quality than we've got here, Pennsylvania in the US is one and I think there are a few seams in Australia.. It's all to do with the purity, and the older the seam the more the coal has had the impurities squeezed out and it has a higher carbon content..

 

Shutting the mines and other industrial areas down was a method of population control. By taking them away the government ensured that massive numbers of civilians could no longer rally and pose a threat to the government. It's not just the 'working man' who has suffered as a result, it's all of us. IMO the unions should have stayed away from the politics and concentrated on looking after their workers rights. I know I've said it on here before, but it was the good old British class system that was at the core of the union battles. Post war, all you needed to have to walk into a management job was to have been to the correct school, you didn't have to have a clue about the job you were being hired to do. It was the 'do as you're told, peasant' attitude that gave the union leaders a stick to hit out with. Look at Germany, they have unions and they have never had the same sort of trouble as we have had. They crucially have no class system, Union members sit on the boards with the management and they work together to suit the interests of all involved.

[Nik_B 3,790]

Coal mining is probably viable again as the costs have risen so much they're even talking about opening new metal mines in the SE as well. What gets in the way now though is the greenies, nimbies and EU regulation.

 

The cost of extraction is always going to be the problem where you have cheap labour overseas and less regulation compared to here. As the cost of living and living standards rise else where it will become more likely over here.

[WILF 47,110]

To be honest as well, we are a geographical postage stamp we are that small so I would much rather they did f**k up another country than keep digging f***ing great holes all over what's left of our little bit of countryside.

Edited January 5, 2014 by WILF

[tatsblisters 9,869]

Where was Kinnock's type and his unions when Harold Wilson was in power?

 

Wilson the Labour MP prior to Thatcher closed 290 pits while he was in office why were the unions not going on strike when this was happening?

 

Thatcher closed 160 whilst she was in office. The closure of the coal mines had already begun and in much larger quantities than Thatcher but for some reason it's ignored...

 

Edit to add taken from another forum:

 

Originally Posted by Hillian1

My father was a coal merchant in the early eighties and the miners strike nearly took his company under. He made inquiries when there was NO coal left to buy or sell to Germany and guess what? They found they could import superior quality coal from the continent for half the price including transportation.

The pits that were closed under Wilson the men who worked at the pits were offerd jobs at other pits even if it did mean moving home and familys to another part of the country as a lot from scottish pits that closed ended up working at pits in s.yorks.Thatchers plan was to shut them with no back up plan to encourage other buisnises into these areas putting thousands of men on the dole who in their right mind would not put up a fight if you could see with your own eyes wat was happening.