trenchfoot 4,243 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 the guy that created the dogo done well enough, have a go its only your time that's used true, but he lived in a place where his stock could be tested on its intended quarry, I dont think there are many wolves in cornwall Quote Link to post
day worker 296 Posted January 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 I'm not saying I want or have any intention of trying to re create a breed! I was just interested in what it would take to bring a breed back to its very best(running dogs or terriers)! Quote Link to post
day worker 296 Posted January 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Or even bring back a breed that's completely died out! Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,707 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Most the countries ,where big game dogs were developed they had no qualms of culling surplus or substandard stock,could you do that? Plus when you have recreated a large hunting dog,what are you going to do with it, Quarry and space wise,it would be nice if someone could try with one of the lost terrier breeds like a Scottish one or the Manchester. 2 Quote Link to post
Chid 6,586 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Most the countries ,where big game dogs were developed they had no qualms of culling surplus or substandard stock,could you do that? Plus when you have recreated a large hunting dog,what are you going to do with it, Quarry and space wise,it would be nice if someone could try with one of the lost terrier breeds like a Scottish one or the Manchester. a member who posted on this topic wanted to try with a scottie, dont know if he ever did Quote Link to post
beast 1,884 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 i guess that two breeds which have been resurrected as workers in recent years would be the bedlington and the sealyham. i have read that some breeders took the best beddies they could find and these were their foundation stock, whwhile others outcrossed to lakelands etc. i dont know how the sealyham was recreated. i'm no terrier man and i dont know just how many working beddies or sealhams there are nowadays, or how good they are, perhaps somebody more knowledgeable than me could shed some light on this? Quote Link to post
perthshire keeper 1,239 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Most the countries ,where big game dogs were developed they had no qualms of culling surplus or substandard stock,could you do that? Plus when you have recreated a large hunting dog,what are you going to do with it, Quarry and space wise,it would be nice if someone could try with one of the lost terrier breeds like a Scottish one or the Manchester. a member who posted on this topic wanted to try with a scottie, dont know if he ever did ive often wondered what they would go like! Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted January 4, 2014 Report Share Posted January 4, 2014 Few men in these Isles have the foresight, time, patience, honesty and money to do this properly... Fewer still would make that many culls.... Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Few men in these Isles have the foresight, time, patience, honesty and money to do this properly... Fewer still would make that many culls.... True... Here in the British Isles,..we are a sensible race of folk,...we know what we need.... If a canine breed/type,..has been allowed to die out,.there is usually a fecking good reason for it... Improve upon what we already have ,..make them stronger, smarter, slicker,.."Let Sleeping dogs Lie " 1 Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 to breed something that looks like something else from history is the easy part, to then expect it to behave like its ancestors without hundreds or maybe thousands of years of nurturing and selective breeding is the impossible part Quote Link to post
lietome 138 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 The Aussies don't have special working breeds I'm sure lots of dogs come from pound and places over there. They get cross bred and I should imagine they cull what don't work so that's half the battle. Dare I mention the aluant word? Plummer re created them and started Plummer terrier strain and I'm sure he done a diffrent type bushing terrier aswell. So it can be done,if you really want ityou seem to have a thing about the alaunt so tell us more please as you comment on every post Quote Link to post
Hot Meat 3,109 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 The Aussies don't have special working breeds I'm sure lots of dogs come from pound and places over there. They get cross bred and I should imagine they cull what don't work so that's half the battle. Dare I mention the aluant word? Plummer re created them and started Plummer terrier strain and I'm sure he done a diffrent type bushing terrier aswell. So it can be done,if you really want ityou seem to have a thing about the alaunt so tell us more please as you comment on every post lol not the dogs I got a thing for. It's the clowns pumping pups out if them.. So didn't Plummer recreate them? Show me somewhere, anywhere were I have ever said anything bad about the dogs???? I'll make it easier for you, you can't as I ain't lol. I briefly knew the man that provided the mastiffs for plummers plan. So am I wrong? I'll repeat again just for you, i have nowt against them other than the fact a load a fuckwits own and are breeding them for no other reason than money...... Seems to be a few rumours flying around these boards about me and aluants lol come on spit it out folks???? What is it I'm meant to know or have seen? As iv stated more times than once iv only ever seen one and it wasn't even working. Tho any fool can see by the ads all over net and the litters being pumped out and pups in rescue centres. That they are In The wrong hands.....lol I await your comment lol Quote Link to post
lietome 138 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) The Aussies don't have special working breeds I'm sure lots of dogs come from pound and places over there. They get cross bred and I should imagine they cull what don't work so that's half the battle. Dare I mention the aluant word? Plummer re created them and started Plummer terrier strain and I'm sure he done a diffrent type bushing terrier aswell. So it can be done,if you really want ityou seem to have a thing about the alaunt so tell us more please as you comment on every postlol not the dogs I got a thing for. It's the clowns pumping pups out if them.. So didn't Plummer recreate them? Show me somewhere, anywhere were I have ever said anything bad about the dogs???? I'll make it easier for you, you can't as I ain't lol. I briefly knew the man that provided the mastiffs for plummers plan. So am I wrong? I'll repeat again just for you, i have nowt against them other than the fact a load a fuckwits own and are breeding them for no other reason than money......Seems to be a few rumours flying around these boards about me and aluants lol come on spit it out folks???? What is it I'm meant to know or have seen? As iv stated more times than once iv only ever seen one and it wasn't even working. Tho any fool can see by the ads all over net and the litters being pumped out and pups in rescue centres. That they are In The wrong hands.....lol I await your comment lol i agree ive bred 2 litters one a mistake thats in 8 years but admit studding my dog out to RM2008s friends twice,plummer only lived long enough to see the first generation ones as for the fuckwits i know some decent lads who own them work them believe what you see not what you hear Edited January 6, 2014 by lietome 1 Quote Link to post
Hot Meat 3,109 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 So there's not been numerous ads and pups handed into rescues for everybody to see? Lol Quote Link to post
lietome 138 Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 So there's not been numerous ads and pups handed into rescues for everybody to see? LolAs far as i know none of my pups ended up in a rescue centre pm RM he can tell you about a really good bitch and a whole litter of pups rescued by the sspca not mine just like loads of other types minshaws golly pie hancock every breed and whats funny about that lol lol not as ive said one planned litter one accident both litters of pup were reared well best of food socialised wormed and would say went to good homes as for making money lol i never covered my cost of rearing look up pups for this season see how many still have them sad thats dog men Quote Link to post
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