Recreating Breeds

[day worker 296]

Been having a think this afternoon which hurt a bit! How difficult would it be to recreate one of the now nearly useless breeds ie wolfhounds,borzoi or any other kc ruined breed come to think of it! I was just interested as to where or how you would start the breeding process?

[Chid 6,583]

Been having a think this afternoon which hurt a bit! How difficult would it be to recreate one of the now nearly useless breeds ie wolfhounds,borzoi or any other kc ruined breed come to think of it! I was just interested as to where or how you would start the breeding process?

with an outcross

[South hams hunter 8,926]

Itll just be an expensive piss in the wind

[day worker 296]

And then picking the dogs that most resemble what you want?

[day worker 296]

Itll just be an expensive piss in the wind

why do you say that? Somebody bred the breeds In The first place so it is possible!

[Sam H 80]

Think i saw some Saluki x Borzoi pups on pre-loved the other day. Pay your £300 notes and take the chance.

[bird 9,969]

well in Oz on few of there hunting sites, they use breeds that over here are feckin waste of time here (irish wolfhounds,Great Danes,bullmastiffs). feck knowes what lines they got over there,because them 3 breeds here are just show dogs here.Ive bred Bullmastiffs in the 80s, and the breed even then ,wasnt like the true bullmastiff the keeper night dog.Adog of about 90lb fast+agile pull a bloke down easy, the above breeds are very unhealthy and not long lived. unless the ped dogs are proper working dogs, prob you got use lurcher to lurcher what been used today

[BIGLURKS 874]

Been having a think this afternoon which hurt a bit! How difficult would it be to recreate one of the now nearly useless breeds ie wolfhounds,borzoi or any other kc ruined breed come to think of it! I was just interested as to where or how you would start the breeding process?

why is it you think think the borzoi are useless there still plenty of lines and good dogs still being run in Russia why do you think they need recreated and wolfhounds just speak for them selfs they were breed too hunt wolfs and if iam thinking right is the wolfhound not a make up of other dogs any way cos of the lack of dogs in the 19th century or something

[Hot Meat 3,109]

The Aussies don't have special working breeds I'm sure lots of dogs come from pound and places over there. They get cross bred and I should imagine they cull what don't work so that's half the battle. Dare I mention the aluant word? Plummer re created them and started Plummer terrier strain and I'm sure he done a diffrent type bushing terrier aswell. So it can be done,if you really want it

Edited January 3, 2014 by Hot Meat

[trenchfoot 4,243]

Dogs started down the slippery road when they went from being a type, to becoming a breed. Outward physical characteristics dominate what defines a breed these days rather than its outright ability to do the job it was intended to do. Breed close, test hard, cull honestly and be prepared for a bumpy ride! But if your out to create a modern functional wolfhound type dog, I'll bet a pound toa pinch of sh#t you'll end up with something that looks like a US stag, or Aussie stag type dog

Edited January 3, 2014 by trenchfoot

[beast 1,884]

you would have two choices. first, you could outcross to a similar but still useful breed and select from the pups any which were handy and go on from there, but you would be better off to just use the other breed in the first place. secondly, get the most useful specimens you can from the breed you wish to recreate and breed from them, choose the best pups and breed from them and so on, but the chances of getting anything really good would be slim. i think trying to resurrect a breed would be expensive, time consuming and probably fruitless in the long run as nobody has the facilities to do so or would live long enough! and it is far easier to breed qualities out, than to breed them in!true the breeds were created in the first place but over the course of hundreds of years, not one man's lifetime, and tested in the true judgement of proper hard work.

 

if you bred from two or more useful working breeds to try to make something similar to and old breed then you could potentially do (say by breeding greyhound to pit to make an alaunt- its not the true old alaunt as the alaunt genes are extinct, but it looks like one, works like one so may as well be one!)

 

remmember too that creating something that LOOKS like it should would be only a small part of the battle, as you would need all the other physical and mental properties too

[Moorside 642]

I have to ask why you would want to re create a type of hunting dog from a bygone era, at the end of the day stag hounds etc are fine in Australia or usa there laws and sheer size of the country means hunting basically unhindered is relatively easy. Here youve got so many restrictions how many of these animals would end up being tested to the full.

[bird 9,969]

I have to ask why you would want to re create a type of hunting dog from a bygone era, at the end of the day stag hounds etc are fine in Australia or usa there laws and sheer size of the country means hunting basically unhindered is relatively easy. Here youve got so many restrictions how many of these animals would end up being tested to the full.

fair point that, with this ban thats here thats never going away,and size of our country a dog similar in size to stag in the usa+Oz , would never used to it full potential here.The dogs we got now that are used day+night are doing the job, so why bother anyway

[Bosun11 537]

Don't see the point in putting all that time, money and effort into re-creating breeds, unless its for coin.

 

From a work point of view the 'went' for a reason, no point dragging 'em back.

 

That time and money would be far better spent improving what we have. Sick to the same just make it better....!!

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

the guy that created the dogo done well enough, have a go its only your time that's used