Are People Getting Ruder?

[Ideation 8,216]

So now it's the fault of the immigrants that the Brits act like c**ts, because the immigrants have made them feel like there is no reason to be nice people???? Really . . . . that sounds like pretty desperate logic to me.

 

Now I'm not saying that all immigrants are blameless and all white folk are rude. What I'm saying is . . .

 

I work in a town which has a large mix of different races, cultures and religions. . . . it also suffers from high crime, low employment and high drug use etc. . . .

 

Whilst going about my day to day work, which happens to be working with young offenders, messed up families, drug addicts, violent criminals etc etc etc. . . . both within the education system and the community. . . . I have noticed that I deal with just as many white brits as I do foreign folk. . . . and in fact, many of the 'foreigners' that I work with who are causing problems, are in fact very similar to the indigenous locals, in fact, much of their negative behaviour can be seen to be modelled upon what the locals were doing. . ..

 

If I think about the folk who have given me abuse in the street, threatened me at work, tried to attack me, or others etc. . . or of those I am working with who have done some pretty bad stuff to other people . the majority of them are white, with the remainder mostly being Pakistani.

 

There is no value placed upon education, and there is no value placed upon working and contributing to society. Most of the (white) kids I speak to, intend to become drug dealers. . . . . and when I speak to young girls and ask them what's important in a partner, it's always that they are hard, have money, and are seen as cool. . . . . . not that they are moral, nice, loyal honest etc. . . .

 

I think a lot of the blame can be laid at the general trend in the world toward isolationism and selfishness. much of that, probably related to a governments desire to divide it's people, and lay the blame for its own governmental faults at the feet of others in society, the old 'divide and conquer'. The benefit system has a part as well.

 

But also priorities have changed, manners and morals are now worth shit. It's all about money and possessions. . . .and respect and reputation . . . .

 

I'm not saying that mass immigration has nowt to do with it, of course it has. But it's far too simple and close minded a view to blame that entirely, and to be honest, it's a damn good way to keep people from seeing the truth. . . . don't look at yourselfs or the government. . . . just blame it on the pakis down the road. . . . .

[Lab 10,979]

So now it's the fault of the immigrants that the Brits act like c**ts, because the immigrants have made them feel like there is no reason to be nice people???? Really . . . . that sounds like pretty desperate logic to me.

 

Now I'm not saying that all immigrants are blameless and all white folk are rude. What I'm saying is . . .

 

I work in a town which has a large mix of different races, cultures and religions. . . . it also suffers from high crime, low employment and high drug use etc. . . .

 

Whilst going about my day to day work, which happens to be working with young offenders, messed up families, drug addicts, violent criminals etc etc etc. . . . both within the education system and the community. . . . I have noticed that I deal with just as many white brits as I do foreign folk. . . . and in fact, many of the 'foreigners' that I work with who are causing problems, are in fact very similar to the indigenous locals, in fact, much of their negative behaviour can be seen to be modelled upon what the locals were doing. . ..

 

If I think about the folk who have given me abuse in the street, threatened me at work, tried to attack me, or others etc. . . or of those I am working with who have done some pretty bad stuff to other people . the majority of them are white, with the remainder mostly being Pakistani.

 

There is no value placed upon education, and there is no value placed upon working and contributing to society. Most of the (white) kids I speak to, intend to become drug dealers. . . . . and when I speak to young girls and ask them what's important in a partner, it's always that they are hard, have money, and are seen as cool. . . . . . not that they are moral, nice, loyal honest etc. . . .

 

I think a lot of the blame can be laid at the general trend in the world toward isolationism and selfishness. much of that, probably related to a governments desire to divide it's people, and lay the blame for its own governmental faults at the feet of others in society, the old 'divide and conquer'. The benefit system has a part as well.

 

But also priorities have changed, manners and morals are now worth shit. It's all about money and possessions. . . .and respect and reputation . . . .

 

I'm not saying that mass immigration has nowt to do with it, of course it has. But it's far too simple and close minded a view to blame that entirely, and to be honest, it's a damn good way to keep people from seeing the truth. . . . don't look at yourselfs or the government. . . . just blame it on the pakis down the road. . . . .

So I think it's fair to say if we are a country full of little fannies then why open the door to potentially more wee pricks??

[sikastag_1 689]

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Edited August 14, 2021 by sikastag_1

[Ideation 8,216]

That's another question which I wonder to . . . . .

 

Although perhaps a one in one out policy is needed. Forget race.

 

We have a c**t-o-meter.

 

When someone wants in. . . . if they score low on the c**t-o-meter. . . . . we let them in and boot out someone who has a high score. . . and so on. . . .

 

Until we can proudly say that as a nation we all fall around 1-3 on good ol' jesus's c**t-o-meter. . . .

 

Sounds good to me.

 

What really grates my gears is that some folk would rather have a nasty b*****d living next door who was white and british, than a real nice family that are foreign. I just take folk as I find them, regardless. . . . .

[forest of dean redneck 11,738]

I often wondered this,is it alcohol more readily attainable,shite breeding shite,children having children,or just a loss of morals and respect,

I also wonder if the lax attitude towards bring children up is another factor.and yes I do mean the smacking ban .

I can be the biggest racist going at times,BUT I do not feel that immigrants or other ethnic groups are to blame.

 

I also wonder if the media is too blame,

Films and music videos or video games.

Children and some young adults born since the late nineties/millenium seem to have trouble seperating reality with fiction.in real life.

[Ideation 8,216]

Grant - to be honest mate, nearly all of the 'foreigners' who I work with were born here, maybe 1st - 3rd generation.

 

Now what is REALLY interesting is that most of them, whilst they may be drug dealing, gang fighting, little f**k wits. . . . their parents (the actual immigrants, or the 1st gen born here) are really nice, moral people, who have no idea of the sins of their children. . . and when they find out its big big trouble and little achmed the drug dealer shits it as momma beats f**k out of him.

 

In comparison to the white kids I deal with. . . . . whos parents are often as bad. . . . .and grand parents to. . .

 

And when I ask them foreign kids why they don't be like their parents. . . . it's because they took one look around them growing up and thought. . . . .f**k working on a kebab shop.. . . . . . I want to sell drugs like the white folk do, get pissed in town, fight people and f**k girls. . . . I want to live the British dream.

 

As for them milking us dry. . . . . maybe I'm wrong, but in my area, I have yet to meet a white person who can tell me what job they were doing that was taken from them. . . . . . lots of moaning happens but I see very little evidence. . . . they all work in cornor shops or takeaways here. . . . . or drive taxis. . . . I'm not sure how many white run kebab shops closed down when they arrived???

[Ideation 8,216]

FOD - you've hit the nail on the head. Drugs and alcohol are everywhere. . . . the kids are wired all the time.

 

And aye. . . . kids having kids. . . . . with no education.

 

Just like idiots bringing up dogs that then bite people!

[Nik_B 3,790]

I think so.

 

People not teaching their kids to let older folk past before themselves for example...that's almost completely gone.

 

The other week I was going shooting and stopped in at a service station. As I walked to the entrance these two 19 year girls were walking towards me and as I opened the door (for myself) they just walked right through the door leaving me holding it open for them....the second one saw the look on my face and hastily said thanks but if I was letting someone go before me I'd say something cheeky cows. This kind of stuff seems to happen all the time now.

[forest of dean redneck 11,738]

I often get shocked looks as if a lady or old persons walking behind me into shop,I will stay and hold the door open,same with a lady struggling with a pushchair,

I've also helped a lady up the steps at a lidl carpark as she was struggling to walk backwards up them ,hauling the kid and pushchair/shopping bags up.

[sikastag_1 689]

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Edited August 14, 2021 by sikastag_1

[oneredtrim 148]

It would be fair to say the drinking culture amongst the white lots changed on these isles once foriegn travel become halfway affordable, still half ten last orders on a sunday mid '70's..the lots that had made it abroad were still stuck on that body clock regardless if you could drink when you wanted (impressionables sometimes mistake a wrong lot for the latest must have resulting in a new found cult/fashion-sometimes it's simply that simple), other foriegn visitors were still sober, sometimes (a lot) drinking with thier children (wine/meal).

[gnasher16 30,476]

Apart from whats already been mentioned as regards foreigners negative influence on societies......in my opinion the internet is also a breeding ground for poor manners and people becoming " ruder " in general..................as we all see even on this forum on a daily basis.......its easy to be a c**t to somebody you will never have to stand in front of.......i would imagine that carries itself over into the real world to some extent.

Edited December 30, 2013 by gnasher16

[steve66 3,562]

Think in this day and age , its dog eat dog and everyone is out for themselves , manners and politeness are seen as being weak

Where i work alot of the east euros are sound the trouble and the back stabbing sadly tends to come from the English especially the young uns

[Astanley 11,580]

Apart from whats already been mentioned as regards foreigners negative influence on societies......in my opinion the internet is also a breeding ground for poor manners and people becoming " ruder " in general..................as we all see even on this forum on a daily basis.......its easy to be a c**t to somebody you will never have to stand in front of.......i would imagine that carries itself over into the real world to some extent.

Anonymity , makes some people fkin monsters , I cant believe that some of the belligerent twats on here act like that in real life , even if its talking to a stranger on the web that's no reason to loose your manners .

[NickF 50]

Too crowded, when folk were polite, there was far fewer people. Now we are seeing the kids raised by the chavs of the early 90's who are as idle as their single mums (not everyone just the chavs) heading into a very busy crowded country.

 

Far too many pressure groups that get listened to by weak politicians and social leaders getting their way

 

Also, the end of the pubs as community centers. No more pubs, just bars selling booze of every colour that doesnt taste like booze so its easy to drink.

 

Break down in community means no respect for the community.

 

Yes we are ruder as a nation but im determined to keep my end up and my 3 young sons too.