AXUM 255 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 thought was interesting http://www.the-tls.co.uk/tls/public/article1333555.ece http://www.amazon.com/Sorry-English-Manners-Henry-Hitchings/dp/0374266751/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1388400957&sr=1-1&keywords=Henry+Hitchings+SORRY%21+The+English+and+their+manners Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moll. 1,770 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 I've been discussing this a lot recently Axum, a while ago about the current need for people to show underwear above their trousers. I was always taught to hide visible knicker lines never mind the knickers themselves, and if you wore a top where you could see your bra straps then you wore a strapless bra. But what has highlighted it even more for me recently is the huge numbers of men i see standing at the side of the road in full view urinating. There are hedgerows, gates, fields all around yet they cannot be bothered to take a few steps in either direction or even stand behind their cars. It's the current attitude of people who 'cant be bothered' and only thinking about themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Did you now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 There's another book called Watching the English, which is sometimes very funny, and very true, but times change things a lot, and people are definitely getting 'ruder' as you put it. There is no respect any more, especially in large towns and cities. I put this down to several things: the so-called multi-cultural society we live in, where a large percentage of the population in cities know nothing of traditional British manners. Also, the fact that so many people are just materialistic, with self-centred attitudes and a 'must have it now' attitude towards what they want. There's probably loads of reasons for the change in society's attitudes, but that's just two that I can think of. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff Ray 185 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 NO THEY ARE NOT; now b***** off Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 There's another book called Watching the English, which is sometimes very funny, and very true, but times change things a lot, and people are definitely getting 'ruder' as you put it. There is no respect any more, especially in large towns and cities. I put this down to several things: the so-called multi-cultural society we live in, where a large percentage of the population in cities know nothing of traditional British manners. Also, the fact that so many people are just materialistic, with self-centred attitudes and a 'must have it now' attitude towards what they want. There's probably loads of reasons for the change in society's attitudes, but that's just two that I can think of. people without standards are far easier to control and manipulate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 That book is an interesting read. . . . One thing I'd disagree with is that multi culturalism has much to do with it. . . . as if all British folk have an in built value system which dictates their behaviour, and that it is only the outsiders who do not posses this 'British' code of behaviour. . . . that act rudely. Well, pretty much all of the idiots I see acting badly are white, British folk. . . . natives of the U.K. . . . A lot of what I can see is just a growing selfishness, why should I care about others? Why should I worry about how my actions effect others? Etc. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 I know what you mean Ideation: the English have a horrible reputation abroad, as well as at home: the drinking yourself senseless ethos that prevails nowadays is predominantly white and British. But WHY did it come about? That is the real question. I may not be right in saying this, but I get the general feeling that the British white natives, the ones that cause trouble, have nothing to feel proud of any more. Or is it just a case of a once great culture coming to its natural end? Maybe pushed faster into oblivion by the fact that what once formed the basis of our culture has been lost in the new 'global' society? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,580 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 I equate good manners with consideration for others , and I,m seeing less and less of it nowadays . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,481 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 That book is an interesting read. . . . One thing I'd disagree with is that multi culturalism has much to do with it. . . . as if all British folk have an in built value system which dictates their behaviour, and that it is only the outsiders who do not posses this 'British' code of behaviour. . . . that act rudely. Well, pretty much all of the idiots I see acting badly are white, British folk. . . . natives of the U.K. . . . A lot of what I can see is just a growing selfishness, why should I care about others? Why should I worry about how my actions effect others? Etc. Would you not find it coincidental though that this behaviour of white Brits has only started showing itself within recent years.........since mass immigration to these shores ? Far as im aware our British grand mothers and fathers didnt show this sort of behaviour.....infact quite the opposite we are always being told what good morals and principals the older generation had here in Britain. Stands to reason that poor values of outsiders will have a negative effect on our own. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bracken boy 584 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 For sure they are. Total no respect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 That book is an interesting read. . . . One thing I'd disagree with is that multi culturalism has much to do with it. . . . as if all British folk have an in built value system which dictates their behaviour, and that it is only the outsiders who do not posses this 'British' code of behaviour. . . . that act rudely. Well, pretty much all of the idiots I see acting badly are white, British folk. . . . natives of the U.K. . . . A lot of what I can see is just a growing selfishness, why should I care about others? Why should I worry about how my actions effect others? Etc. You've said that a few times now mate. Just out of interest what's the % of British people to other races around there? I know where I live I never hear of Muslims running amok and causing havoc...that's cause there's hardly any. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,561 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Ideation open your eyes and visit inner cities, maybe in the valleys their isn't that many ethnic minorities Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moll. 1,770 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 It could be to do with the fact everything is so easily obtained now. People do not have to work together, support each other to get what they need. People have too many 'rights' now. If you did something wrong as a kid, not only would you get hell from your parents, you would from half the street. I can remember getting a good hiding from an old man when he caught me playing knocky door danger. I NEVER played it again afterwards...lesson learned Nowadays he would probably have the police at his door. And charged with assaulting a child. The only direct contact i really ever had with people from other races was when i visited my sister in London over several years. She was a nurse at St Barts for 20yrs, and always said most of the other races, had impeccable manners and cleanliness compared to the British. And i always found it to be the same. Perhaps it is not directly because foreign people are moving here, but because other races are also losing manners and ideals within their own culture as we are here...or perhaps because they are living alongside, going to school with Brits who have none? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tandors 888 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Cultural marxism in action. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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