Running The Beam

[C Hall 552]

Long slips could make a good advert for specsavers

[Bosun11 537]

Long slips could make a good advert for specsavers

In my case, these days, deffo..!!

[oddser 79]

I now understand why there is so many dogs for sale

[J Darcy 5,871]

Darcy yards is no where near a big slip I have witnessed 300 yard plus slips many many times both night and day we have a mutal friend that has also seen it ask him about a slip with my old bitch on a fox before the ban that we paced out at 330 yards from slip to where the fox stood ...imo holding a dog back until the quarry (rabbits ) have the advantage lets you know what kind of dog you have on the end of your slip .....a dog that drops stuff it has no right to even get near is a decent animal imo

Well, It was only my opinion.....

I have to say that i've personally never seen anyone slip on a rabbit at plus yards at night. And I've spent my whole life lamping. Other critters are a different matter, but even with those yards is still a long slip and before long they will be out of the beam if they don't run your way.

 

That said, it's only lamping and, in all honesty, I don't judge my dog (s) on what they do at night, it's daytime where they are graded. But each to their own and good hunting.

[MIK 4,756]

_{there are various ways of testing your dog and holding a dog back or slipping it at quarry at very long slips and I mean slips where you can just make out the quarry at the end of the beam ....where ive seen a dog realy have to work jumping fences ,dykes burns and often covering 2 or 3 fields and connecting out of the beam I wouldn't say you have a fast dog but a dog that has drive and determination to see the job through ....}

[bird 9,872]

 

Darcy yards is no where near a big slip I have witnessed 300 yard plus slips many many times both night and day we have a mutal friend that has also seen it ask him about a slip with my old bitch on a fox before the ban that we paced out at 330 yards from slip to where the fox stood ...imo holding a dog back until the quarry (rabbits ) have the advantage lets you know what kind of dog you have on the end of your slip .....a dog that drops stuff it has no right to even get near is a decent animal imo

Well, It was only my opinion.....

I have to say that i've personally never seen anyone slip on a rabbit at plus yards at night. And I've spent my whole life lamping. Other critters are a different matter, but even with those yards is still a long slip and before long they will be out of the beam if they don't run your way.

 

That said, it's only lamping and, in all honesty, I don't judge my dog (s) on what they do at night, it's daytime where they are graded. But each to their own and good hunting.

 

 

 

ive done long slips over 80yds many times, as alot of times lamp shy rabbits or what ever quarry your after will piss off as soon as beam its them, so keeping the beam low as possible all helps.But its a gamble really ,because you can loose the rabbit or what ever, if it dont run your way back up the beam.But it is as been said a real Buzz when it does work, ive seen it alot of times pre ban with lamp shy foxes. You been calling and no way will the buggers move towards you, so leave it a while get bit closer still long slip and try the dog, most times the fox wont play ball and as norm no fox. but now+then the dog gets a good chance, my old colliex grey Blaze got few like this.As by me foxes were shot to feck with shoots both sides of me, so very lamp shy foxes. long slips just about in the beam was the only way with a dog

[Ocset 91]

Mik I' am all for testing dogs and seeing what they are made of but long slips prove nothing other than a dog will run down the beam,

 

which IMO any decent lamp dog should do from an early age

 

There is also a massive difference between giving a dog a long slip on something sitting/standing still and an animal on the move.

That's not right. A dog that'll run 300 yards before it even gets near its quarry and then run that down and catch it, isn't just an animal that runs down the beam. There's dogs out there that would struggle to run 300 yards and catch.

 

If you're 300 yards away and your quarry is away and running then there's something wrong with your fieldcraft. You need to get an asthma pump or some slippers! If it's walking or standing, it makes no difference, in fact a walking animal will stop and look at the approaching dog more often than not.

 

100 yards is not a long slip and not much of a test. If you've got a running dog that you don't let run, then maybe you'd be better off with a different type of dog.

[cookiemonsterandmerlin 145]

800 M is along way

[C Hall 552]

 

Mik I' am all for testing dogs and seeing what they are made of but long slips prove nothing other than a dog will run down the beam,

 

which IMO any decent lamp dog should do from an early age

 

There is also a massive difference between giving a dog a long slip on something sitting/standing still and an animal on the move.

That's not right. A dog that'll run 300 yards before it even gets near its quarry and then run that down and catch it, isn't just an animal that runs down the beam. There's dogs out there that would struggle to run 300 yards and catch.

 

If you're 300 yards away and your quarry is away and running then there's something wrong with your fieldcraft. You need to get an asthma pump or some slippers! If it's walking or standing, it makes no difference, in fact a walking animal will stop and look at the approaching dog more often than not.

 

100 yards is not a long slip and not much of a test. If you've got a running dog that you don't let run, then maybe you'd be better off with a different type of dog.

 

 

" there are dogs that would struggle to run 300 yards and catch " Yes maybe a yorkshire terrier would but not a dog what is called a running dog.

 

" there is something wrong with your fieldcraft if the quarry is up and running " I wasn't aware that quarry should stand still if there that far out

 

" 100 yard slip not a long slip or much of a test " please enlighten me what is a long slip and a test

 

" If you've got a running dog that you don't let run, then maybe you'd be better off with a different type of dog " thanks for the advice

Edited December 31, 2013 by C Hall

[tjones3862 3,423]

any way,, this cud go on for ever,,,how about some good old rabbits post,s and pics up on the site,,of rabbits only,,,,i do like to here peoples trips out,,,and the pic s of the dogs and catch get right in the mood for a trip out,,,

[Ocset 91]

 

Darcy yards is no where near a big slip I have witnessed 300 yard plus slips many many times both night and day we have a mutal friend that has also seen it ask him about a slip with my old bitch on a fox before the ban that we paced out at 330 yards from slip to where the fox stood ...imo holding a dog back until the quarry (rabbits ) have the advantage lets you know what kind of dog you have on the end of your slip .....a dog that drops stuff it has no right to even get near is a decent animal imo

Well, It was only my opinion.....

I have to say that i've personally never seen anyone slip on a rabbit at plus yards at night. And I've spent my whole life lamping. Other critters are a different matter, but even with those yards is still a long slip and before long they will be out of the beam if they don't run your way.

 

That said, it's only lamping and, in all honesty, I don't judge my dog (s) on what they do at night, it's daytime where they are graded. But each to their own and good hunting.

 

Surely you've hunted all over the country and possibly in other countries too. In certain places < yard slips are hard to come by. A dog that can't cover ground quickly and get on terms with it's quarry at distances over 150 yards isn't for me. Daytime slips can be even longer due to the nature of the ground. The land we were on on Sunday, we could see for at least 2 miles in every direction. Only small copses and hedgerows offered any cover.

[C Hall 552]

Oscet do you run deerhound cross by anychance?

[Ocset 91]

 

 

Mik I' am all for testing dogs and seeing what they are made of but long slips prove nothing other than a dog will run down the beam,

 

which IMO any decent lamp dog should do from an early age

 

There is also a massive difference between giving a dog a long slip on something sitting/standing still and an animal on the move.

That's not right. A dog that'll run 300 yards before it even gets near its quarry and then run that down and catch it, isn't just an animal that runs down the beam. There's dogs out there that would struggle to run 300 yards and catch.

 

If you're 300 yards away and your quarry is away and running then there's something wrong with your fieldcraft. You need to get an asthma pump or some slippers! If it's walking or standing, it makes no difference, in fact a walking animal will stop and look at the approaching dog more often than not.

 

100 yards is not a long slip and not much of a test. If you've got a running dog that you don't let run, then maybe you'd be better off with a different type of dog.

 

" there are dogs that would struggle to run 300 yards and catch " Yes maybe a yorkshire terrier would but not a dog what is called a running dog.

 

" there is something wrong with your fieldcraft if the quarry is up and running " I wasn't aware that quarry should stand still if there that far out

 

" 100 yard slip not a long slip or much of a test " please enlighten me what is a long slip and a test

 

" If you've got a running dog that you don't let run, then maybe you'd be better off with a different type of dog " thanks for the advice

 

" there are dogs that would struggle to run 300 yards and catch " Yes maybe a yorkshire terrier would but not a dog what is called a running dog.

 

There's small rabbiting dogs that can't run much further than this and heavyset dogs that struggle too. Have you seen many different dogs work?

 

" there is something wrong with your fieldcraft if the quarry is up and running " I wasn't aware that quarry should stand still if there that far out

 

It's obvious that you're not aware of much but my point stands, quarry is only running away from you if it knows that you're there. If you are scaring stuff away when you get within 300 yards of it then you shouldn't be ouit in the field. Walking or standing makes no difference to whether or not you should slip.

 

" 100 yard slip not a long slip or much of a test " please enlighten me what is a long slip and a test

 

What dogs do you run? (For fear of you contradicting yourself I hope that you say a Yorshire Terrier!!) You think that 100 yards is a test and a long slip. it may be for your dog but it's not for a running dog.

 

" If you've got a running dog that you don't let run, then maybe you'd be better off with a different type of dog " thanks for the advice

 

No problem, happy to help, however I fear that you'll take more heed of Google or a book from your fieldsports library.

Edited December 31, 2013 by Ocset

[C Hall 552]

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Edited December 31, 2013 by C Hall

[cookiemonsterandmerlin 145]

I think the main thing is to enjoy what you do be it 10 yards or 300 yards