Mag Collars

[DEERMAN 1,020]

Truth is no one in this discussion is qualified or an expert in this subject ,all you can go on is your own thoughts after using one ,i have and i think it works ,good enough for me

[paulus 26]

Truth is no one in this discussion is qualified or an expert in this subject ,all you can go on is your own thoughts after using one ,i have and i think it works ,good enough for me

i can see the pulsed electromagnet being beneficial as it has credibility as research has proved but magnetic collars and bands are a different thing

[dirty twister 31]

Truth is no one in this discussion is qualified or an expert in this subject ,all you can go on is your own thoughts after using one ,i have and i think it works ,good enough for me

Spot on pal

[sandymere 8,263]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsed_electromagnetic_field_therapy

Lol, big difference from the machines that are being studied and a magic collar, bit like saying a bit of willow bark may contain some aspirin therefore it will cure a broken arm. The stuff you’re promoting is not powerful enough to have any effect any more than a pair of binoculars compared to a CT scanner, most have fields that cannot even penetrate the skin. This is about mag collars and the like so let’s not start moving the goal posts, these are the sorts of things that produce a fields similar to the ones studied in the research I posted not some powerful magnetic field way beyond anything available or affordable to the public. So I ask again if these minor fields work why aren’t they available in every doctors or hospital?????

[mushroom 13,179]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsed_electromagnetic_field_therapy

Lol, big difference from the machines that are being studied and a magic collar, bit like saying a bit of willow bark may contain some aspirin therefore it will cure a broken arm. The stuff you’re promoting is not powerful enough to have any effect any more than a pair of binoculars compared to a CT scanner, most have fields that cannot even penetrate the skin. This is about mag collars and the like so let’s not start moving the goal posts, these are the sorts of things that produce a fields similar to the ones studied in the research I posted not some powerful magnetic field way beyond anything available or affordable to the public. So I ask again if these minor fields work why aren’t they available in every doctors or hospital?????

 

They are in Scotland, they feckers get everything :laugh:

 

 

This is like arguing what the shade of grey an elephants arse is.. Everybody has an opinion based on their own experince.

 

Trying your dammed hardest to discourage them just seems weird dude

[paulus 26]

money saving tip of the day. power lines emit an electro magnetic pulse the same with mobile phone masts so it you have one close you could possibly save yourself a fortune although wasn't there some fears that they caused cancer or some other bad shit confused

[Giro 2,648]

So is a collar as good as the box ??

[sandymere 8,263]

Truth is no one in this discussion is qualified or an expert in this subject ,all you can go on is your own thoughts after using one ,i have and i think it works ,good enough for me

 

therefore we seek the thoughts of experts, think I've linked to a few!

Ps do you know all our qualifications re health etc???

[dirty twister 31]

Sandy mere you always 'rubbish' mag boxes as well , on previous threads you have

Called them "magic boxes" After reading so what's link why have the FDA in the USA approved pulsed electro magnetic

Field therapy machines for use in human medicine then if it doesn't work

[sandymere 8,263]

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsed_electromagnetic_field_therapy

Lol, big difference from the machines that are being studied and a magic collar, bit like saying a bit of willow bark may contain some aspirin therefore it will cure a broken arm. The stuff you’re promoting is not powerful enough to have any effect any more than a pair of binoculars compared to a CT scanner, most have fields that cannot even penetrate the skin. This is about mag collars and the like so let’s not start moving the goal posts, these are the sorts of things that produce a fields similar to the ones studied in the research I posted not some powerful magnetic field way beyond anything available or affordable to the public. So I ask again if these minor fields work why aren’t they available in every doctors or hospital?????

 

They are in Scotland, they feckers get everything :laugh:

 

 

This is like arguing what the shade of grey an elephants arse is.. Everybody has an opinion based on their own experince.

 

Trying your dammed hardest to discourage them just seems weird dude

 

I find it amusing to see how far people will go to avoid cognitive dissonance.

 

In truth I know very well I can't persuade the true believer but I may well put off a few from getting caught by the quacks and their magic bracelets, homeopathy sugar pills, herby types etc. I especially hate those who sell such twadle as they know full well what they do, so I enjoy their discomfort at my posts. One such was selling sugar pills for bitches that were having trouble whelping. Imagine you realise the bitch is having trouble passing a pup and you have a choice, get advice from a vet etc or give a sugar pill and wait??? I still have the emails from this advertising standards association about how the company tried to fight the case, or at least send "evidence" of it being legit". They failed and withdrew the product. But to sell such stuff in the first place then try to defend it!! Beggars belief, there’s some wrong uns out their so I have a little go back, places like science based medicine do it on a much bigger way but we all do our bit.

But again I find people amusing plus it makes me find out about things which adds interest.

Edited January 2, 2014 by sandymere

[sandymere 8,263]

Sandy mere you always 'rubbish' mag boxes as well , on previous threads you have

Called them "magic boxes" After reading so what's link why have the FDA in the USA approved pulsed electro magnetic

Field therapy machines for use in human medicine then if it doesn't work

As said the magic boxes and what is being studied is a bit like comparing a ford Cortina to the space shuttle, magnets aren’t all the same!!!! If they were they would be used in hospitals!!!!! how many times most it be saidlololol.

[sowhat 1,572]

So is a collar as good as the box ??

No,but its still helps,I use the box every day on all my dogs, the fookers are queuing up to get their arses in it ,I kid you not.

Anyone thinking to buy a second hand one make sure to take a magnet with you, put the setting on number 5 with the machine switched on and hold the magnet about1/8" above the floor & you should be able to feel a strong pulsation.

[jim. 28]

This topic got me really interested so I thought I would look at some of the journals supporting the use of these magnetic therapies and offer my opinion! I have no experience of using a mag box or any of the bio flow collars but I do have a degree Bsc in Animal Science and can make some sense of the research thats out there.

 

The two main journals which are peer reviewed so you can count them as a credible source of information are

 

http://www.complementarytherapiesinmedicine.com/article/S0965-2299(09)00056-9/abstract

 

http://www.bioflow.co.uk/pdfs/BMJ_Magnetic_Bracelets.pdf which I'm sure you've come across anyway.

 

The first study states that from their experiment that they are generally ineffective for managing pain however the second study suggests that pain can be decreased wearing a magnetic bracelet. In the second study though it is really important that they can not make a claim as to whether its a placebo or a direct result. But what I think is personally important is that there can be no adverse affects so why not give it a try? There is very little research (from credible sources) on this kind of therapy so I think everyone should treat what they do find with caution. But again if it is working for peoples dogs and they are genuinely seeing an improvement then why knock it? It could be in years to come that research will be published that does support the use of magnetic therapies.

 

I was just looking at this website http://www.porta-mag.com/4.html and I'm guessing these are the mag boxes everyone refers to? There is a lot of links to studies on their site however there all over 10 years old which isn't really credible. Now I've never used a mag box before but like you guys say people swear by it so I was wondering how the box actually works? I know it produces a magnetic field but does it emit heat or anything? Just thinking that could be a possible reason as to why dogs love going in them so much as opposed to the magnetic healing properties. Do correct me though because I have no experience of using one and I'm just thinking outside the box! (excuse the pun!)

 

Cheers,

 

Jim

[dirty twister 31]

 

Sandy mere you always 'rubbish' mag boxes as well , on previous threads you have

Called them "magic boxes" After reading so what's link why have the FDA in the USA approved pulsed electro magnetic

Field therapy machines for use in human medicine then if it doesn't work

As said the magic boxes and what is being studied is a bit like comparing a ford Cortina to the space shuttle, magnets aren’t all the same!!!! If they were they would be used in hospitals!!!!! how many times most it be saidlololol.

 

How strong is a porta-mag magnetic pulse compared to the

Machines used in human therapy on so what's link then?

[sandymere 8,263]

Edit to add answer is to Sowhats last post

 

LOL bit like dowsing?? or get an old magneto magnet off that Ford Cortina and stick em in a dog crate. Likely get the same effect lol. Or stand next to a willow tree when you have a headache, all that Salicylic Acid might just jump across somehow

Edited January 2, 2014 by sandymere