Mag Collars

[mushroom 13,268]

Iv always listened when you spoke of feeding but talking about fairys all time you sound like my young daughter... I'm sorry about your mate but why the nee to try and ridicule folks? Is it because I never too up your offer to join moochers???

 

 

Like I have said, my dogs feel better for it, I have spent little, and ain't execting it to work miracles... Where's the harm? I'll let you be now, it looks as tho your busy up there on your high horse....

I have to agree HM. Sandy normally you seem a knowledgable guy who doesn't come across as belittling (too much) but fairys etc wtf

 

Here's my take I called bullshit on Magnets until I was suffering from bad headaches last year the mrs being a bit of a freak and avid fan of magnets talked me into allowing her to put these things at certain points on my body blah blah they worked!!! How or why I don't know but there was definitely something there maybe placebo who knows. Now here's the other thing many lads on here are saying they see an improvement in their dogs now unless I'm mistaken dogs don't have a feckin clue what a placebo is, so maybe the owners are looking for something then.... Well in my experence it's easy to see an improvement when it's there and even easier to see it when it's not. Does this prove they work or don't?? I don't know....

 

What I do know is blood contains a shitload of iron (one of thee most magnetic elements in the periodic table) and everything from a cell to a proton is magnetically polarised so make your own mind up if magnets can effect the body

[Flipper_Al 1,012]

So if the iron in your blood is magnetic, what happens when your in an MRI scanner, its just a huge electro magnet with radio waves......?

Edited December 30, 2013 by Flipper_Al

[paulus 26]

So if the iron in your blood is magnetic, what happens when your in an MRI scanner with is a huge electro magnet with radio waves......?

you go stiff and point north

[mushroom 13,268]

So if the iron in your blood is magnetic, what happens when your in an MRI scanner, its just a huge electro magnet with radio waves......?

I would assume it polarises but I'm no expert what I do have knowledge of is Physics and that shiit is like Allah and Mohammed..... infallible.

 

Tip microscopic iron filings near a magnet and watch what happens.... Look at the clusters of cellular based diseases of people living near exceptionally strong magnetic fields such as powerlines and substations. You cannot tell me magnetism doesn't have some effect

[Flipper_Al 1,012]

Have read here

 

http://www.revisemri.com/blog/2006/mri-blood-iron-attraction/

 

Its not magnetic

 

Paulus....must be magnets in my bed i the morning then

[Giro 2,648]

Has any one used a mag collar or box and not found any positive benefits ??

 

 

That devils claw definitely works..

[mushroom 13,268]

Have read here

 

http://www.revisemri.com/blog/2006/mri-blood-iron-attraction/

 

Its not magnetic

 

Paulus....must be magnets in my bed i the morning then

Next time you want to look clever mate try a better source There isn't a single iron atom in this universe that isn't magnetic

[paulus 26]

google says

 

Apparently you're not the only one who isn't fully informed of the facts. Yes, the magnet would shift the iron particles. Yes, it would attract them, but not so much that you'd notice. Unless all the electrons in a material are spin-paired, one spin up and one spin down, then the material will be paramagnetic. Metallic iron has six 3d electrons, two paired and four unpaired - it's paramagnetic. Iron in red blood cells is bound to heme protein as iron (II). It also has six d electrons, two paired and four unpaired (though it's missing both of its 4s electrons), and so it also is paramagnetic with the same magnetic susceptibility ("magneticness") as metallic iron. (So much for ion guy.)

So, if you had a block of crystalline hemoglobin, it would be attracted to a magnet because of its iron content. (Really, because of the net electron spin of its iron ions.) To extract the iron from the Hb, you'd have to add enough energy to break the bonds coordinating the iron atom to the nitrogen atoms of the heme group and to the histidine of the globin protein. You might be able to extract the iron with a very powerful magnet, but certainly not with any permanent magnet or electromagnet you can obtain.

When the hemoglobin is dissolved in a red blood cell the situation is a bit different. The hemoglobin can hydrogen bond with water in the cell, which impedes its lateral movement, kind of like a marble falling through cold honey. Iron itself is only about 1/3 % of Hb by mass, so what you have is a very tiny motor dragging a very large load through a very thick syrup. A magnet would attract the iron in blood, but before the Hb moved very far under the influence of the magnet, it would be swept away along the blood vessel because of the much larger force of pressure in the vessel.

The effect would also be hard to detect because there's relatively little iron in blood compared to the amount of iron in iron. The normal concentration of iron in blood is 60-170 ug/dL, or 6-17 ug per cm^3 blood. The density of metallic iron is 7.9 g/cm^3. In other words, a given volume of metallic iron has about a million times as many iron atoms as the same volume of blood. In a 1 cm cube of blood, you'd have the equivalent of a lump of iron the size of a bacteria dissolved in the cube.

Finally, the motion of the hemoglobin molecule would reduce the attraction of the magnet. It rotates and moves within the RBC, attracted and repelled by other molecules nearby. The magnetic field would turn the Hb molecule so that the magnetic field of the iron atom is aligned with it, but intermolecular interactions between the Hb and other molecules "bumps" the Hb so that the Fe is sometimes turned the "wrong" direction in the field. The more often Hb is bumped and turned, the less effective the field is at attracting the Fe. At the so-called Curie temperature, the effect of the field is completely buried by the random motion. Hb-bound Fe++ isn't complete immune to the field, only less affected by it than it would be at a cooler temperature or in a less concentrated chemical environment.

[Flipper_Al 1,012]

 

Have read here

 

http://www.revisemri.com/blog/2006/mri-blood-iron-attraction/

 

Its not magnetic

 

Paulus....must be magnets in my bed i the morning then

Next time you want to look clever mate try a better source There isn't a single iron atom in this universe that isn't magnetic

 

 

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/questions/question/2848/

And i dont need to make myself look clever.....

Edited December 30, 2013 by Flipper_Al

[Davro 108]

 

So if the iron in your blood is magnetic, what happens when your in an MRI scanner with is a huge electro magnet with radio waves......?

you go stiff and point north

 

lol

[paulus 26]

a frog levitated with an electromagnet

 

[Davro 108]

iv had one them wrist ban on a few day an to be honest that first good sleep iv had in years, even heard the wife on the phone saying i think hes dead lol

[paulus 26]

iv had one them wrist ban on a few day an to be honest that first good sleep iv had in years, even heard the wife on the phone saying i think hes dead lol

did you wake up pointing north

[Davro 108]

 

iv had one them wrist ban on a few day an to be honest that first good sleep iv had in years, even heard the wife on the phone saying i think hes dead lol

did you wake up pointing north

 

lol always do

[sowhat 1,572]

Wether it be the collars or the mag box, I have definitely seen an improvement in my dogs by using them, and also I take offence to people trying to ridicule those that do believe they work, and nobody likes a smartarse