smudge.shrop 10 Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Wondering if anyone out there is using .25 for ratting? Ive always used .22 in either flathead or wadcutter but have heard that the .25 can be devastating.... Does the power out way the rainbow trajectory ? Quote Link to post
slipper 116 Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Na my mate had a 25 bsa lightning I think, was not worth it because you can't really use it for anything else unless it's fac because it drops to quick, head shot with either 22 or 25 has the same result which is dead! Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 A .25 running at 12ft lb is probably as close as you are likely to get to the perfect ratting gun, the problem is it is pretty useless at anything else! 1 Quote Link to post
barrywhite 282 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 some were on the net there is or was a vid of someone trying to shoot rats with a .25 .They dont do to well because when the rats hear the sound of the gun they move, the person shooting then misses . So rainbow trajectory is not going to be a problem you will have to get close . 1 Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 some were on the net there is or was a vid of someone trying to shoot rats with a .25 .They dont do to well because when the rats hear the sound of the gun they move, the person shooting then misses . So rainbow trajectory is not going to be a problem you will have to get close . Am I reading that right, the rat heard the rifle fire and moved before the pellet arrived? Rats (and many other animals) have very quick reactions, but even given the relatively slow speed of a 12ft lb .25 in relation to the speed of sound, no rat is going to get out of the way of a travelling pellet because he heard it. If they moved in the video you saw I suspect it was for another reason! ATB! Quote Link to post
John Amby 0 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 I saw the video too,the rat heard the pellet coming.it was a .303 the shooter missed all the time the pellet moved too slow Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) We are talking a 12ft lb .25. Something funny going on here...speed of sound 1116ft sec, 23g .25 pellet achieves 480ft sec at 11.8ft lb, therefore the pellet arrives in 125ms on a target 20 yards (60ft) away. The noise arrives in 54ms at that same target, so the rat has to react to an unexpected noise AND move in 71ms. :hmm: If ratty was closer and a lighter pellet used he would obviously have even less time, but of course further away/heavier pellet a bit more time. Frankly I think it unlikely, and if someone keeps missing I think other areas need exploring! Edited December 22, 2013 by Deker 1 Quote Link to post
Daz 7 563 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) What a Crock of Shite I've accurately Used My TTR 1 Rapid .25 cal shooting out to 55 yards with JSB Kings 25.4gr at 11.4 ft/lbs and even used it at the THL meet in the comps and the HFT. In the right hands it's an absolute Beast, Knocks Tree rats, Pigeons and corvids out to 55 yards no problem with the aid of a Laser range finder its a superb hunting cal with a massive kinetic knock down power imparted on the Quarry. Edited December 22, 2013 by Daz 7 3 Quote Link to post
slipper 116 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 55 yards, 11.4 ft/lb, 25 cal, accurate, dont believe it, sorry 1 Quote Link to post
Daz 7 563 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 55 yards, 11.4 ft/lb, 25 cal, accurate, dont believe it, sorry 1 Quote Link to post
bunny tickler 876 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 for all you non believers its obvious you havnt seen a proper shooter who really knows his aim points & his weapon , i have seen daz shoot woodies stone dead & several at that, in ranges in excess of 55 yds because he was with me , also ask the lads who shoot on the 75 yds top floor at atherton when we saw daz hit centre bull stood freehanded without any rest at 73 yds his .25 is awesome & so his his shooting , dont knock it if you havnt tried it 1 Quote Link to post
slipper 116 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 I have tried it with my mates lightning and a fac rapid was not impressed just my view Quote Link to post
bunnyman 68 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Well gents I use a BSA Scorpion SE .25 multishot pcp for ratting with .25 H& N FTT pellets and its a cracking good setup, i use a MTC Mamba lite 3x12x44 scope with my NS200 nitesite nv its accounted for many rats. atb brian 1 Quote Link to post
slipper 116 Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 As a ratting rifle they are great because if you miss the head the bigger pellet usually stops them if hit anywhere else, all I'm saying is I wouldn't like to use it for other pests Prefer 177 for shooting everything else through the head Quote Link to post
treecreeper 1,136 Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 the calibre of the rifle makes less difference than the calibre of the shooter. if you know your range and your aim points its just as accurate just less forgiving. 1 Quote Link to post
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