foresterj 1,096 Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 First, I have never even watched a Saluki run in the flesh. I have no experience with them whatsoever. I am under the impression that they are dumb as a box of rocks and do not consider listening to their owner as a priority. Are the Saluki crosses purely for coursing competition and fire the dog in there type hunts or are they of any real value to a lurcherman? Also, how are the crosses for intelligence? (ex. saluki X gh. x collie) what do you think is the more intelligent the collie or the saluki?don't think one is more intelligent than the other, more about tractability than intelligence imo. 1 Quote Link to post
beast 1,884 Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Saluki has become a generic term of long dog. As for massive generalisations - anti social?? Interesting description. But all becomes clear in the last lines....fetish for obedience I prefer independant thought, not collie style saluki has become a generic term in some circles, but i'm talking about pures, and admittedly my experience islimited, but i can only write what i have experienced myself i would also say that collies are more than capable of independent thought, they just dont mind if you decide to put some structure or control to it.i guess it boils down to two main things, the uses you have for the dog, and what your own personality is like (can you ahndle it mentally?). i know plenty of blokes who wouldnt give a collie cross kennel space, and just as many who wouldnt countenance a saluki-blooded dog on their premises. Quote Link to post
Calli 93 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Fit for purpose. Nothing netter than that BUT I want to keep pures because I thik that definition has kinda lost its way. Paper trails Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 to me they simply lurchers ,, likely the oldest type , look at the uk coursers a lot look very similar, another regional variation like tazi, sloughi etc the lines are only as honest as the men breeding them, no lies can be told once they off the slip and running, no piece of paper etc can help them then, peds best written on field 2 Quote Link to post
bird 9,968 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Saluki has become a generic term of long dog. As for massive generalisations - anti social?? Interesting description. But all becomes clear in the last lines....fetish for obedience I prefer independant thought, not collie style saluki has become a generic term in some circles, but i'm talking about pures, and admittedly my experience islimited, but i can only write what i have experienced myself i would also say that collies are more than capable of independent thought, they just dont mind if you decide to put some structure or control to it.i guess it boils down to two main things, the uses you have for the dog, and what your own personality is like (can you ahndle it mentally?). i know plenty of blokes who wouldnt give a collie cross kennel space, and just as many who wouldnt countenance a saluki-blooded dog on their premises. i think you got way up if you can live with dog temperament as pose to if its a good hunting dog.Meaning if the most important thing to you is how much it can catch day+ night, or the size of the bag dont bother you, just living with it and getting on with it is more inportant.?? Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 again its a balance, its a pure saluki , too many expect to get one and it to be a saluki lurcher, you enjoy em more if you accept them for what they are, whippets far from perfect however they do a job and are enjoyed saluki the same, some make great lampers, some are mint on bolted rabbits, some good on bambi Charlie etc , most however are just everyday average jack of all trades types if allowed to be, better than being average or poor at one thing maybe, more hunting you do with them the happier they are, sure they feck up and frustrate all types do that though, Ive no doubt any decent lurcher man could take one of my pups and make something from it, I doubt he would find them anything like the scatty timid loony ones you here of, your a good lurcher man come take one and try it mate if its no good or like they say fetch it back and all put me hands up on here as being wrong Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Take a falcon or hawk, and mans ability to work with such a primal creature, that is never ever truly tame , only conditioned in a certain manner, man can hunt with this animal something he has no real control of once he lets go of the jesses, sure hunger works as motivation to return, however its ultimately the partnership that's the real motivation to return, the falcon or hawk sees the man and also dog (worse natural predator) as a vital part of the hunt, all this is not done by magic as falconers would like most think it is, its done by following very simple basic steps and bonding of a team, working hard together , understanding and seeking to improve, kicking the bollocks off summat you that close to is impossible , so when things go wrong you step backwards and rewalk the path until success comes , same with saluki dog, once you in their heads control is rarely needed like most dogs that work well with owner and rarely screw up 4 Quote Link to post
riohog 5,722 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 well rich , there is a lot of sals and salx,s in the dog pound so maybe its time to change to a saluki bedlington see how they get on with them 1 Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 deffo the way forward that mate, you be able to hear where it is when it runs off never to return cos it yap the place down on way to it Quote Link to post
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