Millet 4,497 Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 I was talking to a youngster earlier and he said to me ......the RSPCA.,. had give his friend a knock and took his dog's away from him...through silly long ear picture's on face book.. why the f**k any one want's to stand with a dog and a Hare/Leveret is beyond me..and then stick it on the net.. It's not safe as we know BUT could you children try too think a little bit harder longer before you post on arse book.. pictures.. 11 Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 The answer to that Millet is really very simple. They are so insecure that they need to post photos to make themselve look importent, the funny thing is it ends up making them impotent. Feckin Idiots. TC 11 Quote Link to post
trenchfoot 4,243 Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 I've said it before and I will say it again, better to create memories and not evidence. It's not called the World Wide Web for nowt, and as soon as you publish something on there that's a bit non legit, then you have no reason to be surprised if you get a knock at the door. And it's not just young'uns either 2 Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted December 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 I've said it before and I will say it again, better to create memories and not evidence. Quote Link to post
foxhound45 167 Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Although there is also a danger here. Hunters are being made to feel that in UK/Ireland, legal hunting of foxes, rabbits etc cannot be photographed and put up onto facebook, as we are frowned upon or are images being used by Anti's in a slandering campaign. Hunting in Finland, Denmark, Sweden is publicly very popular, generates income for many businesses and is essential for long-term conservation and predator control. It should be no different here, for if it weren't for hunters controlling foxes we would numbers of ground nesting birds and mammals at detrimental low level! By being made to feel like we can't share our legal images due to having a nanny state were the oncoming Bambi generation is wrapped in cotton-wool, we have to share our images in pro-hunting facebook pages only. I am not saying that we should be accepted, because that would mean acknowledge what we do is wrong, when it isn't. Hunting should be as popular within facebook as what posting photos of other sport or past-time is. Our dogs may get the odd scratch from time to time, but we do our best to keep this to a minimum and all dogs are treated with the best veterinary care. For once I would like to take a stand in saying that I would like to see legal hunting photos posted on facebook and if anyone shows interest as to what the prey is, how it was caught or why it was hunted that the answers are provided by good experienced hunters, especially for the next generation who may want to hunt but do not know how or anyone to show them. 5 Quote Link to post
hawki 1,431 Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 i bet your not on facebook pal, an if you are,i bet you have about 20 close friends, do you post your hunting days out or put videos on there........ their is more antis or people that report you than their is hunters we are a minority and its getting smaller pretty fast unfortunelly 2 Quote Link to post
The one 8,467 Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 It's no just Facebook it's every site some folk just make the job easy for them ,all you need to do is think before you post 3 Quote Link to post
trenchfoot 4,243 Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Although there is also a danger here. Hunters are being made to feel that in UK/Ireland, legal hunting of foxes, rabbits etc cannot be photographed and put up onto facebook, as we are frowned upon or are images being used by Anti's in a slandering campaign. Hunting in Finland, Denmark, Sweden is publicly very popular, generates income for many businesses and is essential for long-term conservation and predator control. It should be no different here, for if it weren't for hunters controlling foxes we would numbers of ground nesting birds and mammals at detrimental low level! By being made to feel like we can't share our legal images due to having a nanny state were the oncoming Bambi generation is wrapped in cotton-wool, we have to share our images in pro-hunting facebook pages only. I am not saying that we should be accepted, because that would mean acknowledge what we do is wrong, when it isn't. Hunting should be as popular within facebook as what posting photos of other sport or past-time is. Our dogs may get the odd scratch from time to time, but we do our best to keep this to a minimum and all dogs are treated with the best veterinary care. For once I would like to take a stand in saying that I would like to see legal hunting photos posted on facebook and if anyone shows interest as to what the prey is, how it was caught or why it was hunted that the answers are provided by good experienced hunters, especially for the next generation who may want to hunt but do not know how or anyone to show them. Valid points, which I have some agreement with. But why the need to publish a picture of it? We all know what our chosen quarry looks like, so unless it's unusual in size or appearance, why stir the pot? As for legal photos, you have to prove its is so. I'd rather people stated what they were up to, real or imaginary and leave it to their piers to decide Quote Link to post
foxhound45 167 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Graphic images do not need to be posted, but the likes of a ferreting day or good fox dig (with discression) shouldn't be an issue. I definitely wouldn't stare the pot, say culling a deer calf for a specific reason and then really putting a photo of bambi up taken with a .308 would offend many people who don't understand that it may have been necessary. What I mean is...........hunters feeling made to lurk in the shadows is not right,...................we have an important role in countryside management and vital for the survival of agriculture. If it weren't for pest or vermin control the volume of food produced in the UK/Ireland would be much lower than what it currently is. It is a difficult issue and very hard to draw the line between what is socially accepted and what isn't, but if hunting remains out of sight then in time it will no longer be socially acceptable. 4 Quote Link to post
foxhound45 167 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 As for the RSPCA taking dogs..........did they have an accompanying police officer and issue a seizure warrant? So before any court appearance or arrest property was seized, without caution or a chance to provide evidence....i.e. photo taken in Ireland where coursing is legal, or even if the photo was taken before the ban was imposed. Who gave the RSPCA martial law!? 1 Quote Link to post
Terrier Sam 297 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I was considering starting a thread on this and having a bit of a rant the other day to be honest. I'm on facebook and am a member of a few groups on there too. Looking at these some of these groups, you'd think that we were back in 2003 when it was all still legal. Some of the posts are just plain stupid and quite frankly, those who have such little common sense as to brag about things like that on the internet deserve a hard lesson in my book. There are regularly comments about coursing hares, foxing with lurchers etc. and people openly discussing these things on said facebook pages. Like tiercel quite rightly said, it's insecure lads who feel that they need to post pics and comments like this to make themselves feel better. I'm just a rabbiting man but the law is the law. Why don't these dense people understand that? I'd have thought that, if you are going to break the law, the aim would be to at least try your best to keep yourself under the radar. Which is probably the reason that good robbers don't go round with an orange flashing light on their head 5 Quote Link to post
fox digger 1,086 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 facebook is a social networking site, unfortunatly hunting isnt seen to be a social or appropriate activity by the vast majority of the present generation that spend most of there time on facebook. Therefore it is not the right place to be publicising pics with silly content that shows "hunters" to be incapable of abiding by the law. posing with dogs and hares is pointing a loaded gun at all us "hunters". There were some arrests and dog confiscations in the midlands very lately due to the fact that young lads put pics up of there dogs with deer on facebook and bragged that they are getting massive numbers of them regular on the lamp with dogs........... realistically what outcome could anyone expect other than a few buddies saying great stuff lads and getting a big ego for a couple of days. It is this sort of shite that we as dog men and hunters should try to control and prevent it before it does make the headlines and put yet another dull cloud over hunting as a whole because lads who keep dogs and hunt them will be all tared with the one brush by the general public who know no different. 1 Quote Link to post
trenchfoot 4,243 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I agree, we should not hide our light under a bushel,if our actions are reasonable, justified and ethical. The media onslaught against all field sports is ridiculous. Our supposedly representative bodies are next to useless. We need a national body that is non apologetic and has the balls and ability to stand up for what we do and why we do it 1 Quote Link to post
stabba 10,745 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Just this morning i saw a pic on facebook ...by a friend...who openly posted a pic of seversl rabbits and a hare...why in gods name he didnt leave the hare out of the pic i'll never know...and in all fairness..the lad should know better...next he'll be moaning that he's had a knock. 2 Quote Link to post
hawki 1,431 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 if yous are members of a group..... or friends with people that post these pics....... you should tell them to take the pics down........... or let them no what the consequences are if they dont take them down...... im not being an old man im just saying have some input ffs. instead of posting about them on here. 1 Quote Link to post
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