Andrew Beirne 78 Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 Today I was asked by one of the land owners to ferret a new field that he has recently rented and there is alot of rabbits there ..I was just wondering would I be allowed or is it up to the actual landowners or the person who has it rented to say if I can or cant ferret the ground Quote Link to post
Kemperz21 65 Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 I would say the farmers chap as it's his crops that need defending from them if you don't do it I'm sure someone else will it's all about keeping the farmer happy Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 We were ferreting some permission today but accidentally strayed onto someone else's ground... A huge keepered estate as it happens. We were a few hours in and a very well spoken chap in his 60s approached us. "Oh jolly good job men, we hate them things on here". We explained that we weren't sure if we were still on permission land and he explained that we weren't. He was the owner of the whole estate and was a Lord of some sort. However he said that the rabbits were a nightmare for him and asked us to come again and said we could go anywhere we wanted. Couple of hours later a keeper (or wannabe keeper not sure which) approached us and wasn't happy with us ferreting at all. Said we could stick to the hedgerows but we weren't to walk the fields and that he rented the land off the guy we spoke to earlier. He said the owner had no business in giving us ferreting permission as he rented the land for his shoot. I'm still not sure who's right and who's wrong. I suppose if I rented a house and the owner said his mates could come round and use the kitchen then I would be pretty pissed off. Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 This side of the water(it may be different in Eire)the tennant can appoint a person to control the vermin(NOT GAME) as that will be in his tennancy agreement Y.I.S Leeview 3 Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 This side of the water(it may be different in Eire)the tennant can appoint a person to control the vermin(NOT GAME) as that will be in his tennancy agreementY.I.S Leeview Sure the wording on the relevant legislation states something about the tenant or his representative can carry out shooting/pest control for the purpose of controlling vermin alongside any sporting rights that might be held elsewhere. Like you say, not sure about the law over in Ireland though.. Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 He said the owner had no business in giving us ferreting permission as he rented the land for his shoot. I'm still not sure who's right and who's wrong. I suppose if I rented a house and the owner said his mates could come round and use the kitchen then I would be pretty pissed off. I'd assume by that he meant he pays for the sporting rights which only cover game.. Rabbits are not classed as game.. If the landowner actually works the field it would be up to him to control the pests or to appoint someone else to do so. What was the field being used for Gaz? Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Depends on the arrangement malt. Also you have to consider that the shooting bloke pays the landowner rent, so the guy is unlikely to upset him and lose the income over a few rabbits. Also a lot of shoots we do just don't want us there till feb, understandably! Quote Link to post
potpoacher 27 Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 check out the ground game act. Quote Link to post
The one 8,474 Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Up here the farmer or tenant can give one person written permission to control the vermin and still let the sporting rights ive fell out with a few so called keepers ended back at the farm and the farmer says if you did your job i wouldn't need him to do the rabbits , sorted them and ive had no more bother 1 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 He said the owner had no business in giving us ferreting permission as he rented the land for his shoot. I'm still not sure who's right and who's wrong. I suppose if I rented a house and the owner said his mates could come round and use the kitchen then I would be pretty pissed off. I'd assume by that he meant he pays for the sporting rights which only cover game.. Rabbits are not classed as game.. If the landowner actually works the field it would be up to him to control the pests or to appoint someone else to do so. What was the field being used for Gaz? The land was all being used for crop of some description. I suspect you are right and the keeper guy was just paying for sporting rights. The bloke who originally gave us permission was cursing the rabbits for destroying his crop. Quote Link to post
robbo 828 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 We ferret a piece of land with permission from the landowner who also has a indicate shoot on his land. The only rule is we are not allowed on when they are having a shooting day. S o I would say he has every right to give you permission . Quote Link to post
Jamie m 668 Posted December 18, 2013 Report Share Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) As long as the landlord is informed in this country no probs although if an estate or large farm due to unknown countryside politics he may tell ya to feck off : ) Edited December 18, 2013 by Jamie m Quote Link to post
Andrew Beirne 78 Posted December 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 Talked to the farmer today who has the land rented and we visited the farmer today an old man with loads of land he said i have permission to do the field i was originally asked to do and he said if i do he will give me permission for his whole farm up to 300 acres so fingers crossed that Sunday goes well Quote Link to post
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