Adding A Different Selvage Mesh

[Tiercel 6,986]

Hi, is the knot slipping down below the bend of the mesh you are adding to, sounds like it. as you will know the knot has to above the bend. When addding a thicker twine to a thinner twine this often happens because the normal netting knot (presume you are using that) being the sheet bend works best by using the thinner twine to tie the knot (or at very least same diameter as when making meshes) which is the exact oppositie of what you do when adding a thicker selvedge to a longnet. You need to create 'lump' to make it hard for the knot to slip below the mesh. An easy way to do this is to make a ''round turn'' around the mesh and then finish the knot as normal in the usual way. Bring needle up and through the mesh as normal and hold down twine on mesh board as normal with thumb, then take needle round the back and bring it back ''through the middle'' of the mesh (do not take the needle under this loop at this point as you would when forming a knot, you want a full ''round turn'' around the mesh NOT a knot at this point), now pull needle to remove any slack and hold down twine with thumb again on mesh board as normal (you will now just have a full ''round turn'' NOT a knot around the mesh), now just tie your usual netting knot as normal to finish. What you have done is create a 'lump' with a round turn to stop the knot above slipping below the mesh. Hopefully you can understand what i mean, in practice it is very quick and simple to do.

Good idea that.

 

TC

[Joonsy 38]

No NOT a carrick bend i am familiar with that, what i mean is, a full ''round turn'' first followed by the normal netting knot to finish. Normally you push the needle through the mesh once only and then tie your knot on top of that. However push the needle through the mesh ''twice'' first in exactly the same way and then tie the normal knot on top of that to finish. -- (pushing the needle through the mesh ''twice'' first forms a full round turn around the mesh, NOT a knot, pushing the needle around the mesh once only as you normally do is a ''half turn'' around the mesh)

[netrigger 568]

Got it now ...

Regards ..

[Tiercel 6,986]

No NOT a carrick bend i am familiar with that, what i mean is, a full ''round turn'' first followed by the normal netting knot to finish. Normally you push the needle through the mesh once only and then tie your knot on top of that. However push the needle through the mesh ''twice'' first in exactly the same way and then tie the normal knot on top of that to finish. -- (pushing the needle through the mesh ''twice'' first forms a full round turn around the mesh, NOT a knot, pushing the needle around the mesh once only as you normally do is a ''half turn'' around the mesh)

It really is quite simple you go through the v twice,

 

 

Once you get to that stage you make your knot as normal. Good idea there joonsy.

 

TC

[threelander 81]

got it mate quite simple really.i can now understand your previous explanation of this with ease now joolsy cheers.

[threelander 81]

joonsy sorry

[perthshire keeper 1,239]

indeed a very good idear.....only the lal stop net is now in the bin

[netrigger 568]

Nice, I have used that knot in the passed for twines . especially Polyethelene twines ..

another good knot is to do the double sheet bend " through the loop twice with the needle then between the mesh"

 

Regards..

[Joonsy 38]

 

No NOT a carrick bend i am familiar with that, what i mean is, a full ''round turn'' first followed by the normal netting knot to finish. Normally you push the needle through the mesh once only and then tie your knot on top of that. However push the needle through the mesh ''twice'' first in exactly the same way and then tie the normal knot on top of that to finish. -- (pushing the needle through the mesh ''twice'' first forms a full round turn around the mesh, NOT a knot, pushing the needle around the mesh once only as you normally do is a ''half turn'' around the mesh)

It really is quite simple you go through the v twice,

 

 

Once you get to that stage you make your knot as normal. Good idea there joonsy.

 

TC

 

 

a good clear photo there tiercel, thanks, a photo is often better understood than a verbal description. The 'round turn' forms a shoulder to help stop the knot slipping below the mesh. Of course you can finish with whatever knot you wish, finished with a double knot/carrick bend it forms a very secure knot, and it can be used in slippy material where other knots fail.