perthshire keeper 1,239 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 right chaps i have made a wee stop net from 3z nylon and its a belter only i come to add the selvage mesh, i was going to use yellow spun polly but it wont knot for hell! now all i have other than this is braided nylon and that wont knot to it eather! any sugestions of new knots to use, i dont want to double up the mesh thats too much hard work Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 That is a problem when joining thicker twine to thinner twine, try pulling the mesh board really tight while you make the knot depending on the twines that sometimes works. TC Quote Link to post
threelander 81 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 hi pk i never use nylon but can,t understand what you mean by the twines won,t knot.i,m no expert so i would like to know the answer to this too.in what way won,t it knot do you mean you are getting slip knots ?? atb threelander Quote Link to post
perthshire keeper 1,239 Posted December 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) hi pk i never use nylon but can,t understand what you mean by the twines won,t knot.i,m no expert so i would like to know the answer to this too.in what way won,t it knot do you mean you are getting slip knots ?? atb threelander igh right enugh the knots slip of fall thru, even double knots... and TC ime disappointed in you i was expecting a pure pearl of wisdom to fix my problem oh and could you please drop me a pm with a price for 2 6 yard trammel stop nets please Edited December 12, 2013 by perthshire keeper Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 hi pk i never use nylon but can,t understand what you mean by the twines won,t knot.i,m no expert so i would like to know the answer to this too.in what way won,t it knot do you mean you are getting slip knots ?? atb threelander igh right enugh the knots slip of fall thru, even double knots... and TC ime disappointed in you i was expecting a pure pearl of wisdom to fix my problem oh and could you please drop me a pm with a price for 2 6 yard trammel stop nets please PK have you tried pulling it tight while making the knot yet? TC Quote Link to post
perthshire keeper 1,239 Posted December 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 hi pk i never use nylon but can,t understand what you mean by the twines won,t knot.i,m no expert so i would like to know the answer to this too.in what way won,t it knot do you mean you are getting slip knots ?? atb threelander igh right enugh the knots slip of fall thru, even double knots... and TC ime disappointed in you i was expecting a pure pearl of wisdom to fix my problem oh and could you please drop me a pm with a price for 2 6 yard trammel stop nets please PK have you tried pulling it tight while making the knot yet? TC no ime sat on my arse on hear and FB wooing a lady Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Well how do you know that it is not a "pearl of wisdom"? TC Quote Link to post
threelander 81 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 as i say pk i,m only a novice but when i add the selvege mesh i hold the twine just above the board with my finger and thumb that seems to work for me.don,t get many slip knots at all.just my opinion but worth a try.just nip the twine above the board atb Quote Link to post
perthshire keeper 1,239 Posted December 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Well how do you know that it is not a "pearl of wisdom"? TC touche dear boy 1 Quote Link to post
netrigger 568 Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 try twisting the left bar of the 3z twine over the right bar of the mesh that should enable you to add the thicker twine without a slip knot . for some strange reason I cant add a picture !!! good old Photo F@kit .. Regards.. Quote Link to post
Country Joe 1,411 Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 try twisting the left bar of the 3z twine over the right bar of the mesh that should enable you to add the thicker twine without a slip knot . for some strange reason I cant add a picture !!! good old Photo F@kit .. Regards.. Good to see you back Bill. Quote Link to post
Mr Goodcat 69 Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 try twisting the left bar of the 3z twine over the right bar of the mesh that should enable you to add the thicker twine without a slip knot . for some strange reason I cant add a picture !!! good old Photo F@kit .. Regards.. If you could put a picture up when it's working I would be interested to see it. Mr Goodcat. Quote Link to post
Joonsy 38 Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 Hi, is the knot slipping down below the bend of the mesh you are adding to, sounds like it. as you will know the knot has to above the bend. When addding a thicker twine to a thinner twine this often happens because the normal netting knot (presume you are using that) being the sheet bend works best by using the thinner twine to tie the knot (or at very least same diameter as when making meshes) which is the exact oppositie of what you do when adding a thicker selvedge to a longnet. You need to create 'lump' to make it hard for the knot to slip below the mesh. An easy way to do this is to make a ''round turn'' around the mesh and then finish the knot as normal in the usual way. Bring needle up and through the mesh as normal and hold down twine on mesh board as normal with thumb, then take needle round the back and bring it back ''through the middle'' of the mesh (do not take the needle under this loop at this point as you would when forming a knot, you want a full ''round turn'' around the mesh NOT a knot at this point), now pull needle to remove any slack and hold down twine with thumb again on mesh board as normal (you will now just have a full ''round turn'' NOT a knot around the mesh), now just tie your usual netting knot as normal to finish. What you have done is create a 'lump' with a round turn to stop the knot above slipping below the mesh. Hopefully you can understand what i mean, in practice it is very quick and simple to do. 2 Quote Link to post
threelander 81 Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 lost me mate Quote Link to post
netrigger 568 Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 Carrick Bend Knot ? .. Regards.. Quote Link to post
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