THE STIFFMEISTER 16,102 Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 What are the advantages of the variations of the straight bull cross? For those who work them hard, is the half cross the ultimate tool with 50% of the dog being the non running dog? Or would you want a more standardised hound from proven parents eg a 5/8 cross or the first cross? Which is the best hybrid in your opinion guys for all round work? Quote Link to post
Westy76 546 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Most people on here talk shite about bull x's, they're as good as any other x and a hell of a lot better at some stuff.....the type of stuff that would have most x's howling like a f*****g saluki!!Hahahaha!!!!! Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Most people on here talk shite about bull x's, they're as good as any other x and a hell of a lot better at some stuff.....the type of stuff that would have most x's howling like a f*****g saluki!!A lot of saluki's will do what any bull'x can! Just that a saluki does not need a lift round the fields in a 4x4 all night!! That's brilliant. THE most stupid post I've ever read on here in my entire life. Give yourself a pat on the back. Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,546 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Read alot on here about bullxs I got a halfx bitch theres nothing wrong with her feet always bring rabbits back to hand shes a heavy bitch but will catch rabbits for fun day and night . She will hunt all day and is very driven as shes getting older I thought she was getting lazy but she lets the younger dogs hunt most lines and will only go if she knows she close lovely dog to have around the lads that have seen her will now im not bullshitting but she has her bad points stamina is a big thing she hasnt got alot but then again I don't get big numbers on the lamp this way but she does me thats all that matter and when she retires there a nice fire to sleep in front of shes earned it 1 Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Ive owned a half x and a 3/8th bred the half x is dead the 3/8th in his 5th season. Both knew how to use there nose and both were ran on terrible flinty ground and both caught a fair bit,I doubt id get another though and if i did it would have to have a drop of saluki or collie blood. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Ive owned a half x and a 3/8th bred the half x is dead the 3/8th in his 5th season. Both knew how to use there nose and both were ran on terrible flinty ground and both caught a fair bit,I doubt id get another though and if i did it would have to have a drop of saluki or collie blood. they need that little something to add steadiness and longevity. Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Ive owned a half x and a 3/8th bred the half x is dead the 3/8th in his 5th season. Both knew how to use there nose and both were ran on terrible flinty ground and both caught a fair bit,I doubt id get another though and if i did it would have to have a drop of saluki or collie blood. they need that little something to add steadiness and longevity. Yeah steadiness definitely but i dunno about longevity the bitch was killed in an accident whilst on her quarry but the other one is tough as old boots. Hes only been laid up a handful of times that i can remember and like i say has run on terrible ground and he gets abit of work. Self preservation is maybe the word for it. Maybe these fellers that know of bull crosses that can lamp 4 or 5 nights a week will be able to tell us whether there dogs have ever suffered from acidosis and how much running where they truly capable of ?? Not after an argument genuine question to the more experienced on here. Quote Link to post
South hams hunter 8,924 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Most people on here talk shite about bull x's, they're as good as any other x and a hell of a lot better at some stuff.....the type of stuff that would have most x's howling like a f*****g saluki!!A lot of saluki's will do what any bull'x can! Just that a saluki does not need a lift round the fields in a 4x4 all night!! If that was the case we wouldn't use bullxs. Salukis dont touch bullxs in there chosen field the same as a bullx to a saluki Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Ive owned a half x and a 3/8th bred the half x is dead the 3/8th in his 5th season. Both knew how to use there nose and both were ran on terrible flinty ground and both caught a fair bit,I doubt id get another though and if i did it would have to have a drop of saluki or collie blood.they need that little something to add steadiness and longevity. Yeah steadiness definitely but i dunno about longevity the bitch was killed in an accident whilst on her quarry but the other one is tough as old boots. Hes only been laid up a handful of times that i can remember and like i say has run on terrible ground and he gets abit of work. Self preservation is maybe the word for it. Maybe these fellers that know of bull crosses that can lamp 4 or 5 nights a week will be able to tell us whether there dogs have ever suffered from acidosis and how much running where they truly capable of ?? Not after an argument genuine question to the more experienced on here. i have one here that has suffered full rhabdomyolysis as well as getting close to collapse on various occasions, he was fully fit but his drive is far stronger that his body and the switch that would tell a normal dog to quit is missing. Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Ive owned a half x and a 3/8th bred the half x is dead the 3/8th in his 5th season. Both knew how to use there nose and both were ran on terrible flinty ground and both caught a fair bit,I doubt id get another though and if i did it would have to have a drop of saluki or collie blood. they need that little something to add steadiness and longevity. Yeah steadiness definitely but i dunno about longevity the bitch was killed in an accident whilst on her quarry but the other one is tough as old boots. Hes only been laid up a handful of times that i can remember and like i say has run on terrible ground and he gets abit of work. Self preservation is maybe the word for it. Maybe these fellers that know of bull crosses that can lamp 4 or 5 nights a week will be able to tell us whether there dogs have ever suffered from acidosis and how much running where they truly capable of ?? Not after an argument genuine question to the more experienced on here. i have one here that has suffered full rhabdomyolysis as well as getting close to collapse on various occasions, he was fully fit but his drive is far stronger that his body and the switch that would tell a normal dog to quit is missing. A bloke who used to live down the road from me had a half x that never got Excercised or taken out on quarry. Believe it or not but that bitch used to get so worked up it would pass out. Ended up killing another dog and was rehomed to one of these "bully rescues". Did yours make a full recovery pualus or is there any lasting effects ?? Atb Quote Link to post
DEERMAN 1,020 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) Horses for courses I prefer a 3/8 for all round work and have one here fast enough and enough wind for anything For heavy work and pure fox work 3/4 times a week,when you were allowed preban ,1/2 x comes into its own and nothing equals it well that's my view Edited December 12, 2013 by DEERMAN 1 Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Ive owned a half x and a 3/8th bred the half x is dead the 3/8th in his 5th season. Both knew how to use there nose and both were ran on terrible flinty ground and both caught a fair bit,I doubt id get another though and if i did it would have to have a drop of saluki or collie blood.they need that little something to add steadiness and longevity. Yeah steadiness definitely but i dunno about longevity the bitch was killed in an accident whilst on her quarry but the other one is tough as old boots. Hes only been laid up a handful of times that i can remember and like i say has run on terrible ground and he gets abit of work. Self preservation is maybe the word for it. Maybe these fellers that know of bull crosses that can lamp 4 or 5 nights a week will be able to tell us whether there dogs have ever suffered from acidosis and how much running where they truly capable of ?? Not after an argument genuine question to the more experienced on here. i have one here that has suffered full rhabdomyolysis as well as getting close to collapse on various occasions, he was fully fit but his drive is far stronger that his body and the switch that would tell a normal dog to quit is missing. A bloke who used to live down the road from me had a half x that never got Excercised or taken out on quarry. Believe it or not but that bitch used to get so worked up it would pass out. Ended up killing another dog and was rehomed to one of these "bully rescues". Did yours make a full recovery pualus or is there any lasting effects ?? Atb he made a full recovery yes, i have seen a good few get that worked up they wobble or even fit. its as if they hyperventilate and don't take enough oxygen in, Quote Link to post
DEERMAN 1,020 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Ive owned a half x and a 3/8th bred the half x is dead the 3/8th in his 5th season. Both knew how to use there nose and both were ran on terrible flinty ground and both caught a fair bit,I doubt id get another though and if i did it would have to have a drop of saluki or collie blood. i have a 3/8 with coursing blood instead of greyhound and i think its def way forward ,this bitch has loads of gears ,wind and does what other good bull x do Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Ive owned a half x and a 3/8th bred the half x is dead the 3/8th in his 5th season. Both knew how to use there nose and both were ran on terrible flinty ground and both caught a fair bit,I doubt id get another though and if i did it would have to have a drop of saluki or collie blood. i have a 3/8 with coursing blood instead of greyhound and i think its def way forward ,this bitch has loads of gears ,wind and does what other good bull x do that seems to be the way to go Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Ive owned a half x and a 3/8th bred the half x is dead the 3/8th in his 5th season. Both knew how to use there nose and both were ran on terrible flinty ground and both caught a fair bit,I doubt id get another though and if i did it would have to have a drop of saluki or collie blood. they need that little something to add steadiness and longevity. Yeah steadiness definitely but i dunno about longevity the bitch was killed in an accident whilst on her quarry but the other one is tough as old boots. Hes only been laid up a handful of times that i can remember and like i say has run on terrible ground and he gets abit of work. Self preservation is maybe the word for it. Maybe these fellers that know of bull crosses that can lamp 4 or 5 nights a week will be able to tell us whether there dogs have ever suffered from acidosis and how much running where they truly capable of ?? Not after an argument genuine question to the more experienced on here. i have one here that has suffered full rhabdomyolysis as well as getting close to collapse on various occasions, he was fully fit but his drive is far stronger that his body and the switch that would tell a normal dog to quit is missing. A bloke who used to live down the road from me had a half x that never got Excercised or taken out on quarry. Believe it or not but that bitch used to get so worked up it would pass out. Ended up killing another dog and was rehomed to one of these "bully rescues". Did yours make a full recovery pualus or is there any lasting effects ?? Atb he made a full recovery yes, i have seen a good few get that worked up they wobble or even fit. its as if they hyperventilate and don't take enough oxygen in, Good to hear made a recovery. Yes that sounds about right seen the odd terrier do it but that is the only lurcher I've seen it happen to. It would do it over silly things too like a cat running across the path or other dogs on the opposite side of the road. And it came from a litter of 13 !! DEERMAN: that's the way I would go about things of I was going to get another. All the best with your bitch. Quote Link to post
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