Accip74 7,112 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) That doesn't make it okay though does it? Regardless of what he achieved after prison his actions beforehand shouldn't be glossed over as seems everyone is doing. I've seen people claiming he should be handed a Sainthood?! Truly f*****g mental. I get your point.......but we gloss over our actions........I've no sympathy for Mandela........but when England chooses what economically is the 'right cause', women & children die also, cos of our actions......fact. Edited December 6, 2013 by Accip74 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RubyTex 1,957 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 That doesn't make it okay though does it? Regardless of what he achieved after prison his actions beforehand shouldn't be glossed over as seems everyone is doing. I've seen people claiming he should be handed a Sainthood?! Truly f*****g mental.I get your point.......but we gloss over our actions........I've no sympathy for Mandela........but when England chooses what economically is the 'right cause', women & children die also, cos of our actions......fact. Yeah definitely. Women and children have been killed the world over from our actions. But we're not being lauded round the world as some kind of hero, give us a saint hood etc! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 That doesn't make it okay though does it? Regardless of what he achieved after prison his actions beforehand shouldn't be glossed over as seems everyone is doing. I've seen people claiming he should be handed a Sainthood?! Truly f*****g mental. I get your point.......but we gloss over our actions........I've no sympathy for Mandela........but when England chooses what economically is the 'right cause', women & children die also, cos of our actions......fact. Yeah definitely. Women and children have been killed the world over from our actions. But we're not being lauded round the world as some kind of hero, give us a saint hood etc! I totally agree......but facts is facts.........are the women & children we have killed less deserving than the women & children he has killed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nans pat 2,575 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 he was putting tyres round peoples necks filling them with sunny jim and lighting them while doing a war dance .and theres people wanting him made a saint.ffs.peter sutcliffes locked in broadmoor for less. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Nelson not even his real. Name Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banter 1,751 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 he was putting tyres round peoples necks filling them with sunny jim and lighting them while doing a war dance .and theres people wanting him made a saint.ffs.peter sutcliffes locked in broadmoor for less.that was ole winnie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banter 1,751 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Nelson not even his real. Namejust as well there already a saint nelson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RubyTex 1,957 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Accip - Not at all. We've done more than our fair share of horrible stuff over the years that should never have happened. I'm just perplexed at the Sainthood comments, i've never killed anyone so if he's a Saint am i technically God? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nans pat 2,575 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Nelson not even his real. Name sabumba.lol when he lived in the shanty town but like adams and co once he theived enough money he had 1 eye for th good life.hence nelson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nans pat 2,575 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Accip - Not at all. We've done more than our fair share of horrible stuff over the years that should never have happened. I'm just perplexed at the Sainthood comments, i've never killed anyone so if he's a Saint am i technically God? the gods are on the saluki section. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Nelson not even his real. Namejust as well there already a saint nelson THERE IS ONLY ONE. NELSON HE looks out over Trafalgar SQ . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Accip - Not at all. We've done more than our fair share of horrible stuff over the years that should never have happened. I'm just perplexed at the Sainthood comments, i've never killed anyone so if he's a Saint am i technically God? Lol....you won't find me defending Mandela....in any way.......but...well you know what my point was..........unfortunately his persona is out of our hands 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 That doesn't make it okay though does it? Regardless of what he achieved after prison his actions beforehand shouldn't be glossed over as seems everyone is doing. I've seen people claiming he should be handed a Sainthood?! Truly f*****g mental.I get your point.......but we gloss over our actions........I've no sympathy for Mandela........but when England chooses what economically is the 'right cause', women & children die also, cos of our actions......fact. A sense of perspective please. Don't forget the UK was the first country to abolish slavery in 1833. It was considered morally repugnant even back then when we were sending prisoners to the colonies and taking children from women who'd given birth out of wedlock. I don't think we have much to apologise for compared to the other countries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mixedgrill 704 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Nelson not even his real. Namejust as well there already a saint nelsonTHERE IS ONLY ONE. NELSON HE looks out over Trafalgar SQ .but not O'Connell street :-D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
treecreeper 1,136 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 im sick of hearing it tbh, I don't even like his one minute rice 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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