Steve_in_Devon 9 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 I think you miss my point, I am not saying dont have it on the news for 5 mins, or a small mention in a newspaper, but I will reiterate, the man was not a saint, or a demonstrable figure of world peace,he was a murderer, be that by his own hand or by his direction to others, you cannot deny that! so it makes me sick, as it clearly does to others, that he is being remembered by every person that wants a bit of limelight, as a jolly old stick, who fought against the oppression of the evil whites. I wonder how many IRA terrorists will be lauded in similar fashion in years to come? Or perhaps the leader of the black panthers ect, I am sure we could compile quite a list. Yes I agree, but people have very good opions on there, do they know what it wa like to live in SA, did they used to hear about how people were treated during the apartheid years. It is very easy to form opinions with one side of the story. How many South Africans are not upset about his death? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,662 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Why did you leave matey if you don't mind me asking? No need for a pm this time. Bacause I didnt want to bring up my children in Joburg, and I was going to have to move there because of work. Why not?.....tell me to mind my own if you like. Just wondering that if Nelson was such a great chap and created such a great nation, why would you want to leave? You do realise that he was not president anymore? He might have done some good things (my opnion) but that doesnt mean that this would be carried on, every president has his own agenda, as with any countries priminster/president The reason we left was Joburg can not be a very safe place and I didnt want my children having to live like that. I have lots of friends who love Joburg, but is was not for us. I am also not a big city person. Fair enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Ive worked in a few african countries. Sasle i think its spelt oil refinery. Seen shanty towns passing through , what i can could never understand Mandela man of the people savoir of. The sa blacks never. Fulfilled his promises soon as he got into power done what all The rest do lined his own pockets looked after the gang fooked the rest and won the rugby world cup a game played by the Rich , Shanty towns have got bigger the rich have got richer. And every ones swooning and slalavating , THE king was in the all together his all together LOL Edited December 6, 2013 by gonetoearth 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 I think you miss my point, I am not saying dont have it on the news for 5 mins, or a small mention in a newspaper, but I will reiterate, the man was not a saint, or a demonstrable figure of world peace,he was a murderer, be that by his own hand or by his direction to others, you cannot deny that! so it makes me sick, as it clearly does to others, that he is being remembered by every person that wants a bit of limelight, as a jolly old stick, who fought against the oppression of the evil whites. I wonder how many IRA terrorists will be lauded in similar fashion in years to come? Or perhaps the leader of the black panthers ect, I am sure we could compile quite a list. Don't mention the terrorist word or any implication of him being involved in murder. You'll be banned from every Bob Geldof and Sting concert for life and as for any hopes of joining the Socialist Workers Party forget it. He needs to be canonised by the west so we can be absolved of guilt for the last 200 years As we speak Bono is getting his parachute on ready to free fall from an airplane over London whilst distributing South African Peace crisps 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) I think you miss my point, I am not saying dont have it on the news for 5 mins, or a small mention in a newspaper, but I will reiterate, the man was not a saint, or a demonstrable figure of world peace,he was a murderer, be that by his own hand or by his direction to others, you cannot deny that! so it makes me sick, as it clearly does to others, that he is being remembered by every person that wants a bit of limelight, as a jolly old stick, who fought against the oppression of the evil whites. I wonder how many IRA terrorists will be lauded in similar fashion in years to come? Or perhaps the leader of the black panthers ect, I am sure we could compile quite a list. did they used to hear about how people were treated during the apartheid years. I? . No worse that the working classes of britain were treated by the upper classes for hundreds of years , Edited December 6, 2013 by gonetoearth 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 I think you miss my point, I am not saying dont have it on the news for 5 mins, or a small mention in a newspaper, but I will reiterate, the man was not a saint, or a demonstrable figure of world peace,he was a murderer, be that by his own hand or by his direction to others, you cannot deny that! so it makes me sick, as it clearly does to others, that he is being remembered by every person that wants a bit of limelight, as a jolly old stick, who fought against the oppression of the evil whites. I wonder how many IRA terrorists will be lauded in similar fashion in years to come? Or perhaps the leader of the black panthers ect, I am sure we could compile quite a list. Yes I agree, but people have very good opions on there, do they know what it wa like to live in SA, did they used to hear about how people were treated during the apartheid years. It is very easy to form opinions with one side of the story. How many South Africans are not upset about his death? I have no idea, and quite frankly don't care! the fact remains that it shows the peversity of the world we live in when a man who has commited henious crimes, can rise to superstar status, and be fawned on by people worldwide, who I strongly suspect, a lot of have no idea about his past, and every sickly radio presenter and newsreader, and cowardly politician is speaking about him as if some great man of peace, or someone who was responsible for ending suffering on a mass scale has passed away, you see there is only one side of the story, if Heinrich Himmler had in later life become an icon of world peace and done good work in the jewish community, would that have been justification to forgive his earlier naughtiness? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,662 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Not him, but Heydrich maybe !! Lol 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banter 1,751 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 R I P a great humanitarian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bumfluff 6 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 REST IN PEACE NELSON Your now in the land of the martyrs indeed he is RIP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bumfluff 6 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 That was strange lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 That was strange lol Not as strange as you both posting on the same topic, the same day, using the same IP, nip out and get a euromillions ticket Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bumfluff 6 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Your wrong don't have an ip lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Your wrong don't have an ip lol i can see it on every post you make Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Busted :laugh: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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