jeemes 4,453 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 I'd never shoot into trees matey. The main reason really is I suffer with a bad lower back with and with the recoil of my 12g it gets a lot worse. I'm looking at getting a .410 pump in the future but not just yet. Thought I'd just try my hand at decoying with rifle and saving a money on shells in the meantime Atb Dan Just for the record... NEVER fire any proper rifle into the air period and that includes bushes, trees, wall top etc, in fact anywhere you do not have a verifiable background behind the object that acts as a proper safe bullet stop. I believe from memory an elevated .22 LR round is dangerous to a range of 1.5 MILES (it's usually printed on the boxes). (When elevated it a bullet follows a parabolic curve and with the right angle of elevation that becomes the max range for .22 LR)!!!!) Centre-fire is considerably more dangerous, from memory I've seen warnings of 3 miles or more! Any bullet that leaves your land / permission makes you liable for a charge of Armed Trespass although endangering the public etc is likely to be thrown in there as well. Hit property and you'll get charged with Criminal Damage at a minimum. Hit a person and you're looking at grievous bodily harm or manslaughter depending on how it pans out without any of the additional firearm charges that will be thrown in, and it goes without saying you'll lose your certificate, period and for most likely for ever (remember the para about not being a danger to the public?). NEVER EVER elevate a rifle beyond a solid backstop or fire into woods / bushes unless you have a backstop the other side and can see all of the way through. There are a lot of vids on Youtube of Americans firing at targets with bushes and woodland behind and TBH many of them are just idiots. Don't be misled by them. If you can't see all the way behind the target / prey to a safe backstop you shouldn't be taking the shot. You don't know who is in the woods / bushes nor do you know who's on the land beyond yours, and in the case of elevation, can you see 1.5 miles and guarantee its safe? As for shotguns, if you suffer from recoil problems then semi is the way to go. Just be aware they are frowned on, on some shoots and even prohibited on some others. 1st thing to buy here is a chamber flag. "air period" what does that mean? Quote Link to post
Bunny Boiler 177 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 I'd never shoot into trees matey. The main reason really is I suffer with a bad lower back with and with the recoil of my 12g it gets a lot worse. I'm looking at getting a .410 pump in the future but not just yet. Thought I'd just try my hand at decoying with rifle and saving a money on shells in the meantime Atb Dan Just for the record... NEVER fire any proper rifle into the air period and that includes bushes, trees, wall top etc, in fact anywhere you do not have a verifiable background behind the object that acts as a proper safe bullet stop. I believe from memory an elevated .22 LR round is dangerous to a range of 1.5 MILES (it's usually printed on the boxes). (When elevated it a bullet follows a parabolic curve and with the right angle of elevation that becomes the max range for .22 LR)!!!!) Centre-fire is considerably more dangerous, from memory I've seen warnings of 3 miles or more! Any bullet that leaves your land / permission makes you liable for a charge of Armed Trespass although endangering the public etc is likely to be thrown in there as well. Hit property and you'll get charged with Criminal Damage at a minimum. Hit a person and you're looking at grievous bodily harm or manslaughter depending on how it pans out without any of the additional firearm charges that will be thrown in, and it goes without saying you'll lose your certificate, period and for most likely for ever (remember the para about not being a danger to the public?). NEVER EVER elevate a rifle beyond a solid backstop or fire into woods / bushes unless you have a backstop the other side and can see all of the way through. There are a lot of vids on Youtube of Americans firing at targets with bushes and woodland behind and TBH many of them are just idiots. Don't be misled by them. If you can't see all the way behind the target / prey to a safe backstop you shouldn't be taking the shot. You don't know who is in the woods / bushes nor do you know who's on the land beyond yours, and in the case of elevation, can you see 1.5 miles and guarantee its safe? As for shotguns, if you suffer from recoil problems then semi is the way to go. Just be aware they are frowned on, on some shoots and even prohibited on some others. 1st thing to buy here is a chamber flag. "air period" what does that mean? Period is the Americanisation of what we would call a full stop. So when someone says period, it means "and that's the end of it", or until told otherwise. Quote Link to post
activeviii 8 Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Semi auto 12g all the way. I have a bust up back. I have to shoot from a chair for 90% of the time. For pigeon I use 28 of 7.5 and have put over 250 though many many a time. I am thinking about switching to the 20g semi as the gun is lighter. Shooting pigeons with a rifle I have done a few time. But I just use sud 12lb or fac air. Not sure about the 22lr but I guess no different to rabbits. Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted December 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Cheers mate. Ill invest in a semi once I've got my rifles Atb Dan Quote Link to post
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