Which Non Toxic Cartridge

[The Seeker 3,048]

I prefer Tungsten Matrix as I've had good results with this, it's a bit expensive but although I've used steel in the past I find it doesn't group as well. Bismuth to me is a terrible load.

 

Not tried TMX yet so interested to see what you guys are using

[leslie harold gedge 1,390]

we all use 34g 3in solway magnums high performance steel shot no1 fe 4mm and the do the job for us no3 for ducks .we drop 4 geese today with the no1s

[MIK 4,756]

hevi shot every one I know that has used them rates them ....and that is from lads out there doing it

[charlie caller 3,654]

If I could afford it lol, heavy shot would be my choice, all the time, as you know mate I like tungsten too, I want to try some of the new Eley lightning steel, over 1600fps but have not seen any around yet.

[The Seeker 3,048]

If I could afford it lol, heavy shot would be my choice, all the time, as you know mate I like tungsten too, I want to try some of the new Eley lightning steel, over 1600fps but have not seen any around yet.

 

Have you read about the TMX though? They reckon they are as near to lead as its going to get and better and cheaper than tungsten matrix.

[leslie harold gedge 1,390]

do you mean these charlie? been trying them for 4-5 weeks but dont like them, i prefer solway steel. just my preference and they are a lot cheaper

[charlie caller 3,654]

Are they the Eley's Les? I would have thought they would hit em with a hell of a whack, going that fast, I have seen some of the home loaded super fast steel kill geese at a hell of a range on the Ouse washes, how much are they a box then Les?

[charlie caller 3,654]

 

If I could afford it lol, heavy shot would be my choice, all the time, as you know mate I like tungsten too, I want to try some of the new Eley lightning steel, over 1600fps but have not seen any around yet.

 

Have you read about the TMX though? They reckon they are as near to lead as its going to get and better and cheaper than tungsten matrix.

 

Well lets hope they start to produce a load bigger than 32 gram 5s then, as Gamebore website suggests thats all they do currently.

[leslie harold gedge 1,390]

yes charlie eley 1 of the lads from down south that comes on the geese with us fetched them up 22 quid a box.i find they have too much over kill i shot 2 geese that got 150-200 yards before they dropped if they were lead perfect deadd on the spot.les

[Beefbeefbeef 10]

 

If I could afford it lol, heavy shot would be my choice, all the time, as you know mate I like tungsten too, I want to try some of the new Eley lightning steel, over 1600fps but have not seen any around yet.

 

Have you read about the TMX though? They reckon they are as near to lead as its going to get and better and cheaper than tungsten matrix.

 

 

I've been using 32g TMX over the past 3 years and really like them. Before that I used Tungsten Matrix in 36g which were even better but I stopped when they went daft expensive (think they are towards £2 a shell!).

 

If you buy 250 TMX they work out at about 90p a shell however Gamebore have stopped / paused production because the price of tungsten has just rocketed again. They were also dropping the load from 32g to 30g which is surely too light for duck.

 

I've just bought a couple of boxes of Gamebore Steel and will see how they go but I'm not optimistic.

[charlie caller 3,654]

Yes 30g is too light for duck on the foreshore, ok over a flight pond maybe, I use gamebore 3" magnum steel and they are pretty good, I wish we could get some of the yank stuff over here, Remington do a waterfowling steel 3" shell pushing the shot at well over 1700fps, and according to the reports I have read is absolutely deadly on geese.

[leslie harold gedge 1,390]

charlie i think we need less speed and more hitting power with bigger shot size in steel just my view.ps bring back lead please

[charlie caller 3,654]

Well thats the yank philosophy, Les, in that in order to get more hitting power from lighter steel, it must be driven mega quick, the higher the velocity the higher the striking energy, but as you have indicated, maybe these super quick steel loads are going right through, so unless you hit a vital organ, the energy is not transferred, as it would be with heavier softer shot, I must say that every duck/goose I have shot with heavy-shot, has come down like a lead baloon, but I am with you on the lead mate, bring it back, I have a couple of boxes of 50gram no 3s knocking about, reserved for foxes now, but they would do the business on the geese.

Edited December 4, 2013 by charlie caller

[Beefbeefbeef 10]

I still question the original rationale behind banning lead shot for shooting. I can see the logic of banning lead shot from fishing tackle on some english canals and rivers where the anglers are 10 yards apart and fishing the shallows, often daily, where the wildfowl are probably feeding. But was there ever any real evidence that shotgun shooting was causing the same problem?

 

I've a feeling the ban on lead shot in shooting got "swept up" with the fishing ban. Now there is chat that they might ban lead altogether because people aren't observing the ban!

 

If there is evidence to the contrary then I am happy to stand corrected.

Edited December 4, 2013 by Beefbeefbeef

[MIK 4,756]

 

 

If I could afford it lol, heavy shot would be my choice, all the time, as you know mate I like tungsten too, I want to try some of the new Eley lightning steel, over 1600fps but have not seen any around yet.

 

Have you read about the TMX though? They reckon they are as near to lead as its going to get and better and cheaper than tungsten matrix.

 

 

I've been using 32g TMX over the past 3 years and really like them. Before that I used Tungsten Matrix in 36g which were even better but I stopped when they went daft expensive (think they are towards £2 a shell!).

 

If you buy 250 TMX they work out at about 90p a shell however Gamebore have stopped / paused production because the price of tungsten has just rocketed again. They were also dropping the load from 32g to 30g which is surely too light for duck.

 

I've just bought a couple of boxes of Gamebore Steel and will see how they go but I'm not optimistic.

 

why is 30g to light for duck ?