charlie caller 3,654 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Simple answer, nope. Quote Link to post
bobjs 28 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) I think you are better keeping to a bolt action, i have had a few semis over the years and not one was worth a fart in a sleeping bag, noisey problematic with ammo and the accuracy was pants, save money and buy a bolt action and don't look back, all the best bob. Edited November 22, 2013 by scotland rifles Quote Link to post
hutchey 147 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 pity as they look great Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Nice quick way to get a H&C pointed at your head I would think. 2 Quote Link to post
hutchey 147 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 very true,it would be difficult to get them to check that without me first being put on the ground does look nice though Quote Link to post
Lloyd90 509 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Bit too tacticool for me lol. Wouldn't mind a standard 10/22, maybe when funds allow I'll pick one up for fun plinking etc Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 A guy I know has one of the tricked up RM 10/22s with the carbon fibre barrel, and re-worked action and trigger, in a nice custom stock, I have never shot it but he assures me it is worth every penny of the £900 he spent on it, it performs flawlesly and will group one holers at 50 yards, so they must be doing something right. Quote Link to post
kenj 131 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 I have a Magtech 7022 .22 semi, which is reasonably accurate for bunnies out to 60 yards with a scope and quiet with a moderator. Mostly used around the farms using single shots. It prefers Eley subs, but I can't get them, so RWS subs are the next best with just the odd non ejected case. Recently I got some new permissions with a lot of rabbits in groups and it has worked well fitted with a decent red/green dot sight. It's much easier to move from rabbit to rabbit with this sight, although I miss a few in the heat of the moment. The semi auto worked a treat in this situation, picking off rabbits one after the other, before they scattered too far, then I brought the CZ 452 HMR into action and picked off the rest. There were over twenty rabbits in this paddock, when I started shooting and 14 dead ones at the finish. With a bolt action only, I would have been lucky to get half of them before they disappeared. I emptied two ten shot mags on the semi, before bringing out the HMR. I was shooting off a fence. This was my blog post. http://www.urbanfieldsportsman.com/index.php/cz452-varmint-17-hmr-backs-up-magtech-7022-22-semi-auto-in-5-minute-shoot-out/ Quote Link to post
lee8375dogs 9 Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Went to the local gun shop now I am confused what to buy had an idea of getting a cz .22 bolt action with16"barrel then he showed me a savage and a ruger 10/22 his advise was a savage was a bit better gun I aso mentioned about semi auto to him and his advice was that the ruger semi is just as accurate as a bolt action and is really reliable anybody got any advise but I would say this the cz looked the better quality Quote Link to post
kenj 131 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 I would say consider the type of ground and shooting situations you want the rifle for. As in my earlier post, the semi auto Magtech .22 was probably the cheapest .22 around at £100, but it has given good service with no frills attached. It has good accuracy when rested, or used with a tactical sling, while offering a second, or third shot without taking your eye off the target. In situations like in the previous photo, when confronted by multiple targets, you can't beat the fire power from a semi auto. If you are looking for an accurate, reliable rifle for considered shots out to 60 yards, go for the CZ 452 with the 16 inch barrel. Any further, then maybe you should consider forgetting the .22 all together and go for the CZ 452 in HMR. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Went to the local gun shop now I am confused what to buy had an idea of getting a cz .22 bolt action with16"barrel then he showed me a savage and a ruger 10/22 his advise was a savage was a bit better gun I aso mentioned about semi auto to him and his advice was that the ruger semi is just as accurate as a bolt action and is really reliable anybody got any advise but I would say this the cz looked the better quality What Savage, and better than what gun? Sounds to me like he it trying to shift stock he has had around for a while! Out of the box the 10-22 is guaranteed to be the least accurate, but frankly this is an issue that gets far too much air time and the difference for general field work isn't worth talking about! Finding the right ammo for all of them will be far more important than the inherent small manufacturing difference in their accuracy. I had a 10 round string in 1.7 seconds at Bisley at 100 yards with my Magtech Semi, and they all hit the black! You need to make a basic decision up front, Semi or Bolt, then go from there. I have both, the Bolt gets far more use, but the Semi has a place, it works far better than I could have expected and is cheap as chips, incredibly light and does what I want. If I had to keep just one it would be the CZ Bolt, I also like light rifles, what was the CZ you saw, the Varmints are heavy, not for me, I have no time for Savage .22lr field rifles, but they do have some cracking rifles within their catalogue. I have the rifles that I need and that work for me, but we are all different, try not to get pushed into anything by the RFD, get what you want. Quote Link to post
The Seeker 3,048 Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Unless your looking to punch paper targets and want to spend hundreds if not thousands on a match rifle then go for what you want. At the end of the day it's only a rim fire, it's a plinking/rabbiting rifle. As I have stated before my preference is/was the 10/22 as I liked the flexibility and it was cheap. It's more than accurate for what i use it for and I can get off 3 fairly accurate shots in the time it takes an average shooter to get off one. As Deker says choose either semi or bolt action and get the best value ou can buy and go out and enjoy yourself. If we were talking centre fire then the conversation is far far deeper but it's a rim fire at the end of the day. Let us know what you choose. 1 Quote Link to post
drut 9 Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I have CZ452 16" Silhouette & a Brno 581 semi(made in 1961,forerunner to CZ511).If I could only have one .22 the 452 would be the only choice,reliable & capable of 3/8" accuracy @ 50yds with the right ammo once trigger is sorted.Brno 581 is fun but not as accurate(3/4" Win subs,1/2" RWS HV @ 50yds) more than good enough for my needs.The 452 was accurate from the box & improved with trigger kit,581 despite sellers claims needed a lot of fettling to get it accurate and to cycle reliably,it still only shoots well with Win subs or RWS HV but I really enjoy shooting it. Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 That will be because it is not set up for subs mate, not sure about the 581 but the 511 has a model called the subsonic which is designed to shoot subs only, you can order a standard spec spring from the states if you wish to shoot hv, and apparently if you replace the heavy 511 trigger spring with a ruger 10/22 one it lightens the trigger up nicely. Quote Link to post
lee8375dogs 9 Posted November 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 I have a .17hmr now and most prob are going down the cz path for my .22 I had a look at a ruger and a savage .22 and the quality just wasnt there they really looked cheap and nasty I personally think cz quality is heights above other guns in its price range and are accurate 1 Quote Link to post
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