Goldfinch Types

[Shamo 319]

 

gnasher i have a hen ya can have, this years young one and i might have a spare cock, know better next week when sort them out ya can have them but you will have to collect or send a courier for them pal

Stone me thats very decent of you chief,i certainly couldnt take them with nothing coming back your way but the offer is certainly appreciated thankyou.......im looking at some saturday morning if nothing comes of it i,ll maybe have a trot over your way.....you sound a goodun Taz....and Fireman as usual your advice is invaluable

 

Just so ive got it right.....if a bird hasnt got either of those rings is it an illegal bird ?.... is there any reason the ioa or bbc wouldnt issue them ?...in other words,theres no excuse of any sort i should listen to for reasons not to have them ?

 

You can be 'gifted' (given free and not swapped for anything, total gift) Birds without Rings on, BUT YOU would need to be able to show they were bred in captivity, if you had a visit. There are guys out there who do not bother Ringing, but have a few generations in their flights, so the validity of their unrung Birds is OK.

My advice? BUY Birds with Rings on from a guy who writes out pedigrees AND go with someone who can check the Rings for you, not just what Letters are on there. Plenty of Birds around with the 'correct' Rings on them, bought for good money, which wouldn't pass the 'Quisling' Catons inspection!

[fireman 10,917]

I was going to say about legal un rung birds but seeing as it's Gnasher's first time with natives i thought i'd keep it simple as it were with my advise,a subject for another thread is what i thought rather than clouding the water on this one .

[KittleRox 2,147]

Natives come in the best colour there is.........................Natural and it's only the northern/siberian/sibo's that come in mutations,,The northern birds (there all the same just with different names) are easy to keep but they don't like the damp so are better off indoors really but plenty of folk do keep them outside in the UK,one thing is if these birds are from belgium or holland or really any country from europe then chances are there drug dependant and unless you carry on giving them drugs then your'll find your £200+ bird on the floor of your cage with it's feet pointing up.The prices for these northern birds goes up to £1000's but why folk ever want to change the colour on perfection is well beyond me anyway and those white birds allways look missing something imo,a pair of goldies will do you well Gnasher and the cock will serve a good few canary hens as well as his own hen so your'll get some mules at the same time as pure goldie young.They are easy enough to sex generaly and here's some pics of a cock i have and the bits to look out for

the red carries past the eye underneath it where as a hen it'll stop either before or on the eye and it'll have patches on the back of it's head rather than the complete black this bird has,the nostril hairs are also black and they are brown on a hen

The wing butts(the bit between shoulder and elbow)although a little brown are mainly black and on a hen they are a lot more brown.

As for rings just check there round and not out of shape or stretched and the year is written on them so your'll know the age of them as well.

A grand choice of bird for sure Gnasher and best of luck.

Great Post

[gnasher16 30,121]

cheers fireman for ya comment gnasher the offer is there if ya know anyone going to stafford ill be going so you could have them collected or buy the ones sat its up to you mate

 

Ive decided against these birds im supposed to be seeing tomorrow so Taz if ok with you i,ll private message you and we,ll make some arrangements i,ll fit in around you of course ..........you are not exactly up the road but experience tells me its worth going the extra mile for quality and the peace of mind to deal with good people rather than taking a chance on a stranger just because he,s close by !.......So thankyou once again.

[gnasher16 30,121]

I was going to say about legal un rung birds but seeing as it's Gnasher's first time with natives i thought i'd keep it simple as it were with my advise,a subject for another thread is what i thought rather than clouding the water on this one .

 

Must admit it sounds a bit of a complicated little carry on id rather keep it simple and be as safe as possible whatever it takes

[taz2010 1,297]

no pron gnasher all my bird are bbc rung as ive bred these for 14 years now and had great success

[Shamo 319]

 

I was going to say about legal un rung birds but seeing as it's Gnasher's first time with natives i thought i'd keep it simple as it were with my advise,a subject for another thread is what i thought rather than clouding the water on this one .

Must admit it sounds a bit of a complicated little carry on id rather keep it simple and be as safe as possible whatever it takes

 

Part of what I was saying was...HAVE THE RINGS CHECKED PROPERLY, RINGS CAN BE A MINE FIELD TOO! Meeting in a Layby is something which happens very often, with little or no experience of checking Rings, you will get bit a lot of times.

[christian71 3,187]

 

cheers fireman for ya comment gnasher the offer is there if ya know anyone going to stafford ill be going so you could have them collected or buy the ones sat its up to you mate

 

Ive decided against these birds im supposed to be seeing tomorrow so Taz if ok with you i,ll private message you and we,ll make some arrangements i,ll fit in around you of course ..........you are not exactly up the road but experience tells me its worth going the extra mile for quality and the peace of mind to deal with good people rather than taking a chance on a stranger just because he,s close by !.......So thankyou once again.

 

Taz2010 is a top man knasher

[taz2010 1,297]

cheers christian