redcharge 378 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 deony wilder vs fury 8th of feb what ya reckom Wilder not the best boxer to wild but will hammer fury Not sure about that one.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redcharge 378 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 My shoulders fooked, rotator Cuff and Tendons tore nearly thru. Believe me the last 5 months iv hardly had a full nights sleep. Its at the point now where im going to ask for a cortisone inj And the only thing that will repair it is a Op. At this moment i just dont fancy been strapped up for months. Haye was in a No Win Step thru the ring Injured and your accused of ripping the fans off for 5 mill Pull out and your gutless. Facts are you cant compete at that level with serious injuries. These injuries can be picked up at anytime from 30-35 plus Chisora v Price Wilder v Fury Winners and loosers to face each other says me. Be a brilliant series of fights if a promoter could make it happen, I wouldn't hold my breath though..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nans pat 2,575 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 think they should throw joshua in at the deep end.he beat fury or price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MIK 4,756 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 have to agree with Max if you are seriously injured theres nothing you can do about it ....when your at that level in any sport one thing your not is a bottler 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,063 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 ..when your at that level in any sport one thing your not is a bottler Only a non competitor or somebody completely naive to competetive sport could possibly think a sportsman can reach the pinnacle of his sport by being " a bottler "........ There wont be any sort of " play off " type thing theres more than just British heavyweights in the queue.............some of the fighters are only where they are today due to how poor the division is so it wont hurt for some of them to start mixing it with each other rather than holding on for the one big pay day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,568 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Nothing to do with this thread , but I,v just watched Foreman v Lyle on utube again , I forgot what a good old fashioned heavyweight punch up was like ,,give it a look . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,063 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Now put Holmes/Shavers on 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,568 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) I have many times Gnash , I,v spoken to Ernie Shavers a few times and he still cant believe Holmes got up , neither can I I,v just realised that could sound like he is my mate or something , He worked on a door by me and I used to do the fan chat thing with him . Edited November 19, 2013 by Astanley Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 My shoulders fooked, rotator Cuff and Tendons tore nearly thru. Believe me the last 5 months iv hardly had a full nights sleep. Its at the point now where im going to ask for a cortisone inj And the only thing that will repair it is a Op. At this moment i just dont fancy been strapped up for months. Haye was in a No Win Step thru the ring Injured and your accused of ripping the fans off for 5 mill Pull out and your gutless. Facts are you cant compete at that level with serious injuries. These injuries can be picked up at anytime from 30-35 plus Chisora v Price Wilder v Fury Winners and loosers to face each other says me. max ive always agreed with and supported you and your posts on here especially your political views .but i gotta disagree here mate .ive had two rotator cuff repairs on my shoulders and also a two inch piece of bone removed of my shoulder .its all down to wear and tear .ive over the years mate prob had in excess of fifty cortisone injections in my shoulders .theres nothing to the ops mate maximum week lay up before you go back to work .the ops last prob hour half hour down stairs [BANNED TEXT] you go in and under half hour in recovery and back on the ward .open heart surgery dont last five hours like haye suggests his op lasted .hes the one thats posted this pics of himself in a hospital bed and says the docs have advised him .to pack it in .if his shoulder was as bad as he suggested mate he wouldnt have trained like he suggested he did in his utube clips climbing ropes etc as you well know when you suffer shoulder probs like i have since a youngster any thing to chest height isnt to bad its when you rotate your shoulders to raise your hands above head height is the killer .im 56 yrs old mate and have worked hard manually all my life haye is a bigger stronger man than myself but hes never in his lifetime grafted like i have and his shoulders havent had the wear and tear mine have. but ive always [BANNED TEXT] my ops gone to work until a few years ago i trained regular in the gym and weights etc .haye is bluffing mate shoulder ops are bread and butter surgery to any orthopaedic consultant worth his salt .especially in londons harley street its a two day stint in hospital at most and back in ten days for a few clips out .and a couple of grand if you go private .haye goes to germany ffs of all places and he forgets though in his desperation to lie his way out of this fight .that hes wanted in germany for questioning over that set up farce with chisawra he slipped out the country before the old bill over there could question him there .dont be conned by this weasel max .theres joe public out there have bought tickets of punters for in excess of two grand to have watched this fight and have lost that money now . i said to hughie two weeks ago haye wont show for this ty fight with ty ,and i was right , the scratch over his eye to opt out the first fight was made to look much worse than it was for the cameras .hes a disgrace to boxing his winning of the world title couldnt have been made any easier for him if you give it some serious thought nor the defenses of it .Tys camp wont have any more dealings with haye or his trainer they are history . tys more than willing to fight deontay and very capable of beating deontay . Deontay is a big strong fighter with a lot of power ,but hes also had a very easy path with his 30 fight career .hes a very aggressive fighter who comes in wide open with both arms swinging hayemakers hes been knocked out a few times in the amateurs and has also been floored as a pro so if it comes of its going to be a cracker BUT its a fight that tys very capable of winning and hes very confident he would win it as well .but thats up to the match makers hes going to in the new year fight for the world title so maybe a wilder fight might be after his tilt at a world title who knows .hes not interested in price and chisawra hes already beaten chisawra and hes improved ten fold since beating chisawra .price has been knocked out twice in his last two fights so hes out of the frame for the time being .although hughie has put challenges out to price and the bloke that knocked him out twice .they both declined .There will though be some good news coming soon 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 think they should throw joshua in at the deep end.he beat fury or price. which fury .john or peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Suzy Ross 236 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I have many times Gnash , I,v spoken to Ernie Shavers a few times and he still cant believe Holmes got up , neither can I I,v just realised that could sound like he is my mate or something , He worked on a door by me and I used to do the fan chat thing with him . It's ok Stan, we already guessed that 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marky b 309 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Just read that price is unsure about fighting chisora said he needs a couple of warm up fights first which isn't a good sign I think he should go for it shit or bust he ain't getting any younger and a win would put him back in the picture Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 My shoulders fooked, rotator Cuff and Tendons tore nearly thru. Believe me the last 5 months iv hardly had a full nights sleep. Its at the point now where im going to ask for a cortisone inj And the only thing that will repair it is a Op. At this moment i just dont fancy been strapped up for months. Haye was in a No Win Step thru the ring Injured and your accused of ripping the fans off for 5 mill Pull out and your gutless. Facts are you cant compete at that level with serious injuries. These injuries can be picked up at anytime from 30-35 plus Chisora v Price Wilder v Fury Winners and loosers to face each other says me. max had the same thing cortisone did feck all for me I`m waiting on a date for a scan looks like I`ve snapped a tendon they`ve spent 2 year treating me for rotator cuff ---the latest physio I went to see refused to treat me and its him that's pushed for the hospital referral -- I`ve learnt to live with it but like you say sleeping a twat washing your hair and even reaching into your back pocket cause you pain --- I`ve been humping furniture around and getting by but feck its painfull it causes me to have a stiff neck and back pain trying to work round it ----don't know what the success rate of the op is but I`ve been told even with surgery the movement could be limited to 65% so just have to wait and see and keep popping the pain killers ----if that's hayes problem you can see why he wont box again.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
antg 1,767 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 seems its one excuse after the other with Haye. TF should just move on now and look at the bigger picture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 seems its one excuse after the other with Haye. TF should just move on now and look at the bigger picture. I feel a bit bit sorry for fury he`s put the training in and its come to nothing wasted time and missed opportunities -- time for him to move on a get the show back on the road --forget haye and all that goes with him ,,,, 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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