Badger Cull Protesters To Target Shoots

[paulus 26]

Some pish spouted on this thread for sure same old shite about shooters not supporting the dogmen we'll I can remember plenty of dogmen staying at home instead of marching plenty did exactly f**k all to be precise they just muttered "f**k the ban"and hoped it wouldn't happen mostly there the first to shout that no one supported them the great down trodden.

 

Shooting being priced out of the market lol I dont think so when these guys have to sell their purdys and hollands cause moneys a bit tight then I'll start to worry

my littlewoods purchased russian purdey is going nowhere

[danw 1,748]

Lol @ paulus

[danw 1,748]

 

 

I agree, perhaps the shooters and anglers should have thought about that when we were up against the wall

 

Rightly, or wrongly, because of that we're no longer a fieldsports community.

 

We're a collection of disciplines being picked off by a political agenda.

 

I don't blame anyone for thinking that way, but while we all point the finger we lose something that the antis do have...

 

Unity.

100%, i have always said that the antis have there house in order, where as we don't.

lol truth be known if the antis where anywhere near organized they would be dangerous but they are like headless chickens youve only to see the pathetic attempts at stopping the badger cull to realise that

[paulus 26]

 

 

 

I agree, perhaps the shooters and anglers should have thought about that when we were up against the wall

Rightly, or wrongly, because of that we're no longer a fieldsports community.

 

We're a collection of disciplines being picked off by a political agenda.

 

I don't blame anyone for thinking that way, but while we all point the finger we lose something that the antis do have...

 

Unity.

100%, i have always said that the antis have there house in order, where as we don't.

lol truth be known if the antis where anywhere near organized they would be dangerous but they are like headless chickens youve only to see the pathetic attempts at stopping the badger cull to realise that

 

theres reasons their attempts to disrupt the cull have been limited

[Nik_B 3,790]

I'll bet if the DHSS turned up to check if they are available for work they'd all ship off back to their filthy little bedsits sharpish lol

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

I'll bet if the DHSS turned up to check if they are available for work they'd all ship off back to their filthy little bedsits sharpish lol

most of them are junkies anyway, and prob on the dla. they feel insulted that theyre expected to work for a living and most expect to be paid 300 a week for being protesters, they feel theyr superior beings and beyond the relm of manual work in the land of acid atlantis

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Hunting was not banned coursing WAS. Hunting carries on you know it i know it and even the antis now it why are theythrowing money down the drain. Why has lacs sold its assets , In reality antis are not very well organised quite ram shackle actually. , Any very easy to deal with as we have proved on many occasions but will not go into that on here , Any way am late for the meet hark forard !!!!!!!

[Nik_B 3,790]

 

I'll bet if the DHSS turned up to check if they are available for work they'd all ship off back to their filthy little bedsits sharpish lol

most of them are junkies anyway, and prob on the dla. they feel insulted that theyre expected to work for a living and most expect to be paid 300 a week for being protesters, they feel theyr superior beings and beyond the relm of manual work in the land of acid atlantis

 

 

Maybe they could make it a condition for them to wash under their armpits every now and then. I also doubt their little 2" tube like arms would be capable of manual work

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Shooting being priced out of the market lol I dont think so when these guys have to sell their purdys and hollands cause moneys a bit tight then I'll start to worry

 

To the extremely rich cost prohibition is at a threshold that most of us can't fathom. Purdey's and Holland's cost more than the houses most of us live in. They'll never stop. They'll go abroad.

 

lol truth be known if the antis where anywhere near organized they would be dangerous but they are like headless chickens youve only to see the pathetic attempts at stopping the badger cull to realise that

 

But they're still shooting at the same target. We're still arguing the semantics. Divide and rule, etc, etc, etc...

 

The badger cull is government sanctioned. Trespass on any shoot will shut it down.

 

Hunting was not banned coursing WAS. Hunting carries on you know it i know it and even the antis now it why are theythrowing money down the drain. Why has lacs sold its assets , In reality antis are not very well organised quite ram shackle actually. , Any very easy to deal with as we have proved on many occasions but will not go into that on here , Any way am late for the meet hark forard !!!!!!!

 

I'm agreeing with you that hunting carries on. Never disputed that, but using a dog to catch anything other than rat, or rabbit, is illegal in England. Link Printed On The THL Lurcher Section

 

If they even consider repealing it everyone should immediately by lottery tickets!

 

Luckily the law is so badly written that enforcing it is bordering on the impossible. Shooting is somewhere between draconian and totalitarian.

Edited November 16, 2013 by ChrisJones

[gonetoearth 5,144]

 

Shooting being priced out of the market lol I dont think so when these guys have to sell their purdys and hollands cause moneys a bit tight then I'll start to worry

To the extremely rich cost prohibition is at a threshold that most of us can't fathom. Purdey's and Holland's cost more than the houses most of us live in. They'll never stop. They'll go abroad.

 

lol truth be known if the antis where anywhere near organized they would be dangerous but they are like headless chickens youve only to see the pathetic attempts at stopping the badger cull to realise that

But they're still shooting at the same target. We're still arguing the semantics. Divide and rule, etc, etc, etc...

 

The badger cull is government sanctioned. Trespass on any shoot will shut it down. How

 

Hunting was not banned coursing WAS. Hunting carries on you know it i know it and even the antis now it why are theythrowing money down the drain. Why has lacs sold its assets , In reality antis are not very well organised quite ram shackle actually. , Any very easy to deal with as we have proved on many occasions but will not go into that on here , Any way am late for the meet hark forard !!!!!!!

I'm agreeing with you that hunting carries on. Never disputed that, but using a dog to catch anything other than rat, or rabbit, is illegal in England. Link Printed On The THL Lurcher Section. So is drink driving , using a mobile phone. While driving. Dont seem to stop them either

 

If they even consider repealing it everyone should immediately by lottery tickets! lol dont know much do you mr jones

 

Luckily the law is so badly written that enforcing it is bordering on the impossible. Shooting is somewhere between draconian and totalitarian.

. Driven and rough shooting will never be banned. In the uk

[ChrisJones 7,975]

I hope you're right.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

I hope you're right.

. Hope. Is not in my vocabulary , nor is he the notion to stop hunting shooting or fishing , it is my right and my culture

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Agreed. But we're arguing semantics again. Stopping it and making it illegal are completely different entities.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Who will ban shooting labour lol. The tories , Nick clegg , dream on. As ive said it is not coursing Its an integral. Part of the uk economy your Housing analogy bears no substance be realistic the scruffs lacs that is peaked pre ban they are on the decline the few are getting fewer while hunting and shooting and fishing gains popularity. To bring up the beaters being taxed like it going to bring down shooting lol. , like ive said the antis pick on easy targets make them secure they thnk twice , in conclusion Wake me when you have cast iron evidence and we will resume are discussion

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Who will ban shooting? Not sure.

 

Who will make shooting so difficult to pursue, that people won't bother? Take your pick. Theresa May is already toying with the idea of changing the firearms laws, to consult current, or previous, partners of someone applying for an FAC/SGC. If that does come to pass your spouse, or your ex, could have a veto on whether the crown approves your application to own/possess a firearm. Will that make shooting easier, or not?

 

Beater's Tax isn't going to bring down shooting. Never said that it would but it's a step along the way. Another bureaucratic speedbump to impede our civil rights. Should beaters be taxed? F*ck no. Will it stop people wanting to be beaters? Only time will tell if it has any effect. Is it a stepping stone to make beating more difficult. You bet your arse it is. Why would any reasonable person tax a beater? They wouldn't, but the point here is that Westminster isn't staffed by reasonable people.

 

Antis aren't just balaclava wearing f*ckwits, running around fields. They live and reside in normal houses. Have normal jobs, socialise in normal ways. There is also a lot of them elected at Westminster. Everytime some clown with a gun, acts like a prick, they start to tinker with the existing gun laws. Like Ms May above.

 

This isn't a case of "Oh F*ck! Let's Knee-Jerk Ban Everything Immediately" like after Hungerford, Dunblane, and Cumbria. This is a steady errosion of existing legislation. Like Britain's Violent Crime Reduction Bill, or the attempt on licensing airguns in Scotland. Even Royal Mail's recent refusal to handle firearms, or even their parts. This is a steady drip. It's continual and it's designed to make it just a little more difficult knowing that your average subject just cannot be bother pushing it any further.

 

Cast iron evidence? Probably not enough to appease you but here is the link to the Firearm Certificate Statistics, Scotland 2012.

 

As I said, earlier in the thread, there has been a 10 year decline in FAC/SGC applications, in Scotland. I currently don't have the data for England and Wales.

 

I also said that the number of firearms held has increased. Meaning that fewer people have tickets, but those fewer people have more guns on those tickets.

 

If fewer people, year after year, are applying for FAC/SGC then what is the trend telling us? Interest is on the decline based on the current data. If more and more people are taking up shooting then why isn't this reflected in the recorded data of FAC/SGC applications, for the last 10 years?

 

We can go round, and around, in circles here.

 

You believe it won't happen. I believe it can, if we let them.

 

I genuinely believe that if you leave our civil rights, in the hands of Westminster, then they will gradually remove them, step by step. It has happened before. It's happening now, and will continue to happen in the future.

 

At this point I'll conclude by saying that I sincerely, genuinely, and honestly, hope you're right in everything that you've said. However history leads me to tread cautiously before I can accept what you've said at face.

Edited November 17, 2013 by ChrisJones