gonetoearth 5,144 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Their response is let the law take its cause. That artical is old Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) . Bollocks Yeah! They said that about hunting too. Done much [PREBAN] work lately? They will never ban DRIVEN game shooting They will call for stricter rearing guidelines. , Stealth ban. They'll make it so difficult to do that most of the apathists, in this country, will say "f**k It, What's The Point?" They're already making beaters pay tax! Trying pointing your matched pair of Purdey's, at someone f*****g up the shoot. Good luck keeping your SGC. We point the finger at each other and say "F**k You, You Didn't Stand With Me So I Won't Stand With You" "F**k The Hunters" "F**k The Anglers" "F**k The Shooters" It amazes me that after 10 years, and 400,000 people marching we still have our heads buried in the sand! I have some fantastic knitting needles. Line bred. Pikachu lines... Edited November 15, 2013 by ChrisJones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,707 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 What the hell is he a doctor of ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) Who has there heads buried in the sand basc lol not on your nelly sunshine the they stole marford mill and created A business biggest Highway robbery since dick was running round. There. Media and legal team are well on the case shooting. Is not the cousing club with. A couple of hundred members. Driven shooting is high end tax and vat income to the tax man. It is not happening. Beaters tax lol. What do you expect some one reports earnings the tax man jumps on it bar staff get taxed on tips. The are more than one way to skin a cat. , have i done any pre ban. lol. Are you for real !!!!!!!! Listern the ban has created A surge in all hunting , its up to people involved to orginise and fight there corner The ca has hundreds of payed staff as does basc While lacs is selling property to survive basc wagbi are buying it , Shooting Will never be banned Edited November 15, 2013 by gonetoearth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 We're do they stay when they come to these areas? That'd be the first thing I'd want to find out,you don't want any conflict were there's firearms around and careers on the line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,495 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 I don't care, I have Cammo-Man shooting beside me tomorrow........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Who has there heads buried in the sand basc lol not on your nelly sunshine the they stole marford mill and created A business biggest Highway robbery since dick was running round. There. Media and legal team are well on the case shooting. Is not the cousing club with. A couple of hundred members. Driven shooting is high end tax and vat income to the tax man. It is not happening. Beaters tax lol. What do you expect some one reports earnings the tax man jumps on it bar staff get taxed on tips. The are more than one way to skin a cat. , have i done any pre ban. lol. Are you for real !!!!!!!! Listern the ban has created A surge in all hunting , its up to people involved to orginise and fight there corner The ca has hundreds of payed staff as does basc While lacs is selling property to survive basc wagbi are buying it , Shooting Will never be banned I was fortunate enough to stand with 399,999 others at the Liberty & Livelihood march back in 2002. It's funny, I remember that, because there were a lot of people there saying the same thing about hunting with hounds! About how it would damage the rural economy and if they dare to go through with it they'll boot Bliar out of office! Same old rhetoric! Shooting can be saved but to say it will never be banned is just ridiculous. A stealth ban is where it's made so cost prohibitive that people will give up. The same way that changes to the SGC have seen a decline in people applying for them. They don't give a flying f**k about how much money shooting makes, if they can resource the land for housing and make 10 times as much in council tax! For the record I don't want to see any of it go. Least of all the fieldsports community which is fragmented and getting picked off. But any victory is temporary. Defeat is permanent. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 were l doomed and badgers will take over the earth led by bri the badger pedo may. fcuk it wheres the yanks im going to live over there with them. hunt what ya want Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Who has there heads buried in the sand basc lol not on your nelly sunshine the they stole marford mill and created A business biggest Highway robbery since dick was running round. There. Media and legal team are well on the case shooting. Is not the cousing club with. A couple of hundred members. Driven shooting is high end tax and vat income to the tax man. It is not happening. Beaters tax lol. What do you expect some one reports earnings the tax man jumps on it bar staff get taxed on tips. The are more than one way to skin a cat. , have i done any pre ban. lol. Are you for real !!!!!!!! Listern the ban has created A surge in all hunting , its up to people involved to orginise and fight there corner The ca has hundreds of payed staff as does basc While lacs is selling property to survive basc wagbi are buying it , Shooting Will never be banned . I was fortunate enough to stand with 399,999 others at the Liberty & Livelihood march back in 2002. It's funny, I remember that, because there were a lot of people there saying the same thing about hunting with hounds! About how it would damage the rural economy and if they dare to go through with it they'll boot Bliar out of office! Same old rhetoric! Shooting can be saved but to say it will never be banned is just ridiculous. A stealth ban is where it's made so cost prohibitive that people will give up. The same way that changes to the SGC have seen a decline in people applying for them. They don't give a flying f**k about how much money shooting makes, if they can resource the land for housing and make 10 times as much in council tax! . For the record I don't want to see any of it go. Least of all the fieldsports community which is fragmented and getting picked off. But any victory is temporary. Defeat is permanent. . Yeh and the pen is mighter than the sword depending whos hands its in , Shot gun application are at an all time high were do you get your info from. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Cost prohibitive lol. Your answering your own question. Over seas. Coin took over grouse and top shoots years ago have you been Asleep. There are major shoots with five days a week booked all season. More birds released. And reard than ever , Mr jones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) . Yeh and the pen is mighter than the sword depending whos hands its in , Shot gun application are at an all time high were do you get your info from. Shooting times on the shotgun applications. BBC article stated that in Scotland firearm/shotgun applications were at a 10 year low but the number of firearms held is higher. I'll try and link to them if I can find them but it's been a while since I read them. Cost prohibitive lol. Your answering your own question. Over seas. Coin took over grouse and top shoots years ago have you been Asleep. There are major shoots with five days a week booked all season. More birds released. And reard than ever , Mr jones I never asked a question. I'm saying that if you think that shooting will never be banned you've got your head buried in the sand. Cost prohibitive means that regulation and bureaucracy makes it so damn expensive, and time consuming, that people won't be bothered doing it in the first place. Britain has an amazing pedigree in apathy, and it can be seen all around us. Again the data from Scotland shows that there is a decline in FAC/SGC applications over the last 10 years. I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying, with regard to the current numbers, of driven shoots. You're absolutely, utterly, and irrefutably, right on the numbers of birds being released. I also agree that there have been more people hunting, with dogs, over the last 10 years but it didn't stop them banning that either. From my perspective there shouldn't be a law that removes an inalienable right. That is the right to hunt. If we all argued that it's a right, from the beginning, instead of categorizing ourselves into our respective disciplines then we may have faired a little better. However, for hunting with hounds, it was too little too late. We can argue statistics backwards, and forewards, but it's still the infighting in the fieldsports community that I was trying to highlight in the first place. Thanks for backing me up on that. However, the point still remains that at whatever point our Westminster overlords decide they don't want to do it anymore, they will stop it. Same way they got rid of semi automatic firearms in the 80's, and handguns in the 90's, and now pushing for air rifles, since '06. It's working too. A gradual stealth ban. Edited November 15, 2013 by ChrisJones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jf1970 328 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 I agree, perhaps the shooters and anglers should have thought about that when we were up against the wall Rightly, or wrongly, because of that we're no longer a fieldsports community. We're a collection of disciplines being picked off by a political agenda. I don't blame anyone for thinking that way, but while we all point the finger we lose something that the antis do have... Unity. 100%, i have always said that the antis have there house in order, where as we don't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 100%, i have always said that the antis have there house in order, where as we don't. That's what I was getting at before the fallout! Even though they're outnumbered they're all shooting at the same target. It only takes one balaclava to shut down an entire shoot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huan72 687 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Lets be honest..................we don't really help ourselves.................politicians need votes and will do whatever is required to keep them or get more and the general publics perception of hunting is not good which makes it a target for the politicians. The publics perception on hunting is created by the media and interested organisations in all there forms, both anti hunting and pro hunting, its just that the anti hunting people do a far better job of relaying their message to the public...................now i'll get to the point, some of the posts put up on this very site are absolutely shocking, showing a total lack of respect for the prey, our dogs or wildlife in general.........................its essential to remember that the fight for the right to hunt, starts with the individual and if you want the rights, you have to show the responsibility. If people carry on ignoring the fact that like it or not, the publics perception of there activities really does matter, they will only have themselves to blame when hunting for UFO's is the only socially acceptable form of hunting at all 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danw 1,748 Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Some pish spouted on this thread for sure same old shite about shooters not supporting the dogmen we'll I can remember plenty of dogmen staying at home instead of marching plenty did exactly f**k all to be precise they just muttered "f**k the ban"and hoped it wouldn't happen mostly there the first to shout that no one supported them the great down trodden. Shooting being priced out of the market lol I dont think so when these guys have to sell their purdys and hollands cause moneys a bit tight then I'll start to worry 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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