paulus 26 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 every news report is been pissing it down, how is it possible to be short of water no food but the roads are clear and full of motorbikes and cars, obviously petrol is easy to find but not food The roofs that were blown of were mainly corrugated tin affairs why don't they put them back on maybe its just me but it all seems strange when compared to the asian tsunami maybe its just how the reports show things, What's strange about thousands of people dead, sticking the roof back up maybe the least of the family's worries that are coping with loss..... the dead are dead mate, living is what those left will be concentrating on the basics of food water and shelter would be a top priority Mate that town was wiped out! & you're talking about why people can't get things sorted....if it was a town in Wales that lost 10,000 would you be saying they've got plenty of rain water to get by.......I think not it was not wiped out it was trashed and an unknown as of yet percentage sadly died, if you had no water then obtaining water would be high on your priorities within a very short space of time as would food and shelter no matter how bad things were, Oh ok....they should be fine then....I don't know what all the fuss is about.....I'm sure you would have the same attitude if it happened in Wales....... water would not be an issue in wales as it never stops raining Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) every news report is been pissing it down, how is it possible to be short of water no food but the roads are clear and full of motorbikes and cars, obviously petrol is easy to find but not food The roofs that were blown of were mainly corrugated tin affairs why don't they put them back on maybe its just me but it all seems strange when compared to the asian tsunami maybe its just how the reports show things, What's strange about thousands of people dead, sticking the roof back up maybe the least of the family's worries that are coping with loss.....the dead are dead mate, living is what those left will be concentrating on the basics of food water and shelter would be a top priorityMate that town was wiped out! & you're talking about why people can't get things sorted....if it was a town in Wales that lost 10,000 would you be saying they've got plenty of rain water to get by.......I think notit was not wiped out it was trashed and an unknown as of yet percentage sadly died, if you had no water then obtaining water would be high on your priorities within a very short space of time as would food and shelter no matter how bad things were,Oh ok....they should be fine then....I don't know what all the fuss is about.....I'm sure you would have the same attitude if it happened in Wales....... water would not be an issue in wales as it never stops raining So you would just recommend to put the buckets out in the valleys.....no other help for what's left from 10000 dead... Edited November 15, 2013 by Accip74 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 maybe its because all the reports are coming from one city, i hope the death toll is over estimated but fear it will be higher than estimated once the true scale is assesed Possibly. It's still way too early in the day, to know exactly. There are still disasters, from years gone, that don't have accurate numbers. They probably never will. The people on the ground will still be in shock. Again it's easy to criticize when we see 30 second news clips, from first world journos. They're behaving exactly the same as I'd expect anyone, under the circumstances. The people on the ground panic and try to fix the problem, while the vultures circle from the comfort of their ivory towers. It would be the same here. Like the summer riots. Everyone outside of the UK looked down on us like a bunch if savages. You only have to take away the water, food, and the electric, for a couple of days and we're in the same boat. Only we've lost complete touch with the land, and how to use it. Unlike the Filipinos. At a time like this I can only hope it's not as bad as estimated. Be glad that I can hunt and fish. Then carefully remind everyone that when the lights go out you can't eat an iPad. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 maybe its because all the reports are coming from one city, i hope the death toll is over estimated but fear it will be higher than estimated once the true scale is assesed Possibly. It's still way too early in the day, to know exactly. There are still disasters, from years gone, that don't have accurate numbers. They probably never will. The people on the ground will still be in shock. Again it's easy to criticize when we see 30 second news clips, from first world journos. They're behaving exactly the same as I'd expect anyone, under the circumstances. The people on the ground panic and try to fix the problem, while the vultures circle from the comfort of their ivory towers. It would be the same here. Like the summer riots. Everyone outside of the UK looked down on us like a bunch if savages. You only have to take away the water, food, and the electric, for a couple of days and we're in the same boat. Only we've lost complete touch with the land, and how to use it. Unlike the Filipinos. At a time like this I can only hope it's not as bad as estimated. Be glad that I can hunt and fish. Then carefully remind everyone that when the lights go out you can't eat an iPad. i once thought doomsdayers were nuts but over recent years my thoughts have been changing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 every news report is been pissing it down, how is it possible to be short of water no food but the roads are clear and full of motorbikes and cars, obviously petrol is easy to find but not food The roofs that were blown of were mainly corrugated tin affairs why don't they put them back on maybe its just me but it all seems strange when compared to the asian tsunami maybe its just how the reports show things,What's strange about thousands of people dead, sticking the roof back up maybe the least of the family's worries that are coping with loss.....the dead are dead mate, living is what those left will be concentrating on the basics of food water and shelter would be a top priorityMate that town was wiped out! & you're talking about why people can't get things sorted....if it was a town in Wales that lost 10,000 would you be saying they've got plenty of rain water to get by.......I think notit was not wiped out it was trashed and an unknown as of yet percentage sadly died, if you had no water then obtaining water would be high on your priorities within a very short space of time as would food and shelter no matter how bad things were,Oh ok....they should be fine then....I don't know what all the fuss is about.....I'm sure you would have the same attitude if it happened in Wales.......water would not be an issue in wales as it never stops rainingSo you would just recommend to put the buckets out in the valleys.....no other help for what's left from 10000 dead... its still not definite thats the real figure however you can only save the living and until relief arrives at a level to make a difference then survival would be the major concern Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 i once thought doomsdayers were nuts but over recent years my thoughts have been changing I hear ya there, mate. The thing is we don't have to fall to shit. We all grew up with generations of doomsday survivalists. Only we called them parents and grandparents. On a side note. To another post in this thread. With all the water in Wales. From the sky to the ground. How many kids today would know how to filter, and boil it, to make it safe to drink? Not a difficult skill but one that involves thinking of something other than turning on the tap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 i once thought doomsdayers were nuts but over recent years my thoughts have been changing I hear ya there, mate. The thing is we don't have to fall to shit. We all grew up with generations of doomsday survivalists. Only we called them parents and grandparents. On a side note. To another post in this thread. With all the water in Wales. From the sky to the ground. How many kids today would know how to filter, and boil it, to make it safe to drink? Not a difficult skill but one that involves thinking of something other than turning on the tap. or asking for a bottle full Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 or asking for a bottle full LOL yeah! More likely to hear "I've Got An App For That." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 every news report is been pissing it down, how is it possible to be short of water no food but the roads are clear and full of motorbikes and cars, obviously petrol is easy to find but not food The roofs that were blown of were mainly corrugated tin affairs why don't they put them back on maybe its just me but it all seems strange when compared to the asian tsunami maybe its just how the reports show things, What's strange about thousands of people dead, sticking the roof back up maybe the least of the family's worries that are coping with loss.....the dead are dead mate, living is what those left will be concentrating on the basics of food water and shelter would be a top priorityMate that town was wiped out! & you're talking about why people can't get things sorted....if it was a town in Wales that lost 10,000 would you be saying they've got plenty of rain water to get by.......I think notit was not wiped out it was trashed and an unknown as of yet percentage sadly died, if you had no water then obtaining water would be high on your priorities within a very short space of time as would food and shelter no matter how bad things were,Oh ok....they should be fine then....I don't know what all the fuss is about.....I'm sure you would have the same attitude if it happened in Wales.......water would not be an issue in wales as it never stops rainingSo you would just recommend to put the buckets out in the valleys.....no other help for what's left from 10000 dead... its still not definite thats the real figure however you can only save the living and until relief arrives at a level to make a difference then survival would be the major concern You are avoiding the question just like a politician. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 every news report is been pissing it down, how is it possible to be short of water no food but the roads are clear and full of motorbikes and cars, obviously petrol is easy to find but not food The roofs that were blown of were mainly corrugated tin affairs why don't they put them back on maybe its just me but it all seems strange when compared to the asian tsunami maybe its just how the reports show things,What's strange about thousands of people dead, sticking the roof back up maybe the least of the family's worries that are coping with loss.....the dead are dead mate, living is what those left will be concentrating on the basics of food water and shelter would be a top priorityMate that town was wiped out! & you're talking about why people can't get things sorted....if it was a town in Wales that lost 10,000 would you be saying they've got plenty of rain water to get by.......I think notit was not wiped out it was trashed and an unknown as of yet percentage sadly died, if you had no water then obtaining water would be high on your priorities within a very short space of time as would food and shelter no matter how bad things were,Oh ok....they should be fine then....I don't know what all the fuss is about.....I'm sure you would have the same attitude if it happened in Wales.......water would not be an issue in wales as it never stops rainingSo you would just recommend to put the buckets out in the valleys.....no other help for what's left from 10000 dead...its still not definite thats the real figure however you can only save the living and until relief arrives at a level to make a difference then survival would be the major concern You are avoiding the question just like a politician. earlier in the week BBC news showed a food warehouse being looted but they were just walking away with bags of food like they had just had them off a car boot there was 2 young lads pushing a trolley loaded with bags of rice, it was all very civilized Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 every news report is been pissing it down, how is it possible to be short of water no food but the roads are clear and full of motorbikes and cars, obviously petrol is easy to find but not food The roofs that were blown of were mainly corrugated tin affairs why don't they put them back on maybe its just me but it all seems strange when compared to the asian tsunami maybe its just how the reports show things, What's strange about thousands of people dead, sticking the roof back up maybe the least of the family's worries that are coping with loss..... the dead are dead mate, living is what those left will be concentrating on the basics of food water and shelter would be a top priority Mate that town was wiped out! & you're talking about why people can't get things sorted....if it was a town in Wales that lost 10,000 would you be saying they've got plenty of rain water to get by.......I think not it was not wiped out it was trashed and an unknown as of yet percentage sadly died, if you had no water then obtaining water would be high on your priorities within a very short space of time as would food and shelter no matter how bad things were, Oh ok....they should be fine then....I don't know what all the fuss is about.....I'm sure you would have the same attitude if it happened in Wales....... water would not be an issue in wales as it never stops raining So you would just recommend to put the buckets out in the valleys.....no other help for what's left from 10000 dead... its still not definite thats the real figure however you can only save the living and until relief arrives at a level to make a difference then survival would be the major concern You are avoiding the question just like a politician. earlier in the week BBC news showed a food warehouse being looted but they were just walking away with bags of food like they had just had them off a car boot there was 2 young lads pushing a trolley loaded with bags of rice, it was all very civilized & your point is? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 every news report is been pissing it down, how is it possible to be short of water no food but the roads are clear and full of motorbikes and cars, obviously petrol is easy to find but not food The roofs that were blown of were mainly corrugated tin affairs why don't they put them back on maybe its just me but it all seems strange when compared to the asian tsunami maybe its just how the reports show things, What's strange about thousands of people dead, sticking the roof back up maybe the least of the family's worries that are coping with loss..... the dead are dead mate, living is what those left will be concentrating on the basics of food water and shelter would be a top priority Mate that town was wiped out! & you're talking about why people can't get things sorted....if it was a town in Wales that lost 10,000 would you be saying they've got plenty of rain water to get by.......I think not it was not wiped out it was trashed and an unknown as of yet percentage sadly died, if you had no water then obtaining water would be high on your priorities within a very short space of time as would food and shelter no matter how bad things were, Oh ok....they should be fine then....I don't know what all the fuss is about.....I'm sure you would have the same attitude if it happened in Wales....... water would not be an issue in wales as it never stops raining So you would just recommend to put the buckets out in the valleys.....no other help for what's left from 10000 dead... its still not definite thats the real figure however you can only save the living and until relief arrives at a level to make a difference then survival would be the major concern You are avoiding the question just like a politician. earlier in the week BBC news showed a food warehouse being looted but they were just walking away with bags of food like they had just had them off a car boot there was 2 young lads pushing a trolley loaded with bags of rice, it was all very civilized & your point is? human nature reverts back to basics very quickly when the situation suits Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 every news report is been pissing it down, how is it possible to be short of water no food but the roads are clear and full of motorbikes and cars, obviously petrol is easy to find but not food The roofs that were blown of were mainly corrugated tin affairs why don't they put them back on maybe its just me but it all seems strange when compared to the asian tsunami maybe its just how the reports show things,What's strange about thousands of people dead, sticking the roof back up maybe the least of the family's worries that are coping with loss.....the dead are dead mate, living is what those left will be concentrating on the basics of food water and shelter would be a top priorityMate that town was wiped out! & you're talking about why people can't get things sorted....if it was a town in Wales that lost 10,000 would you be saying they've got plenty of rain water to get by.......I think notit was not wiped out it was trashed and an unknown as of yet percentage sadly died, if you had no water then obtaining water would be high on your priorities within a very short space of time as would food and shelter no matter how bad things were,Oh ok....they should be fine then....I don't know what all the fuss is about.....I'm sure you would have the same attitude if it happened in Wales.......water would not be an issue in wales as it never stops rainingSo you would just recommend to put the buckets out in the valleys.....no other help for what's left from 10000 dead...its still not definite thats the real figure however you can only save the living and until relief arrives at a level to make a difference then survival would be the major concernYou are avoiding the question just like a politician.earlier in the week BBC news showed a food warehouse being looted but they were just walking away with bags of food like they had just had them off a car boot there was 2 young lads pushing a trolley loaded with bags of rice, it was all very civilized& your point is?human nature reverts back to basics very quickly when the situation suits ...but do you think the same would apply to a small valley town in Wales? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 every news report is been pissing it down, how is it possible to be short of water no food but the roads are clear and full of motorbikes and cars, obviously petrol is easy to find but not food The roofs that were blown of were mainly corrugated tin affairs why don't they put them back on maybe its just me but it all seems strange when compared to the asian tsunami maybe its just how the reports show things,What's strange about thousands of people dead, sticking the roof back up maybe the least of the family's worries that are coping with loss.....the dead are dead mate, living is what those left will be concentrating on the basics of food water and shelter would be a top priorityMate that town was wiped out! & you're talking about why people can't get things sorted....if it was a town in Wales that lost 10,000 would you be saying they've got plenty of rain water to get by.......I think notit was not wiped out it was trashed and an unknown as of yet percentage sadly died, if you had no water then obtaining water would be high on your priorities within a very short space of time as would food and shelter no matter how bad things were,Oh ok....they should be fine then....I don't know what all the fuss is about.....I'm sure you would have the same attitude if it happened in Wales.......water would not be an issue in wales as it never stops rainingSo you would just recommend to put the buckets out in the valleys.....no other help for what's left from 10000 dead...its still not definite thats the real figure however you can only save the living and until relief arrives at a level to make a difference then survival would be the major concernYou are avoiding the question just like a politician.earlier in the week BBC news showed a food warehouse being looted but they were just walking away with bags of food like they had just had them off a car boot there was 2 young lads pushing a trolley loaded with bags of rice, it was all very civilized& your point is?human nature reverts back to basics very quickly when the situation suits ...but do you think the same would apply to a small valley town in Wales? you have an unhealthy obsession with wales do you know something we don't Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil82 1,083 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 my thoughts on this are, they live in an area renowned for severe storms, wtf have they not got their own plans and stores ready for when this shit hits them, and why do we allways end up sending millions of pounds to help when this sort of thing occurs, if this happened in wales how much do you think they would send us, and how much is the new space race country (india) sending Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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