rillington terriers

[mancterrierman 1]

what is a rillington terrier? is it bedlington with lakie blood?

[bill88 6]

I'm not 100%,but i think George Newcombe outcrossed his bedlingtons with lakey and i think border blood ?? Although there's people on this forum far more qualified on the subject than me,who will know the answers. He was trying to produce a working/old style bedlington terrier,not the roach backed show rubbish you see today.

 

 

This is the mother of my BeddyxWhippet she's pure Rillington

Hope the lad that owns her doesn't mind me putting the pic up.

 

 

Edited September 10, 2007 by bill88

[Stabs 3]

This is a letter from George Newcombe from October 1990 to the Working Terrier and Running Dog magazine.......

 

"The purpose of my letter is to try to dispose of some of the incorrect misleading statements that have been made, and are still being made about my Rillington strain of Bedlingtons. Not only would action be beneficial to me but also to all the genuine people who won Bedlingtons.

 

Readers of this magazine who also take the shooting News, will recalled that a while ago Brian Plummer wrote an article in Shooting News on the Bedlington whippet lurcher decrying it and stating it had no advantage over a straight bred whippet. Owning as I do, a Bedlington stud dog, which lurchermen use, I can vouch for the fact that a lot of lurchermen still think the Bedlington whippet or Bedlington greyhound cross is unsurpassed as a rabbiting dog. However, it is not my intention to argue the case for lurchermen, as I know they have far more knowledge and ability to do so that I have.

 

What concerns me is that in the same article, he commented on the degeneration of the Bedlington as a breed and stated that even I had been compelled to use a Fell terrier, whose breeding he got completely wrong, the inference being as I saw it, that I had to do this to revive the working ability. Let me say now I have no desire, or intention to use any type of terrier to improve working ability as I do not think it is either necessary or would produce better working ability. I was not compelled to do anything, what I did was make an experiment to try to improve coat and reduce size."

 

Mr. Newcombe then goes on to say.....

 

"From time to time I learn of dogs which are supposed to be of Rillington breeding, I would advise other people who hear the same thing not to take it too literally. There are some that are genuine my breeding and I know where they are, but there are others which have very little of my breeding. The most glaring example of this was a man who tried to sell me a litter of pups which he claimed were Rillington breeding and he included a list of names of my dogs, the pups ancestors. I don't buy pups in but I was curious enough to ask him to send me a pedigree. I found the pups were one quarter my breeding and three quarters show bred! In the past I have made the mistake of not being selective enough in the type or quality of bitches I have allowed to be mated to my stud dogs, and I recall two in particular from a very well know showstrain, that were poor specimens. No stud dog, however good he might be, can work miracles with poor quality bitches but the progeny of such matings is invariably advertised as Rillington strain. I have now decided that the term "to approved bitches only" has to have some real meaning!"

[zap 4]

good read and it shows that Mr. Newcombe cares enough to reply to give his side of things ,it would be nice to here if your ,nuttals ect ever made a reply like this just straightening out about the breeding of there dogs as they seem to have had a fare piece of slating ,like said in the post by stabs i think alot of people will say i have such and such a line in my dog when really there may only be a tiny amount in its breeding ,but this is where alot of you lads on here and lads that keep them selves to them selves are lucky you know what you have weather it has a name or not and with being in the game a good long time know who to trust ,where as the likes of me i dont know who i can trust and then theres the fact thaty i not likely to pick a dog of the same sort of standard as you lads up because you keep them or just give to friends ,i dont blame you for that as you have spent probavbly a good few years getting what you have but i think its not as hard a game to get into if you are taut by the right people and are shown the best tool for the job ,i hope this makes sense

[david2363 42]

George was a top bloke indeed. In the days before the internet, he always replied to letters sent to him regarding Bedlington matters.

 

As for Rillington strain Beddies nowadays, most working stuff have Rillington running throught them, but when you check it out, the amounts of Rillington can be negligable.

 

I went to see quite a few litters of Bedlingtons in the past few years, and very few of them were what they said on the tin.

I went to see one litter of advertised "Rillington Bedlingtons" and as soon as I saw the parents (weak looking, cotton wool coats etc) I smelled the bullshit. After one or two questions I was proved right.

[mancterrierman 1]

thanks alot lads, now i know.