Breaking patts to sheep, horses etc?

[will777 0]

Just wandering how peoples patts are with horses, sheep etc? If your dogs ignore them then any tips appreciated?

Hes only a pup so hoping to get him used to them asap.

 

Thanks.

[will777 0]

No replies as yet so to add reason for asking this: the permission i have is a working farm and the last thing i want is him worrying the livestock, the few meetings hes had with sheep and horses resulted in him chasing the sheep but not attacking and he just beyed the horse which luckily wasnt bothered by him and didnt throw the rider off!

[T.F.Student 0]

A long rope onto a collar...if it wants to chase, let it chase...shout no...arrgh...whatever...yank it...then punish to your standard. repeat until it understands.

[will777 0]

That is basically what im doing at the moment but if anyone has had the same problems and has managed to succesfully overcome them please reply as at first i thought im wanting for the impossible!

 

Thanks

[BITCH 135]

you wont break some lines of black stuff to stock no matter how hard you try, cant even let the little b*st*rds off the leads but got to ask yourself,- "would they be as useful to ground,if they wasn,t so game".

[will777 0]

Thanks for your replies, cant have it all ways i suppose!

[Guest markbrick1]

you wont break some lines of black stuff to stock no matter how hard you try, cant even let the little b*st*rds off the leads but got to ask yourself,- "would they be as useful to ground,if they wasn,t so game".

sorry mate but that one i dont beleave,my 6 month old nuttal eats food with chickens and sheep in the stables doesnt look at any livestock at all as dont any of my dogs,mark

[will777 0]

Well im not giving up by any means so will keep introducing him and see how he goes, would make life a lot easier if he can figure out theres no benefit from chasing them!

[zap 4]

i think another read of bitches post is due markbrick1 as he says [you wont break some lines of black stuff to stock no matter how hard you try] he did not say any ,but bitches second comment about gameness do you think lads will give there dogs such a hard one correcting the livestock thing that they do knock a bit out the dog ?

[MATTI 34]

My Patt was perfect til he was 6yrs old then he took it on himself to drop a ewe, he'd never even looked at one before, so maybe they can be broken to stock but are never 100%. TICK TICK TICK

[Guest shay]

you wont break some lines of black stuff to stock no matter how hard you try, cant even let the little b*st*rds off the leads but got to ask yourself,- "would they be as useful to ground,if they wasn,t so game".

 

 

I beg to differ, ANY dog can be broke to stock if done from a pup.

[skycat 6,174]

you wont break some lines of black stuff to stock no matter how hard you try, cant even let the little b*st*rds off the leads but got to ask yourself,- "would they be as useful to ground,if they wasn,t so game".

 

 

I beg to differ, ANY dog can be broke to stock if done from a pup.

 

Quite agree, and being tough on a dog when it comes to chasing livestock won't hurt its spirit when it comes to the real game: there is a big difference between being hard on the dog for chasing sheep and being a cruel b*stard all the time. Dogs aren't stupid and even a hard black terrier (which are generally pretty intelligent as a type) can learn what not to go after. Endless exposure to the stuff they musn't chase and as much exposure as possible to the stuff they can chase is the best way. My dogs are for earth work, but they work cover and fields in the off season and have more fun and reward hunting cover than they would chasing sheep! Get the dog out and about as much as you can and it will learn, providing you tell it, what it can and can't go after. You didn't say how old the pup was by the way.........

[will777 0]

Hes 6 months old and seems very inteligent so i dont see any reason why he cant be broke to stock given the right training/discipline. Im going to make the effort to introduce him to sheep as much as possible and hopefully see a result even if just small one. Not that it will help but this is him!

 

Thanks.

Edited September 11, 2007 by will777

[skycat 6,174]

Walk him on a long lead, (about 6 foot to begin with) towards the sheep, the minute he lunges towards or even pricks his ears at the sheep jerk him off his feet and shout NO in a really angry voice. Don't praise him for not looking at them or not chasing them: you want him to ignore them completely AND you have to be really relaxed at the same time or he'll sense your tension and think there is something to kill/chase/be edgy about. Just walk back and forwards as close as the sheep will allow you to get without running to start with. I know he's a terrier, and most people don't train their terriers to retrieve, but if you can get him to chase a ball and grab it while still being on the lead you can praise hiim for doing that, and it helps with the distraction from the sheep.

Once he's doing that and ignoring the sheep on a short lead then put him on a longer line and do the same thing letting him potter about: keep calling him back for praise and a game and a bit of a fuss.

Good luck: by the way, I've always found it easier to stock break terriers to sheep than lurchers!!

[will777 0]

Thanks skycat ill start asap!