James Cooksey 29 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 I am looking at applying for my shotgun licence my brother who lives here has his, we are looking at going for shared cabinet as his cabinet is in the only suitable place. will the FAO change my brother paper work to say we are sharing a cabinet automatically, does anyone else share there cabinet and how does it work for them? 1 Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 I am looking at applying for my shotgun licence my brother who lives here has his, we are looking at going for shared cabinet as his cabinet is in the only suitable place. will the FAO change my brother paper work to say we are sharing a cabinet automatically, does anyone else share there cabinet and how does it work for them? easiest way is to put all guns on both of your tickets that way you can both have access to the cabinet, the same goes for firearms Quote Link to post
walshie 2,804 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Both certs have to have all guns in the cabinet on them. I used to share a cabinet with my son and when I bought a gun, it was added to my SGC by the seller and I wrote it on my son's SGC as "shared" as requested by my FEO. Vice versa if he bought a gun. When I sent the notification off to the police it was as usual, but added a note it was shared with SGC number blah blah. Quote Link to post
The one 8,511 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Its dead easy as long as you share both shotguns bit difficult if one of you wants a rifle though Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Its dead easy as long as you share both shotguns bit difficult if one of you wants a rifle though just as easy providing both have a slot for the same calibre on their tickets Quote Link to post
The one 8,511 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Aye but for some after they have had a shotgun for a bit they move on to a rifle ,it's a big problem if both don't Quote Link to post
Bunny Boiler 177 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Aye but for some after they have had a shotgun for a bit they move on to a rifle ,it's a big problem if both don'tI would say that if one brother wanted an FAC and the other didn't, then the brother who wants it, pays for both. Then if the other brother starts using the FAC, he just pays the brother back. Can be done, just a bit of a fag... Atb, BB Quote Link to post
Alsone 789 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) Biggest danger I can see is if one brother buys something and fails to inform the other. That then leaves the other one either in breach of their obligations to inform of a change of guns in their possession, or in the case of an FAC, illegally in possession of a firearm by virtue that arm or calibre isn't on their certificate. I'd say great care is needed to avoid falling foul of the law here. In fact, I'd say FAC time is time to pull out of this arrangement if you want to stay really safe. SGC is easier to manage and provided you check the contents of the cabinet regularly at a period more frequent than the notification period, you should be ok. I would have thought that in an emergency you can always give the other brother the keys (including spare) and declare a temporary transfer of what's on your cert and the fact that you no longer have access to the cabinet whilst you sort out your cert. However, that's a less that satisfactory arrangement and causes lots of unnecessary paperwork and grief. Edited November 22, 2013 by Alsone Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 I am looking at applying for my shotgun licence my brother who lives here has his, we are looking at going for shared cabinet as his cabinet is in the only suitable place. will the FAO change my brother paper work to say we are sharing a cabinet automatically, does anyone else share there cabinet and how does it work for them? Shotguns are easy, just jointly list them all as others have said. The Police do next to nothing automatically, make sure you advise them of all shotguns held by you and your brother. Oh yeah, check the Cabinet at least twice daily just in case your brother has bought a new one and kept it a secret. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: FAC may well be a little trickier, although the process is the same, deal with that IF the situation ever arises! Quote Link to post
James Cooksey 29 Posted November 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 I am looking at applying for my shotgun licence my brother who lives here has his, we are looking at going for shared cabinet as his cabinet is in the only suitable place. will the FAO change my brother paper work to say we are sharing a cabinet automatically, does anyone else share there cabinet and how does it work for them? Shotguns are easy, just jointly list them all as others have said. The Police do next to nothing automatically, make sure you advise them of all shotguns held by you and your brother. Oh yeah, check the Cabinet at least twice daily just in case your brother has bought a new one and kept it a secret. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: FAC may well be a little trickier, although the process is the same, deal with that IF the situation ever arises! nah my brother is happy with the gun he has got it was the first gun he brought and that was 10 years ago so he will stick with it Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 I am looking at applying for my shotgun licence my brother who lives here has his, we are looking at going for shared cabinet as his cabinet is in the only suitable place. will the FAO change my brother paper work to say we are sharing a cabinet automatically, does anyone else share there cabinet and how does it work for them? Shotguns are easy, just jointly list them all as others have said. The Police do next to nothing automatically, make sure you advise them of all shotguns held by you and your brother. Oh yeah, check the Cabinet at least twice daily just in case your brother has bought a new one and kept it a secret. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: FAC may well be a little trickier, although the process is the same, deal with that IF the situation ever arises! nah my brother is happy with the gun he has got it was the first gun he brought and that was 10 years ago so he will stick with it . are you sure you can trust him not to sneak in another while you are not looking! Quote Link to post
James Cooksey 29 Posted November 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 I am looking at applying for my shotgun licence my brother who lives here has his, we are looking at going for shared cabinet as his cabinet is in the only suitable place. will the FAO change my brother paper work to say we are sharing a cabinet automatically, does anyone else share there cabinet and how does it work for them? Shotguns are easy, just jointly list them all as others have said. The Police do next to nothing automatically, make sure you advise them of all shotguns held by you and your brother. Oh yeah, check the Cabinet at least twice daily just in case your brother has bought a new one and kept it a secret. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: FAC may well be a little trickier, although the process is the same, deal with that IF the situation ever arises! nah my brother is happy with the gun he has got it was the first gun he brought and that was 10 years ago so he will stick with it . are you sure you can trust him not to sneak in another while you are not looking! yeah I can and plus of one of us goes looking at anything shooting related we both go Quote Link to post
Alsone 789 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Oh yeah, check the Cabinet at least twice daily just in case your brother has bought a new one and kept it a secret. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Ha ha. A little fun dig there Deker? Ultimately what the Op does is up to them and certainly daily (or twice) is excessive . However, it pays to keep tabs on these things at least within the notice period as its very easy for one person to buy an extra gun and intend to tell the other but forget or never get around to it and if then there's a firearms visit and its not been declared, one person is in breach... If you have an understanding officer, you may be OK. But if you have someone who's pedantic then it could be anything from a formal written warning to prosecution at the harsh end. The latter should never happen but some forces have a few nasty characters working for them. I knew of one force where at least some of the officers were allegedly total antis. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Oh yeah, check the Cabinet at least twice daily just in case your brother has bought a new one and kept it a secret. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Ha ha. A little fun dig there Deker? Ultimately what the Op does is up to them and certainly daily (or twice) is excessive . However, it pays to keep tabs on these things at least within the notice period as its very easy for one person to buy an extra gun and intend to tell the other but forget or never get around to it and if then there's a firearms visit and its not been declared, one person is in breach... If you have an understanding officer, you may be OK. But if you have someone who's pedantic then it could be anything from a formal written warning to prosecution at the harsh end. The latter should never happen but some forces have a few nasty characters working for them. I knew of one force where at least some of the officers were allegedly total antis. :laugh: Are you kidding, any and everyone I know shouts from the rooftop and shows all their mates when they get a new gun, on top of which, in this case please note the OP's response. You inhabit a strange world, will you keep it a secret from everyone if you ever get a FAC/Rifle? Quote Link to post
Alsone 789 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 Not really what if the guy gets another shotgun but doesn't see his brother for a few weeks...... it happens. Quote Link to post
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