neil cooney 10,416 Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 What a pity that what's probably one of the last proper working types is now being bred from non-working parents. Anyone doing this has no right to call themselves a working dog person. You'll probably tell us now that it's siblings were all sold to the states for $1000s, LOL, and all became legends. But seriously, now that you've decided to keep your terrier for bushing remember that a fox when pushed will enter the tightest of places, including rabbit burrows. So you will have to have a collar on your dog and you will have to carry at the very least a small spade. You'll also have to learn how to locate a terrier underground and how to get it out. You'll also have to learn how to remove a fox from a burrow or at the very least leave the burrow so that the fox can escape without being buried. Enjoy your terrier but give me a spaniel any day where a peep on the whistle can bring him to heel so I can move on. 2 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Also meant to say, that when it comes to bushing with terriers I know the dangers. I've lost terriers several times while exercising them in places I thought I knew well. Nowadays my terriers are exercised by bushing but in a few places I know like the back of my hand. Like I said this is for exercise, not a hunting practice. The last dig I had last year was an accident while I was bushing a small patch of furze with one terrier to try and shoot a problem fox. I ended up having to leave my daughter at a rabbit burrow for 2 hours while I walked home and got a shovel. With the same terrier the year before I lost her for 7 hours while I was having a ramble with her. She was found 2 miles away by a greyhound man who had my number and rang me. All I can think that happened was that she went to ground, bolted her fox and followed it. Where the greyhound man picked her up was a short distance from a very large deep badger sett. I was lucky that day especially as she's a mute terrier in her proper work. Quote Link to post
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 just keep your dog but you may come a cropper one day, good luck 1 Quote Link to post
THE GENERAL 1,982 Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 just keep your dog but you may come a cropper one day, good luck Hopefully not a Roy Cropper! LOL Quote Link to post
yorkshire 151 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 hopefully a haley cropper for you the general Quote Link to post
terryd 8,409 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Try and keep tabs on where all the badger sets are on your permissions if possible and stick the dog on a lead well ahead of time just incase. As for foxes they can turn up any where but never leave home with out a spade and ideally a locator but at least spade You would feel pretty helpless if your tyke was to ground baying his head off and you had no spade and if you leave he might not be there when you get back. Quote Link to post
reynardhunter 3 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Thanks for the response I have a pat I bush with he bolts bunnys for the runners. I have just started on some new permission and a few drainage pipes and old 3 holes knocking about so will have to purchase a locator I think just incase, as there are not many terrier lads that I can trust around here. Thanks gents!. Fook me i thought it was stuck , get a collar yea ye miserable c###t Quote Link to post
reynardhunter 3 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 It always amazes me why someone would get a breed of dog that's been bred for many generations to go to ground for maybe many hours. Not only could you loose your terrier but you could also end up yourself in front of the Magistrate for interfering with a badger sett. Not only that but when a terrier goes to ground while out bushing you'll probably have to make a trip back to a vehicle to get tools to find and dig to your terrier. What's to stop the terrier bolting it's quarry and following it. When you get back your terrier might be miles away. Anyways, a good springer spaniel makes a better dog in covert than any terrier, plus they're more obedient. Mind you, the way a lot of terriers are bred nowadays if one got to ground on you you just wait 15 or 20 minutes and it will be out beside you. hee hee nice one Quote Link to post
irishdogs 48 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Dogs have been bred for hundreds of years for specific purposes Rottieler guard dog american Bulldog to bait bulls Pit bulls for dog fighting Shih Zhu fanny lickers Patterdale terriers for going to ground real shame to see a patterdale being used for rabbits don't know who to to hit with spade first the dog or the owner for wasting a very good ground dog Quote Link to post
terryd 8,409 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 A good home and plenty of our doors I would say that patterdale is a lot luckier than some 1 Quote Link to post
MIK 4,756 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Enjoy your terrier lad and forget about the experts on here ....I had terriers as a kid and done all sorts of hunting with them made a few mistakes along the way but that's life .... but get yourself a collar and box you owe it to your dog Edited December 6, 2013 by MIK 5 Quote Link to post
yorkshire-kid 44 Posted December 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Thanks for the postitive responses 1 Quote Link to post
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