Marine Found Guilty Of Murder

[Malt 379]

If you knew what the f**k you were talking about you'd be dangerous dare.

 

MI6 agents not getting their hands 'dirty', ffs they wrote the book on espionage! The precursor to the CIA was based on the British MI6!

 

Couldn't last round your estate....... do me a favour

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

 

 

 

 

 

On topic, the Marine's actions were immoral and illegal. He has been found guilty and will face an appropriate punishment for it.

How are they immoral?

If the sandal was on the other foot, he would be taken to a cave somewhere and his head cut off with a bread knife.

Live by the sword die by the sword imo

I don't think there is any room for political correctness in a war zone.

There is certainly not any room for sending troops out to fight your battles then not giving them 100% support when They need it.

Scandalous.

Or shot, like Highlander McLaren. Unless there are plans to ethnically cleanse Afghanistan of all Pashtuns, there is no way the Afghan situation will be resolved with a solely military solution. A negotiated political settlement is the only way to end the conflict.

 

This marine's actions have damaged the chance of a settlement, and may result in more British military deaths. Piers Morgan was directly responsible for inciting the upsurge in violence in Iraq when he published the faked photos of detainee abuse. This led to several British soldiers dying.

 

All conflict zones are governed by the laws and all British Military personnel are under the Geneva Convention. I support all British Military personnel, but not when the commit illegal acts.

 

Blackbriar- yes you are only allowed to the enemy under certain circumstances. All British military personnel are trained in the Laws of Armed Conflict.

What do you think they should have done ........

Put an FFD/Asherman chest seal on him and sent up the 9 liner, then took him back to the patrol base for the MERT.

So that he would have been saved patched up and returned to his village so that he could plant an IED or shoot a British soldier so that a baby in the uk loses a daddy or a Mother loses a son ..........

 

 

These insurgents aren't just patched up and returned to their villages. There is a processing facility in BSN after the military intelligence have taken their pound of flesh. They are then dealt with are required.

 

There are always casualties in war. The objective in Afghanistan is to reduce the level of violence to an acceptable level in order to allow negotiations to take place. The situation can be compared to that of Northern Ireland of the 70s, 80s and 90s.

[Born Hunter 17,788]

 

On topic, the Marine's actions were immoral and illegal. He has been found guilty and will face an appropriate punishment for it.

Are you one of these do gooders ,which has made this country of ours shit .SHAME ON YOU The armed forces are doing there best to try and protect this country from this scum and you get twats like you saying its not legal ,Its a F*****g war not a rugby game .

 

 

In fairness, he sounds like a serviceman to me so I'd show the chap a bit of respect. His answer is by the book and I can't dissagree with it, that said I don't dissagree with socks either. You do what you have to and that may mean giving your life or breaking the law.

 

I think the GC is a good thing but it really struggles to support us in wars like this.

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

 

On topic, the Marine's actions were immoral and illegal. He has been found guilty and will face an appropriate punishment for it.

Are you one of these do gooders ,which has made this country of ours shit .SHAME ON YOU The armed forces are doing there best to try and protect this country from this scum and you get twats like you saying its not legal ,Its a F*****g war not a rugby game .

 

 

No, I'm not a do gooder, nor am I a twat. I'm well aware of the realities of conflict.

[scothunter 12,609]

they were involved in some scary shady shit in the most dangerous streets in the uk.im referring to N.Ireland.im pretty sure your streets would be like a walk in the park for them. hardly think a few pissed up chavs will bother them to much lol

[socks 32,253]

 

 

 

 

 

 

On topic, the Marine's actions were immoral and illegal. He has been found guilty and will face an appropriate punishment for it.

 

How are they immoral?

If the sandal was on the other foot, he would be taken to a cave somewhere and his head cut off with a bread knife.

Live by the sword die by the sword imo

I don't think there is any room for political correctness in a war zone.

There is certainly not any room for sending troops out to fight your battles then not giving them 100% support when They need it.

Scandalous.

Or shot, like Highlander McLaren. Unless there are plans to ethnically cleanse Afghanistan of all Pashtuns, there is no way the Afghan situation will be resolved with a solely military solution. A negotiated political settlement is the only way to end the conflict.

 

This marine's actions have damaged the chance of a settlement, and may result in more British military deaths. Piers Morgan was directly responsible for inciting the upsurge in violence in Iraq when he published the faked photos of detainee abuse. This led to several British soldiers dying.

 

All conflict zones are governed by the laws and all British Military personnel are under the Geneva Convention. I support all British Military personnel, but not when the commit illegal acts.

 

Blackbriar- yes you are only allowed to the enemy under certain circumstances. All British military personnel are trained in the Laws of Armed Conflict.

What do you think they should have done ........

Put an FFD/Asherman chest seal on him and sent up the 9 liner, then took him back to the patrol base for the MERT.

So that he would have been saved patched up and returned to his village so that he could plant an IED or shoot a British soldier so that a baby in the uk loses a daddy or a Mother loses a son ..........

These insurgents aren't just patched up and returned to their villages. There is a processing facility in BSN after the military intelligence have taken their pound of flesh. They are then dealt with are required.

 

There are always casualties in war. The objective in Afghanistan is to reduce the level of violence to an acceptable level in order to allow negotiations to take place. The situation can be compared to that of Northern Ireland of the 70s, 80s and 90s.

If indeed you have been in the army and have served on the front line on an operational tour then I am struggling to come to terms with your tone ... And if you have you will well know that unless an injured insurgent is a prominent figure he will be out the gate as soon as he can walk ......

[Nik_B 3,790]

I think this is a joke but I am not surprised he got royally shafted. The f*****g politicians that throw these guys to the wolves have never experienced what the average infantryman has to experience....maybe it should be a requirement for a percentage of them to have served in the army before commenting on something like this.

 

Edit: and p.s out politicians were ordering out soldiers particularly the SAS to execute the IRA near the border in Ireland so this is F**king hypocritical crap.

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On topic, the Marine's actions were immoral and illegal. He has been found guilty and will face an appropriate punishment for it.

How are they immoral?

If the sandal was on the other foot, he would be taken to a cave somewhere and his head cut off with a bread knife.

Live by the sword die by the sword imo

I don't think there is any room for political correctness in a war zone.

There is certainly not any room for sending troops out to fight your battles then not giving them 100% support when They need it.

Scandalous.

Or shot, like Highlander McLaren. Unless there are plans to ethnically cleanse Afghanistan of all Pashtuns, there is no way the Afghan situation will be resolved with a solely military solution. A negotiated political settlement is the only way to end the conflict.

 

This marine's actions have damaged the chance of a settlement, and may result in more British military deaths. Piers Morgan was directly responsible for inciting the upsurge in violence in Iraq when he published the faked photos of detainee abuse. This led to several British soldiers dying.

 

All conflict zones are governed by the laws and all British Military personnel are under the Geneva Convention. I support all British Military personnel, but not when the commit illegal acts.

 

Blackbriar- yes you are only allowed to the enemy under certain circumstances. All British military personnel are trained in the Laws of Armed Conflict.

What do you think they should have done ........

Put an FFD/Asherman chest seal on him and sent up the 9 liner, then took him back to the patrol base for the MERT.

So that he would have been saved patched up and returned to his village so that he could plant an IED or shoot a British soldier so that a baby in the uk loses a daddy or a Mother loses a son ..........

These insurgents aren't just patched up and returned to their villages. There is a processing facility in BSN after the military intelligence have taken their pound of flesh. They are then dealt with are required.

 

There are always casualties in war. The objective in Afghanistan is to reduce the level of violence to an acceptable level in order to allow negotiations to take place. The situation can be compared to that of Northern Ireland of the 70s, 80s and 90s.

If indeed you have been in the army and have served on the front line on an operational tour then I am struggling to come to terms with your tone ... And if you have you will well know that unless an injured insurgent is a prominent figure he will be out the gate as soon as he can walk ......

 

 

I don't mean you any offence socks. We will have to agree to disagree on this thread.

[socks 32,253]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On topic, the Marine's actions were immoral and illegal. He has been found guilty and will face an appropriate punishment for it.

 

How are they immoral?

If the sandal was on the other foot, he would be taken to a cave somewhere and his head cut off with a bread knife.

Live by the sword die by the sword imo

I don't think there is any room for political correctness in a war zone.

There is certainly not any room for sending troops out to fight your battles then not giving them 100% support when They need it.

Scandalous.

Or shot, like Highlander McLaren. Unless there are plans to ethnically cleanse Afghanistan of all Pashtuns, there is no way the Afghan situation will be resolved with a solely military solution. A negotiated political settlement is the only way to end the conflict.

 

This marine's actions have damaged the chance of a settlement, and may result in more British military deaths. Piers Morgan was directly responsible for inciting the upsurge in violence in Iraq when he published the faked photos of detainee abuse. This led to several British soldiers dying.

 

All conflict zones are governed by the laws and all British Military personnel are under the Geneva Convention. I support all British Military personnel, but not when the commit illegal acts.

 

Blackbriar- yes you are only allowed to the enemy under certain circumstances. All British military personnel are trained in the Laws of Armed Conflict.

What do you think they should have done ........

Put an FFD/Asherman chest seal on him and sent up the 9 liner, then took him back to the patrol base for the MERT.

So that he would have been saved patched up and returned to his village so that he could plant an IED or shoot a British soldier so that a baby in the uk loses a daddy or a Mother loses a son ..........

These insurgents aren't just patched up and returned to their villages. There is a processing facility in BSN after the military intelligence have taken their pound of flesh. They are then dealt with are required.

 

There are always casualties in war. The objective in Afghanistan is to reduce the level of violence to an acceptable level in order to allow negotiations to take place. The situation can be compared to that of Northern Ireland of the 70s, 80s and 90s.

If indeed you have been in the army and have served on the front line on an operational tour then I am struggling to come to terms with your tone ... And if you have you will well know that unless an injured insurgent is a prominent figure he will be out the gate as soon as he can walk ......

I don't mean you any offence socks. We will have to agree to disagree on this thread.

I don't mean you any offence mate every man is entitled to their opinion and their thoughts on any subject ... Were you military and if so what ???

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On topic, the Marine's actions were immoral and illegal. He has been found guilty and will face an appropriate punishment for it.

How are they immoral?

If the sandal was on the other foot, he would be taken to a cave somewhere and his head cut off with a bread knife.

Live by the sword die by the sword imo

I don't think there is any room for political correctness in a war zone.

There is certainly not any room for sending troops out to fight your battles then not giving them 100% support when They need it.

Scandalous.

Or shot, like Highlander McLaren. Unless there are plans to ethnically cleanse Afghanistan of all Pashtuns, there is no way the Afghan situation will be resolved with a solely military solution. A negotiated political settlement is the only way to end the conflict.

 

This marine's actions have damaged the chance of a settlement, and may result in more British military deaths. Piers Morgan was directly responsible for inciting the upsurge in violence in Iraq when he published the faked photos of detainee abuse. This led to several British soldiers dying.

 

All conflict zones are governed by the laws and all British Military personnel are under the Geneva Convention. I support all British Military personnel, but not when the commit illegal acts.

 

Blackbriar- yes you are only allowed to the enemy under certain circumstances. All British military personnel are trained in the Laws of Armed Conflict.

What do you think they should have done ........

Put an FFD/Asherman chest seal on him and sent up the 9 liner, then took him back to the patrol base for the MERT.

So that he would have been saved patched up and returned to his village so that he could plant an IED or shoot a British soldier so that a baby in the uk loses a daddy or a Mother loses a son ..........

These insurgents aren't just patched up and returned to their villages. There is a processing facility in BSN after the military intelligence have taken their pound of flesh. They are then dealt with are required.

 

There are always casualties in war. The objective in Afghanistan is to reduce the level of violence to an acceptable level in order to allow negotiations to take place. The situation can be compared to that of Northern Ireland of the 70s, 80s and 90s.

If indeed you have been in the army and have served on the front line on an operational tour then I am struggling to come to terms with your tone ... And if you have you will well know that unless an injured insurgent is a prominent figure he will be out the gate as soon as he can walk ......

I don't mean you any offence socks. We will have to agree to disagree on this thread.

I don't mean you any offence mate every man is entitled to their opinion and their thoughts on any subject ... Were you military and if so what ???

 

 

I served 7 years in the Army, Royal Logistic Corps.

[socks 32,253]

On topic, the Marine's actions were immoral and illegal. He has been found guilty and will face an appropriate punishment for it.

How are they immoral?

If the sandal was on the other foot, he would be taken to a cave somewhere and his head cut off with a bread knife.

Live by the sword die by the sword imo

I don't think there is any room for political correctness in a war zone.

There is certainly not any room for sending troops out to fight your battles then not giving them 100% support when They need it.

Scandalous.

 

Or shot, like Highlander McLaren. Unless there are plans to ethnically cleanse Afghanistan of all Pashtuns, there is no way the Afghan situation will be resolved with a solely military solution. A negotiated political settlement is the only way to end the conflict.

 

This marine's actions have damaged the chance of a settlement, and may result in more British military deaths. Piers Morgan was directly responsible for inciting the upsurge in violence in Iraq when he published the faked photos of detainee abuse. This led to several British soldiers dying.

 

All conflict zones are governed by the laws and all British Military personnel are under the Geneva Convention. I support all British Military personnel, but not when the commit illegal acts.

 

Blackbriar- yes you are only allowed to the enemy under certain circumstances. All British military personnel are trained in the Laws of Armed Conflict.

What do you think they should have done ........

 

Put an FFD/Asherman chest seal on him and sent up the 9 liner, then took him back to the patrol base for the MERT.

So that he would have been saved patched up and returned to his village so that he could plant an IED or shoot a British soldier so that a baby in the uk loses a daddy or a Mother loses a son ..........

 

These insurgents aren't just patched up and returned to their villages. There is a processing facility in BSN after the military intelligence have taken their pound of flesh. They are then dealt with are required.

 

There are always casualties in war. The objective in Afghanistan is to reduce the level of violence to an acceptable level in order to allow negotiations to take place. The situation can be compared to that of Northern Ireland of the 70s, 80s and 90s.

If indeed you have been in the army and have served on the front line on an operational tour then I am struggling to come to terms with your tone ... And if you have you will well know that unless an injured insurgent is a prominent figure he will be out the gate as soon as he can walk ......

 

I don't mean you any offence socks. We will have to agree to disagree on this thread.

 

I don't mean you any offence mate every man is entitled to their opinion and their thoughts on any subject ... Were you military and if so what ???

 

I served 7 years in the Army, Royal Logistic Corps.

 

Fair play mate but in all fairness you wouldn't have experienced the day on day bollox of a front line infantry soldier .........

[WILF 47,354]

Should they have just plugged the dude and cracked on?......yes

 

Should they have made a 5 minute song and dance about it on camera?.....no

 

The law had little choice but to convict or you would have head bangers ironing out people on a whim which any way you look at it just can't be allowed to happen.

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

 

 

On topic, the Marine's actions were immoral and illegal. He has been found guilty and will face an appropriate punishment for it.

How are they immoral?

If the sandal was on the other foot, he would be taken to a cave somewhere and his head cut off with a bread knife.

Live by the sword die by the sword imo

I don't think there is any room for political correctness in a war zone.

There is certainly not any room for sending troops out to fight your battles then not giving them 100% support when They need it.

Scandalous.

 

Or shot, like Highlander McLaren. Unless there are plans to ethnically cleanse Afghanistan of all Pashtuns, there is no way the Afghan situation will be resolved with a solely military solution. A negotiated political settlement is the only way to end the conflict.

 

This marine's actions have damaged the chance of a settlement, and may result in more British military deaths. Piers Morgan was directly responsible for inciting the upsurge in violence in Iraq when he published the faked photos of detainee abuse. This led to several British soldiers dying.

 

All conflict zones are governed by the laws and all British Military personnel are under the Geneva Convention. I support all British Military personnel, but not when the commit illegal acts.

 

Blackbriar- yes you are only allowed to the enemy under certain circumstances. All British military personnel are trained in the Laws of Armed Conflict.

What do you think they should have done ........

 

Put an FFD/Asherman chest seal on him and sent up the 9 liner, then took him back to the patrol base for the MERT.

So that he would have been saved patched up and returned to his village so that he could plant an IED or shoot a British soldier so that a baby in the uk loses a daddy or a Mother loses a son ..........

 

These insurgents aren't just patched up and returned to their villages. There is a processing facility in BSN after the military intelligence have taken their pound of flesh. They are then dealt with are required.

 

There are always casualties in war. The objective in Afghanistan is to reduce the level of violence to an acceptable level in order to allow negotiations to take place. The situation can be compared to that of Northern Ireland of the 70s, 80s and 90s.

If indeed you have been in the army and have served on the front line on an operational tour then I am struggling to come to terms with your tone ... And if you have you will well know that unless an injured insurgent is a prominent figure he will be out the gate as soon as he can walk ......

 

I don't mean you any offence socks. We will have to agree to disagree on this thread.

 

I don't mean you any offence mate every man is entitled to their opinion and their thoughts on any subject ... Were you military and if so what ???

 

I served 7 years in the Army, Royal Logistic Corps.

 

Fair play mate but in all fairness you wouldn't have experienced the day on day bollox of a front line infantry soldier .........

 

2 weeks with C Company 2 PARA in FOB Gibraltar gave me some of an idea. But no, I wasn't doing 40hr foot patrols or stagging on. CLPs weren't fun though.

[Nik_B 3,790]

Should they have just plugged the dude and cracked on?......yes

 

Should they have made a 5 minute song and dance about it on camera?.....no

 

The law had little choice but to convict or you would have head bangers ironing out people on a whim which any way you look at it just can't be allowed to happen.

 

Yeh but the head bangers are doing that anyways so it doesn't make that much difference. We our army/politicians are the ones making a song and a dance about it. The septics don't freak out when their drones accidentally take out a couple of houses of innocents do they? Its about time we got more realistics, we train these guys to kill and then we expect to be able to switch them of at the drop of a hat which is ludicrous.

 

I feel sorry for the guy getting done, he is going to get more in prison than a real murderer or paedo I imagine.

[Born Hunter 17,788]

 

 

2 weeks with C Company 2 PARA in FOB Gibraltar gave me some of an idea. But no, I wasn't doing 40hr foot patrols or stagging on. CLPs weren't fun though.

 

 

Just googled that as it wrang a bell................... 1 in 3 casualty rate! That sounds f***ing horrendous! Even if you were only attached to them for 2 weeks.