kruby01 114 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Well said Dan and Paulus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire dan 467 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 As billy (kruby01) said his dogs are great with my children. And there also great with my dogs. The only 2 dogs of mine and billys that play fight are the youngest 2 and they are sisters. They are awesome dogs and very trustworthy yes they are powerful. They are also deadly if not raised correct but let's be fair any dog trained to attack will attack 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire dan 467 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Cheers Billy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 I don't dispute what any of the owners of bull breed dogs are saying, my sister had one for 13years growing up with 3 girls, it was her 4th child & yes statistically many other breeds bite just as many people, but the women who recently lost her little girl tried in vain to stop that dog by stabbing it, my guess is that with most other typical breeds she may of been able to stop it before it killed her little girl. It's the damage they can do in such little time when they sometimes 'turn' which is the biggest worry. My brother in law got a very large pitbull back in the early 90's, I went round one day while my sister was alone with this dog & 3 little girls, as she opened the door to me she couldn't hold it back, I grabbed it & pulled it in with a struggle......it was fine, but it could of killed all 3 of my nieces & my sister couldn't of done a thing...... 2 weeks later he was caught walking it without a muzzle & it had to be destroyed......I was fuc*ing relieved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youcanthide...BANG 1,051 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 No need for bull breed of any sort unless you trying to look hard,your dealing in drugs or you fight these dogs they have no place in a family home think what they are bred for guarding or fighting yes other dogs do attack but because of the reason the bull breeds are bred for they cause a hell of a lot more damage Usually try and hold of these threads as theres not alot of reasoning with some people and just cant be arsed to keep up an argument, but that is absolute bollocks, obviously not owned a bull breed then, they make great family pets and love nothing more than pleasing people, if you had been round a good one long enough then you wouldnt be writing stuff like this 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kruby01 114 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 I don't dispute what any of the owners of bull breed dogs are saying, my sister had one for 13years growing up with 3 girls, it was her 4th child & yes statistically many other breeds bite just as many people, but the women who recently lost her little girl tried in vain to stop that dog by stabbing it, my guess is that with most other typical breeds she may of been able to stop it before it killed her little girl. It's the damage they can do in such little time when they sometimes 'turn' which is the biggest worry. My brother in law got a very large pitbull back in the early 90's, I went round one day while my sister was alone with this dog & 3 little girls, as she opened the door to me she couldn't hold it back, I grabbed it & pulled it in with a struggle......it was fine, but it could of killed all 3 of my nieces & my sister couldn't of done a thing...... 2 weeks later he was caught walking it without a muzzle & it had to be destroyed......I was fuc*ing relieved. I agree with that, they are powerful dogs and can do a lot of damage in a short time. So what's your solution? Everyone with a staff, pit bull, mastiff, rotweiller, alsation, greyhound, Labrador etc etc do we put them all down? I was bitten by a basset hound only trying to play bit f***ing annoying and that was powerful enough so would your sister stop a dog like that from attacking your nieces? Any dog will kill a child, breed is irrelevant it has nothing at all to do with it. Train your dog its fine! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 I think a large pitbull is maybe a wee bit stronger than Basset, but yeh I get your point, it's obvious....I just don't see many kids being killed by labs or bassets Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 I don't dispute what any of the owners of bull breed dogs are saying, my sister had one for 13years growing up with 3 girls, it was her 4th child & yes statistically many other breeds bite just as many people, but the women who recently lost her little girl tried in vain to stop that dog by stabbing it, my guess is that with most other typical breeds she may of been able to stop it before it killed her little girl. It's the damage they can do in such little time when they sometimes 'turn' which is the biggest worry. My brother in law got a very large pitbull back in the early 90's, I went round one day while my sister was alone with this dog & 3 little girls, as she opened the door to me she couldn't hold it back, I grabbed it & pulled it in with a struggle......it was fine, but it could of killed all 3 of my nieces & my sister couldn't of done a thing...... 2 weeks later he was caught walking it without a muzzle & it had to be destroyed......I was fuc*ing relieved. its was a dogue de bordeaux a mastiff type not a bull type anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire dan 467 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 The girl who was recently killed was attacked by a bull mastiff type a lot bigger than a bull terrier probably 40kg heavier than a staffy. They had the dog from a rescue center which in my opinion shouldn't have happened. Dogs from rescue centers are from unknown background and could have been beaten and abused I'd personally never rehome a dog whilst I have young children I think if you have children you shouldn't be allowed to rehome dogs other than pups. A dogs bite power is detemined by head size and a large lab has a bigger head than bull terriers which means they have a bigger bite. And many other breeds don't bite as many they bite a hell of a lot more. Look up the stats and see for yourself you'll be surprised at what you find 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kruby01 114 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Accip yes it is stronger than a basset as I have felt the power of both first hand my point being alot of women and men wouldn't have much defence on the wrong side of either! Paulus that's exactly the reputation from the media I'm talking about. If they can say its a bull breed then they will Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Accip yes it is stronger than a basset as I have felt the power of both first hand my point being alot of women and men wouldn't have much defence on the wrong side of either! Paulus that's exactly the reputation from the media I'm talking about. If they can say its a bull breed then they will the BBC started with a picture of the little girl sat next to the DDB but by the evening where showing a picture of a bull type and mentioning beefing up the dangerous dogs act Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 I don't dispute what any of the owners of bull breed dogs are saying, my sister had one for 13years growing up with 3 girls, it was her 4th child & yes statistically many other breeds bite just as many people, but the women who recently lost her little girl tried in vain to stop that dog by stabbing it, my guess is that with most other typical breeds she may of been able to stop it before it killed her little girl. It's the damage they can do in such little time when they sometimes 'turn' which is the biggest worry. My brother in law got a very large pitbull back in the early 90's, I went round one day while my sister was alone with this dog & 3 little girls, as she opened the door to me she couldn't hold it back, I grabbed it & pulled it in with a struggle......it was fine, but it could of killed all 3 of my nieces & my sister couldn't of done a thing...... 2 weeks later he was caught walking it without a muzzle & it had to be destroyed......I was fuc*ing relieved. its was a dogue de bordeaux a mastiff type not a bull type anyway Yeh I know what it was anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,661 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 I too have three bull breeds, Im 23, I have tattoos and I walk them on chain leads. Am I a Chav and a bad owner? Should my dogs be put down? My dogs have been with Shropshire Dans kids and they have been with my exes kid, I have a picture of my exes kid stood on one of my dogs and it couldn't care less! I walk them on chain leads because one of them chews leads and I also happen to like them! I dont think I'm rocky as the nearest house is over a mile away from me and the next house is about 3 miles so I dont know who I am trying to impress. I have pictures of my dogs cuddled up with the ferrets and ive also had one of them come running to me for help with a ferret locked onto its lip! Do a bit of research on bull breeds before you shout about what the media tells you! As Dan said about bite statistics, google it! Bull breeds are amongst the lowest percentage of attacks of most breeds! I guarantee the breeds you think are safe around your kids are the same breeds that failed! Yes its only bull breeds that make the headlines because they are status dogs and that needs to be sorted but not every young lad with a dog is a chav with a dangerous dog! I'm fed up of ignorant people like you hearing half a story on the news and thinking you have the perfect solution. As I said, try google. Staffies and pit bulls are known as the nanny dog and have been for centuries, why? Because they are good with kids! As I said in my post it's the owner not the dog IMO.. If your a good dog owner and responsible you'll have no issues.. One it the lads I do a lot if ferreting with has a couple of bulls a his kids learnt to walk by holding them and walking alongside.. All dogs can turn, it's the humans job to make sure people other dogs are kept safe.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kruby01 114 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Accip yes it is stronger than a basset as I have felt the power of both first hand my point being alot of women and men wouldn't have much defence on the wrong side of either! Paulus that's exactly the reputation from the media I'm talking about. If they can say its a bull breed then they will the BBC started with a picture of the little girl sat next to the DDB but by the evening where showing a picture of a bull type and mentioning beefing up the dangerous dogs act Its the same with most of the attacks that the media cover! They are always saying a bull breed attacked but a lot of the time it isn't! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MR TEA POT 1,287 Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Yep I must be stereotyping then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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