Malt 379 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Lockheeds build them bud far as i know then we arm them through some mad lease deal with the yanks as part of a joint strike agrement on the old ussr atacking europe. Might have all changed now They build the Trident missile yeah, which I believe is a result of contracts promised to help deal with our post WWII debt to them. I didn't realise we leased the missiles though, we deffo make the warheads in house, well to my knowledge. We lease the missiles under a complicated agreement but the thermonuclear warheads are our own.. The missiles are taken from a shared pool and rotated back and forth to the US for maintainance. The original contract was with the US and Polaris, it was redrawn for trident along the same agreements. The US do still have a limited number of nuclear warheads with NATO partners like Germany (Turkey too maybe, not 100% on that..) but they are under strict US control and can only be released for use with the authority of the US president. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Are SFs are. About. 75% men from up north. With the maj of that being scotish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Are SFs are. About. 75% men from up north. With the maj of that being scotish In the SAS yeah, I think that statistic may differ for the arguably more capable RM swimmer canoeists of the SBS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Lockheeds build them bud far as i know then we arm them through some mad lease deal with the yanks as part of a joint strike agrement on the old ussr atacking europe. Might have all changed now They build the Trident missile yeah, which I believe is a result of contracts promised to help deal with our post WWII debt to them. I didn't realise we leased the missiles though, we deffo make the warheads in house, well to my knowledge. We lease the missiles under a complicated agreement but the thermonuclear warheads are our own.. The missiles are taken from a shared pool and rotated back and forth to the US for maintainance. The original contract was with the US and Polaris, it was redrawn for trident along the same agreements. The US do still have a limited number of nuclear warheads with NATO partners like Germany (Turkey too maybe, not 100% on that..) but they are under strict US control and can only be released for use with the authority of the US president. That seems like a good deal to me, saves the MOD having to fund their own R&D for a delivery system for a relatively small project. Development of our own warheads no matter the quantity has to be done in house because tactically it's just too important to outsource and risk being compromised. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Lockheeds build them bud far as i know then we arm them through some mad lease deal with the yanks as part of a joint strike agrement on the old ussr atacking europe. Might have all changed now They build the Trident missile yeah, which I believe is a result of contracts promised to help deal with our post WWII debt to them. I didn't realise we leased the missiles though, we deffo make the warheads in house, well to my knowledge. We lease the missiles under a complicated agreement but the thermonuclear warheads are our own.. The missiles are taken from a shared pool and rotated back and forth to the US for maintainance. The original contract was with the US and Polaris, it was redrawn for trident along the same agreements. The US do still have a limited number of nuclear warheads with NATO partners like Germany (Turkey too maybe, not 100% on that..) but they are under strict US control and can only be released for use with the authority of the US president.. Close though wasnt i lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Are SFs are. About. 75% men from up north. With the maj of that being scotish In the SAS yeah, I think that statistic may differ for the arguably more capable RM swimmer canoeists of the SBS. And the mad fookers who get launched from subs !!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Are SFs are. About. 75% men from up north. With the maj of that being scotish In the SAS yeah, I think that statistic may differ for the arguably more capable RM swimmer canoeists of the SBS. And the mad fookers who get launched from subs !!!!! Yeah them! That'll not be a concern of Salmonds though because he won't be able to afford a sub never mind shoot marines from one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe67 239 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Are SFs are. About. 75% men from up north. With the maj of that being scotish In the SAS yeah, I think that statistic may differ for the arguably more capable RM swimmer canoeists of the SBS. And the mad fookers who get launched from subs !!!!! Yeah them! That'll not be a concern of Salmonds though because he won't be able to afford a sub never mind shoot marines from one. LOL, sorry mate, more shite, scotland will be poor bla bla bla Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Are SFs are. About. 75% men from up north. With the maj of that being scotish In the SAS yeah, I think that statistic may differ for the arguably more capable RM swimmer canoeists of the SBS. And the mad fookers who get launched from subs !!!!! Yeah them! That'll not be a concern of Salmonds though because he won't be able to afford a sub never mind shoot marines from one. LOL, sorry mate, more shite, scotland will be poor bla bla bla I've posed a more comprehensive post on exactly that previously. If it's shite then please comment mate... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Are SFs are. About. 75% men from up north. With the maj of that being scotish In the SAS yeah, I think that statistic may differ for the arguably more capable RM swimmer canoeists of the SBS. And the mad fookers who get launched from subs !!!!! Yeah them! That'll not be a concern of Salmonds though because he won't be able to afford a sub never mind shoot marines from one. LOL, sorry mate, more shite, scotland will be poor bla bla bla I've posed a more comprehensive post on exactly that previously. If it's shite then please comment mate... Its shite because its not what they pro lot want to hear mate.. They offer all sorts of reasons about why independence will be good yet can only come up with 'shite' or 'scaremongering' when you offer a valid counter argument.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackdug 90 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 I want to ask the English in all seriousness ...why are so many English posters here even bothered about a vote they do not have any say in ...it is upto the scots not the English .... The scots will vote no and in my eyes it's because of turncoats who post shite like snp is the Ira ....home rule is Rome rule...the feeling I get when I see my supposedly fellow country men write crap like that is indescribable.........dregs of society I am just glad I was raised by parents that learned to rise about your bigoted shite and taught me the same morals Who would want an independent Scotland when we have to inherit fools who would love to see Scotland resemble Northern Ireland Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 I want to ask the English in all seriousness ...why are so many English posters here even bothered about a vote they do not have any say in ...it is upto the scots not the English .... The scots will vote no and in my eyes it's because of turncoats who post shite like snp is the Ira ....home rule is Rome rule...the feeling I get when I see my supposedly fellow country men write crap like that is indescribable.........dregs of society I am just glad I was raised by parents that learned to rise about your bigoted shite and taught me the same morals Who would want an independent Scotland when we have to inherit fools who would love to see Scotland resemble Northern Ireland Why....... because it's not only the Scottish devolution affects. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe67 239 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 its shite saying scotland will have no money, cant pay for this cant pay for that. lets say scotland does vote yes, lets turn the table... you think the rest of uk will pay for everything with no problem, upkeep of armys, ships, trident and everything else in the three countrys and scotland will turn into a third world country without uk? cmon... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) Its a good job the english dont have a say as i think there would be an over whelming victory for wee ekks throne Edited November 7, 2013 by gonetoearth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 I'm not English... That's what get's on my tits too, the UK is made up of 4 countries, not 2.. The reason I get involved is because I care about the Scottish people I know.. I have no alleigence to your hill and glens, but I have a Scottish wife who's family I consider my own. I also have several very good Scottish friends.. I am concerned what Scotland's independence will mean for the people I know and love.. I firmly believe that Independance under Salmond will lead to the biggest nanny state and the most tightly controlled population in the western world. You've seen what happened to the UK under labours rule, why do you think it will be any different with Salmond and his lot up there? I also like being part of a union of countries punching above their weight on the world stage. The likes of the Germans and French must be rubbing their hands in glee at the possibility of Scotland going its own way. We stand strong in Europe together, far stronger than we would apart. We have achieved so much together and shaped the course of world history between our 4 nations. To throw all that away for the sake of a fat man's vanity and a few repeats of Braveheart would be a travesty.. Then there's the selfish part of me that thinks a Scotlandless UK would cause a shift in the balance of politics. Without Scotland helping to balance things, my country and the working class areas of England would forever be at the mercy of the south east. After a few decades of voting and having no effect, my country could be forced into considering its own position, further weakening us and leaving us all open to being swallowed up by an ever expanding United States of Europe.. Like it or not, globalisation is taking place and each region is fast becoming nothing more than a constituent part of a greater whole and we loose more and more freedoms all the time. Why make it easier for those who seek to control us all? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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