My & my ferts first time ever

[Guest Magwitch]

Sorry to be drawn into the ferret finder debate but i wouldn't put a ferret in burrow without a collar on because any a mount of field craft ain't gonna find your ferret that's laid up or trapped, as i have said before you rarely get a lost ferret in a rescue centre wearing a collar. rant over! Anyway enjoyed reading your post

 

Err wrong i took 4 ferrets with mark 1 collars on in the space of 12 months,

 

I am reading a book dated back to 1945 , the auther sugests all new stock should be taught to come to there masters call, e describes how to do it when there kits , he also believes that using a chatty jill will drive the prey into the nets , couple that with the fact the ferret comes to your call , its common sence to me after reading that

How many without collars?

 

look the point is regardless of weather you use a knocker box or not the basics like bonding with said ferrets/s is a must , using a box shouldt replace that , couple medern technology with a tad of common sence & no one should have to dig or loose a ferret period.

 

i have no idea how many ferrets i took in that were worked or had never been worked , there ferrets simple as that

how do you retrieve a trapped or laid up ferret with bonding or common sense or dead and dying rabbits?

[Kay 3,709]

Sorry to be drawn into the ferret finder debate but i wouldn't put a ferret in burrow without a collar on because any a mount of field craft ain't gonna find your ferret that's laid up or trapped, as i have said before you rarely get a lost ferret in a rescue centre wearing a collar. rant over! Anyway enjoyed reading your post

 

Err wrong i took 4 ferrets with mark 1 collars on in the space of 12 months,

 

I am reading a book dated back to 1945 , the auther sugests all new stock should be taught to come to there masters call, e describes how to do it when there kits , he also believes that using a chatty jill will drive the prey into the nets , couple that with the fact the ferret comes to your call , its common sence to me after reading that

How many without collars?

 

look the point is regardless of weather you use a knocker box or not the basics like bonding with said ferrets/s is a must , using a box shouldt replace that , couple medern technology with a tad of common sence & no one should have to dig or loose a ferret period.

 

i have no idea how many ferrets i took in that were worked or had never been worked , there ferrets simple as that

how do you retrieve a trapped or laid up ferret with bonding or common sense or dead and dying rabbits?

 

You dig silly

[Guest Magwitch]

Sorry to be drawn into the ferret finder debate but i wouldn't put a ferret in burrow without a collar on because any a mount of field craft ain't gonna find your ferret that's laid up or trapped, as i have said before you rarely get a lost ferret in a rescue centre wearing a collar. rant over! Anyway enjoyed reading your post

 

Err wrong i took 4 ferrets with mark 1 collars on in the space of 12 months,

 

I am reading a book dated back to 1945 , the auther sugests all new stock should be taught to come to there masters call, e describes how to do it when there kits , he also believes that using a chatty jill will drive the prey into the nets , couple that with the fact the ferret comes to your call , its common sence to me after reading that

How many without collars?

 

look the point is regardless of weather you use a knocker box or not the basics like bonding with said ferrets/s is a must , using a box shouldt replace that , couple medern technology with a tad of common sence & no one should have to dig or loose a ferret period.

 

i have no idea how many ferrets i took in that were worked or had never been worked , there ferrets simple as that

how do you retrieve a trapped or laid up ferret with bonding or common sense or dead and dying rabbits?

 

You dig silly

Where? if you haven't got a collar on :search:

[Kay 3,709]

ok your point regarding ' rescues dont get many ferrets in with collars on'' was answered by me, it does happen its either down to duff batterys or the people couldnt be ared to dig , i didnt say knocker boxes shouldnt be used , if for some reason the batterys fail while the ferrets at work thats bad luck especially if you have checked them prior.

 

 

 

I didnt explain myself very well

[Madcowz 0]

Question: I have heard people say that they detect when their fert has killed as it is stationary for a while and then moves on allowing them to mark the spot and dig later. Does this mean they spend the entire time with the finder tracking the ferts as they work? Seems a bit strange.

 

Pleased that ye enjoyed yeself mate. And that the ferrets did what ferrets do tend to do. In time ~ and with experiance ~ ye'll realise how that grin transforms to a deady serious look of alert concentration. Only, in your case, probably focused on that f*cking box.

 

 

D.S.

 

I think my post didn't come over to well.

 

The box stayed in the bag until we hadn't seen the ferts for about 40 minutes. I then used it to:

 

a) Use it for the first time (apart from testing in my back garden)

See where they were as this was my first time ever and while I wasn't worried, I was interested to see what was going on

 

Up until that point we had stood far back whispering very quietly. Letting the ferrets do what ferrets do.

 

I will certainly not be stamping about the ground waving the box about like an idiot.

 

Getting away from the box arguement. Lets talk about raw vs dry food.

 

No I'm kidding! I went to clean the ferts out this morning and there was absolutely no sign of the two baby rabbits. They had eaten everything, fur bones, skull, the lot. How cool is that. made me grin again. (I know, I am new to this ferreting lark)

 

QUESTION: Everyone talks about being quiet, but surely when you run to grab a rabbit that has bolted into a net you ruin the whole stealth thing?

 

 

/Mad

[hairyarsedscotsman 0]

i agree with ditch .i dont use a collar, christ i dont even take a spade .i said before if they dont show whistle down the hole they allways come out "patients is a virtue"

good luck with the ferts

[Kay 3,709]

i agree with ditch .i dont use a collar, christ i dont even take a spade .i said before if they dont show whistle down the hole they allways come out "patients is a virtue"

good luck with the ferts

 

So you took the trouble to get your ferrets to come to you when they were babys , ie the bonding point i was trying to make earlier that was jumped on ,

[hairyarsedscotsman 0]

you are right, i dont pamper them they are treeted well, all it takes is time ,just whistle whene you want them pick them up handle them feed

[Kay 3,709]

you are right, i dont pamper them they are treeted well, all it takes is time ,just whistle whene you want them pick them up handle them feed

 

So would you agree that if you collar up a ferret & the batterys fail or for some reason the collar comes off , schooling the ferret to come to your call would act as a good back up if the electronic stuff fails

[hairyarsedscotsman 0]

<[bANNED TEXT]>NO[bANNED TEXT]>. school the ferret ,dont bother with the electronics.save your self some money ."watch this i bet the next time im out the fert lies up ha ha"

[gibby 0]

Firstly: Well done madcowz Glad you had a good time out, that'll be you hooked! Im sure within the next few times out you ferts will come on in leave and bounds and you will know almost for sure that your ferts have fully swept the warren!

 

Secondly: My 2 pence worth in the locator debate, using a very recent anecdote.

Just today, me and my mate (swandog1 off this site) were out for a spot of ferreting. Took 4 ferrets altogether, 2 jills each, and a locator and 3 collars. All the ferrets that were entered had a collar on at the time. It just so turns out that it was for good bloody reason! Swanys ferret that has never laid up before had to be dug to 3 times. Twice there was 2 rabbits in the stop end. So thats 3 digs, 5 rabbits, less time waiting for the ferrets to appear, more time to do other warrens: SUCCESS!!! I personally will never enter a ferret without a collar on for both the safety of the ferret (by making it harder to lose), and to save time when a lay up occurs.

 

PS just incase you think that we were being too loud or doing something wrong which incurred the layups, we bolted a further 12, some from the same warrens that we dug. Pity we missed about 4 of the rabbits when the nets got tangled etc. But our end tally was 13 bunnies.

[martin 332]

Just thought I'd put my 6 eggs in,,,for what there worth.In 33 yrs of ferreting,I have never owned a knocker box or have I<[bANNED TEXT]> EVER[bANNED TEXT]>had to dig out a fert,so,as Ferretlove(brilliant name)says the bonding and the play that you put in with your fert will pay off tenfold.I call my ferts they come...it's as simple as that.If I have a lay up,I have a purpose built box that I put into one of the holes and block the others,and,put a little tin of milk and some rabbit liver in with the straw,and hey presto next morning,there they are asleep in the straw.I must also add,that in 33yrs I've never lost a fert.

Now all that said,someone actually gave me a mk 1 knocker box recently,and,I am in two minds whether to try it out,but,I would only bother on the very large buries,as no matter what anybody says,if you dig,then you will always be digging in that bury,because when you dig,you make stop ends,thus causing more and more digs.......simple really.Also I have a very large dominant Hob that will push any jill off a kill.I used to have a Hob that would retrieve rabbits from the depths,by latching on to their face and going into reverse,he did it time after time as well.

Anyway,I'll let you get on with your bickering....................Martin.

[Hob&Jill 258]

Well done mate, sounds like you had a good day. Its fun even if its a blank

 

You still on for a day out soon?

 

ATB,,

 

H&J

[ferret15 0]

well done madcowz

 

every one has there own way of doing things

from what you have said i can not see anything wrong with what your doing i would carry on as you are

[micky 3,325]

Just thought I'd put my 6 eggs in,,,for what there worth.In 33 yrs of ferreting,I have never owned a knocker box or have I<[bANNED TEXT]> EVER</[bANNED TEXT]>had to dig out a fert,so,as Ferretlove(brilliant name)says the bonding and the play that you put in with your fert will pay off tenfold.I call my ferts they come...it's as simple as that.If I have a lay up,I have a purpose built box that I put into one of the holes and block the others,and,put a little tin of milk and some rabbit liver in with the straw,and hey presto next morning,there they are asleep in the straw.I must also add,that in 33yrs I've never lost a fert.

Now all that said,someone actually gave me a mk 1 knocker box recently,and,I am in two minds whether to try it out,but,I would only bother on the very large buries,as no matter what anybody says,if you dig,then you will always be digging in that bury,because when you dig,you make stop ends,thus causing more and more digs.......simple really.Also I have a very large dominant Hob that will push any jill off a kill.I used to have a Hob that would retrieve rabbits from the depths,by latching on to their face and going into reverse,he did it time after time as well.

Anyway,I'll let you get on with your bickering....................Martin.

you not have not caught many rabbits in those 33years have you martin.