3/4 Greyhound 1/4 Collie X Bearded Border

[Stud dog 632]

Anyone know wear my mates gone wrong he as Hancock beardiexborder the bitch is running bunnys but won't strike I've been out couple of times with her she is all over the bunny but won't pick it up any help or suggestion ? As I don't know how to help the bloke

[birddog 1,354]

Anyone know wear my mates gone wrong he as Hancock beardiexborder the bitch is running bunnys but won't strike I've been out couple of times with her she is all over the bunny but won't pick it up any help or suggestion ? As I don't know how to help the bloke

how old is it ?

[shaaark 10,752]

Does Hancock do straight Beardie 3/4 grey crosses? I know he does 1/2 breds, some nice looking pups on the site now, and he's got a couple of Beardie studs, just wondered about 3/4 breds

Edited November 3, 2013 by shaaark

[beast 1,884]

Does Hancock do straight Beardie 3/4 grey crosses? I know he does 1/2 breds, some nice looking pups on the site now, and he's got a couple of Beardie studs, just wondered about 3/4 breds

 

no he doesnt as they are usually smooth coated and dont sell well. this is a shame as i have seen and heard about a few dogs of this breeding which were pure class

[beast 1,884]

to answer the original post.

i have owned border greys both first cross and line bred, and have also owned and seen border/beardie grey mixtures. one of my current bitches has about 1/8th beardie.

 

for some reason a little bit of beardie blood seems to go a long way, and even those with more border blood often show more beardie characteristics.

 

beardie hybrids do tend to be slower to mature, and a little more wilful during their younger days, they are also very high drive dogs by nature and more solo-hunters than some border crosses, which may need careful handling in order to encourage their independence. in fact, many of the problems which some people tend to find with border/greys arent really evident in beardie hybrids (the hyperactivity, the clinginess, the sensitive nature, etc) but i do think that at times these faults are encouraged acciidentally by how the dog is handled. one of the best all-round dogs i have evr seen was a hancock border/beardie x grey by his stud dog mr jones.

i think the beardie brings a lot to a collie cross without losing the qualities we want from such a dog (brains, nose, durability etc)

[shaaark 10,752]

 

Does Hancock do straight Beardie 3/4 grey crosses? I know he does 1/2 breds, some nice looking pups on the site now, and he's got a couple of Beardie studs, just wondered about 3/4 breds

 

no he doesnt as they are usually smooth coated and dont sell well. this is a shame as i have seen and heard about a few dogs of this breeding which were pure class

 

[shaaark 10,752]

to answer the original post.

i have owned border greys both first cross and line bred, and have also owned and seen border/beardie grey mixtures. one of my current bitches has about 1/8th beardie.

 

for some reason a little bit of beardie blood seems to go a long way, and even those with more border blood often show more beardie characteristics.

 

beardie hybrids do tend to be slower to mature, and a little more wilful during their younger days, they are also very high drive dogs by nature and more solo-hunters than some border crosses, which may need careful handling in order to encourage their independence. in fact, many of the problems which some people tend to find with border/greys arent really evident in beardie hybrids (the hyperactivity, the clinginess, the sensitive nature, etc) but i do think that at times these faults are encouraged acciidentally by how the dog is handled. one of the best all-round dogs i have evr seen was a hancock border/beardie x grey by his stud dog mr jones.

i think the beardie brings a lot to a collie cross without losing the qualities we want from such a dog (brains, nose, durability etc)

Thanks for that mate

[Stud dog 632]

 

Anyone know wear my mates gone wrong he as Hancock beardiexborder the bitch is running bunnys but won't strike I've been out couple of times with her she is all over the bunny but won't pick it up any help or suggestion ? As I don't know how to help the bloke

 

how old is it ?

Around 9-10 months is this to young to be running it

[Flipper_Al 1,012]

I have the same cross, from Dell Boy but she's 6 months old,

 

Stick a picture up.....

[birddog 1,354]

 

 

Anyone know wear my mates gone wrong he as Hancock beardiexborder the bitch is running bunnys but won't strike I've been out couple of times with her she is all over the bunny but won't pick it up any help or suggestion ? As I don't know how to help the bloke

how old is it ?

Around 9-10 months is this to young to be running it

 

don't think your mates 'gone wrong'.....depends on the dog, its progress experience etc.......my jazz was very similar at that age although she'd taken a fair tally of feathered game, the 1st few daytime bunnies were dropped halfway back and she'd chase and catch them again, i like to think it was deliberate on her behalf so she could get another chase but it's probably a combination of soft mouth and not being entirely sure what to do with her catch...........at that age they're still youngsters learning, has she seen another dog catch ? maybe picking up a lure would help, maybe another month of experience, if she were mine i'd persist with the bonding and retrieving games (using a dead bunny) and take her out with another dog on a good night when the chances are on her side........has she been out ferreting ? ...maybe seeing dead bunnies or holding netted bunnies will help, i'd tag along with someone else who's ferreting (so i could concentrate on the pup) but like i say she's still very young, a bit of patience and experience she'll be a different dog

[ash227@ymail.com 3]

Just like to thank every one who took the time to respond to my post just gonna train my pup to the best of my ability and am looking forward to getting out with her and enjoy every season I can with her

[Stud dog 632]

 

 

 

Anyone know wear my mates gone wrong he as Hancock beardiexborder the bitch is running bunnys but won't strike I've been out couple of times with her she is all over the bunny but won't pick it up any help or suggestion ? As I don't know how to help the bloke

 

how old is it ?

Around 9-10 months is this to young to be running it

don't think your mates 'gone wrong'.....depends on the dog, its progress experience etc.......my jazz was very similar at that age although she'd taken a fair tally of feathered game, the 1st few daytime bunnies were dropped halfway back and she'd chase and catch them again, i like to think it was deliberate on her behalf so she could get another chase but it's probably a combination of soft mouth and not being entirely sure what to do with her catch...........at that age they're still youngsters learning, has she seen another dog catch ? maybe picking up a lure would help, maybe another month of experience, if she were mine i'd persist with the bonding and retrieving games (using a dead bunny) and take her out with another dog on a good night when the chances are on her side........has she been out ferreting ? ...maybe seeing dead bunnies or holding netted bunnies will help, i'd tag along with someone else who's ferreting (so i could concentrate on the pup) but like i say she's still very young, a bit of patience and experience she'll be a different dog

 

Thanks bud sorry for high jacking the topic I'll tell him to take is time as the bitch as been taken out with my bitch and seen it done been ferreting a couple of times I personally think its a confidence thing with her but we will see thanks again.

[rough dog 333]

 

to answer the original post.

i have owned border greys both first cross and line bred, and have also owned and seen border/beardie grey mixtures. one of my current bitches has about 1/8th beardie.

 

for some reason a little bit of beardie blood seems to go a long way, and even those with more border blood often show more beardie characteristics.

 

beardie hybrids do tend to be slower to mature, and a little more wilful during their younger days, they are also very high drive dogs by nature and more solo-hunters than some border crosses, which may need careful handling in order to encourage their independence. in fact, many of the problems which some people tend to find with border/greys arent really evident in beardie hybrids (the hyperactivity, the clinginess, the sensitive nature, etc) but i do think that at times these faults are encouraged acciidentally by how the dog is handled. one of the best all-round dogs i have evr seen was a hancock border/beardie x grey by his stud dog mr jones.

i think the beardie brings a lot to a collie cross without losing the qualities we want from such a dog (brains, nose, durability etc)

Thanks for that mate

 

 

to answer the original post.

i have owned border greys both first cross and line bred, and have also owned and seen border/beardie grey mixtures. one of my current bitches has about 1/8th beardie.

 

for some reason a little bit of beardie blood seems to go a long way, and even those with more border blood often show more beardie characteristics.

 

beardie hybrids do tend to be slower to mature, and a little more wilful during their younger days, they are also very high drive dogs by nature and more solo-hunters than some border crosses, which may need careful handling in order to encourage their independence. in fact, many of the problems which some people tend to find with border/greys arent really evident in beardie hybrids (the hyperactivity, the clinginess, the sensitive nature, etc) but i do think that at times these faults are encouraged acciidentally by how the dog is handled. one of the best all-round dogs i have evr seen was a hancock border/beardie x grey by his stud dog mr jones.

i think the beardie brings a lot to a collie cross without losing the qualities we want from such a dog (brains, nose, durability etc)

 

 

Interesting read Beast...I`ve got a 1/4 border 1/4 beardie greyhound out of Hancocks mr jones . I`ve met David Hancock but never owned a Hancock lurcher ....she was a gift off a friend and she is a very handy bitch marking /ferreting is 100% true. I have always kept border collie greyhound crosses I don't really see any beardie characteristics in her ...do you think that 1/4 beardie would show any ?

[martinhalli 735]

 

dog on left 1st cross beardie/greyhound dog on right 5/8 greyhound 3/8 border/beardie both hancock

[birddog 1,354]

 

 

to answer the original post.

i have owned border greys both first cross and line bred, and have also owned and seen border/beardie grey mixtures. one of my current bitches has about 1/8th beardie.

 

for some reason a little bit of beardie blood seems to go a long way, and even those with more border blood often show more beardie characteristics.

 

beardie hybrids do tend to be slower to mature, and a little more wilful during their younger days, they are also very high drive dogs by nature and more solo-hunters than some border crosses, which may need careful handling in order to encourage their independence. in fact, many of the problems which some people tend to find with border/greys arent really evident in beardie hybrids (the hyperactivity, the clinginess, the sensitive nature, etc) but i do think that at times these faults are encouraged acciidentally by how the dog is handled. one of the best all-round dogs i have evr seen was a hancock border/beardie x grey by his stud dog mr jones.

i think the beardie brings a lot to a collie cross without losing the qualities we want from such a dog (brains, nose, durability etc)

Thanks for that mate

 

 

to answer the original post.

i have owned border greys both first cross and line bred, and have also owned and seen border/beardie grey mixtures. one of my current bitches has about 1/8th beardie.

 

for some reason a little bit of beardie blood seems to go a long way, and even those with more border blood often show more beardie characteristics.

 

beardie hybrids do tend to be slower to mature, and a little more wilful during their younger days, they are also very high drive dogs by nature and more solo-hunters than some border crosses, which may need careful handling in order to encourage their independence. in fact, many of the problems which some people tend to find with border/greys arent really evident in beardie hybrids (the hyperactivity, the clinginess, the sensitive nature, etc) but i do think that at times these faults are encouraged acciidentally by how the dog is handled. one of the best all-round dogs i have evr seen was a hancock border/beardie x grey by his stud dog mr jones.

i think the beardie brings a lot to a collie cross without losing the qualities we want from such a dog (brains, nose, durability etc)

 

 

Interesting read Beast...I`ve got a 1/4 border 1/4 beardie greyhound out of Hancocks mr jones . I`ve met David Hancock but never owned a Hancock lurcher ....she was a gift off a friend and she is a very handy bitch marking /ferreting is 100% true. I have always kept border collie greyhound crosses I don't really see any beardie characteristics in her ...do you think that 1/4 beardie would show any ?

 

if only genetics worked that simply..........she's maybe thrown more to the border side but her pups may throw to the beardie, jazz has only 3/16th beardie theoretically but to look at youd think a bit more