TAXI DRIVER 549 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) My pup was out ferreting before her jabs. I just tried to take her places where I didn't think others were likely to frequent. ffs gaz.... thats crap advice..... the guys a green as grass with the dogs.... and your telling him your pup was out ferreting before her jabs.... didnt do your pup any good did it..... Do yourself a favour and take a night off. Edited November 4, 2013 by TAXI DRIVER Quote Link to post
birddog 1,354 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 i see both sides here............i think its down to where you live, some guys are lucky and live in low risk areas, some guys live where theres lots of dogs and lots of risks, if you have some land with little or no risk of infection i can't see to much harm in introducing a pup to a variety of situations and stimuli, obviously under control and not overtaxing a young pup........personally i try to get them out n about as young as possible but i'm also in the camp of a little patience paying dividends when it comes to entering to quarry 2 Quote Link to post
Joe67 239 Posted November 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 kicked off here. i was looking through forums and seen some old archived threads members had done it, some even said dogs had never had jabs.. ive alot to learn, thought would be no harm asking and getting members upto date thoughts on it. thanks for the replys Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 kicked off here. i was looking through forums and seen some old archived threads members had done it, some even said dogs had never had jabs.. ive alot to learn, thought would be no harm asking and getting members upto date thoughts on it. thanks for the replys Your fault this is....... 1 Quote Link to post
Joe67 239 Posted November 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 f**k aye, just blame me. all good Quote Link to post
alan81 110 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 lads you can bring a pup somewhere where dogs don't be but don't forget fox's are dogs and get all the same infections that dogs do so the only way to really be safe is to wait until your dog has its jabs. 1 Quote Link to post
2504 92 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Lol nice bit of banter!!! 1 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 lads you can bring a pup somewhere where dogs don't be but don't forget fox's are dogs and get all the same infections that dogs do so the only way to really be safe is to wait until your dog has its jabs. Yeh that's great. But how safe can you be. I've got 3 dogs here that get walked twice a day. If I've got an unjabbed pup sat in the kennels then it's being exposed to the bacteria from their feet. Do I stop the pup going in the porch where the dirty shoes are kept? Do I wash my hands between touching older dogs and the pup? 1 Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 I can't see the point in rushing. At that age its a kip more than its awake. Be better just playing in the house or garden. They can't even walk that far with out being knackered. Each to their own but I can't see the benifits.. 4 Quote Link to post
hubbs 178 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 So does it not kill foxes ??? Stray pups can grow without jabs I think you've got to be unluck on a field to be fair !! As for walking a pup do as you see fit everyone has different takes on it ! If your really unsure just keep them in home until they are totally clear ! Quote Link to post
alan81 110 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) lads you can bring a pup somewhere where dogs don't be but don't forget fox's are dogs and get all the same infections that dogs do so the only way to really be safe is to wait until your dog has its jabs. Yeh that's great. But how safe can you be. I've got 3 dogs here that get walked twice a day. If I've got an unjabbed pup sat in the kennels then it's being exposed to the bacteria from their feet. Do I stop the pup going in the porch where the dirty shoes are kept? Do I wash my hands between touching older dogs and the pup? look mate don't be daft if I had an un jabed pup here it would be in less risk at home even if my other dogs were out and about and then in contact with the pup when they got home rather than the pup been out with them coming in contact with earth's and sent marks. when the pup is at home until it gets its jabs its the safest option you cant argue against that. you can never be 100% safe until the pup has its jabs. if the pup was out and came in contact with the sent marking of a fox that had lepto then the pup would be at higher risk of getting lepto than if it was at home and the same for parvo also you can take precautions with the dogs you had out like keeping them separate or washing them. everyone does things there own way but why take the chance of loosing the pup over 6 weeks. Edited to say most pups have at least there first jabs before there sold. Edited November 3, 2013 by alan81 Quote Link to post
Suzy Ross 236 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Pup has only had first jab, due another in nearly 2 weeks time. Ive been tempted to walk her in the field next to house past couple days, should be ok eh? Depends I suppose what the field is used for next to your house, does everyone walk their dogs there? You'd feel bad if the pup caught something due to simple impatience, highly unlikely I know but could happen. Then there is the weather aspect, the weathers to turn for the worst so by the time your pups ok to walk, you could be knee high in snow lol. You know the risks and its down to you to weigh them up. Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 It's not so much the exercise that is important at a young age, but the socialisation: which means the pup getting out and about in the big wide world. Pups that never see beyond their yard or garden until over the age of 12 weeks often remain nervous of new things throughout their lives. This is because the neural connections in their brains finish joining up by 16 weeks at the latest, some say earlier. Remember the cases of those Romanian orphans that were left tied to beds from being tiny babies? None of them grew up normal: for a similar reason: deprived of stimulation, the brain fails to develop fully. OK, dogs aren't quite the same as humans, but the principle is the same. Keep a pup shut away, and it doesn't develop such a good brain, and ability to cope with the things around it, as a pup that has been exposed to lots of different things: cars, people, other dogs particularly, different noises etc etc. We have to balance out the slight risk of exposure to disease against the benefit of getting a well-rounded individual who can be at ease in a wide variety of situations: pretty essential in a working dog I think. If you live in a bad area where there are lots of unvaccinated dogs where parvo etc is common, then it would be a bad idea to let your pup walk those streets. I take my pups in my van to areas where there are few dogs, and I only allow contact with those that I know have been vaccinated. Also, the second vaccine, as someone said, is just to be safe in case the first one didn't take. This can happen if the pup still has a lot of maternal antibodies in its system, which are passed on from the mother to ensure the pups don't all die straight off if exposed to disease, or if the pup has been vaccinated too young for the vaccine to work. I reckon most pups should be covered by the first vaccine if they have it at the age of 8 weeks. But to be safe, carry the pup along streets, don't take it to parks where there are lots of dogs and their mess. Get the pup out into the countryside/fields where there aren't dogs if you can: just until it's had the second jab ... but do get it out and about: even if you just stand at the end of the road holding the pup in your arms and letting it see the people and traffic go by. This is invaluable to the pup's development. 1 Quote Link to post
lawrence 657 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 i haven't bothered with the second jab in over a decade and never had a dog go down with anything and i'm in the city, though i don't exercise in parks and they have minimal contact with other dogs, i would get the pup out myself. Quote Link to post
wuyang 513 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 My vets told me not to take any of the other 3 dogs out until the pups had all her injections! That wasn't going to happen, but I could see his point. Quote Link to post
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