Different Dogs /different Methods

[whipbed 42]

there is always a difference of opinion on what type/cross of lurcher is best and which ones excell at different tasks.

i know that all dogs of all types are individuals and there are always exceptions which don,t conform to the norm for their type.

its not only how a dog is bred but also how it is reared that influences the end result.

so it appears that certain types suit some people and not others.

an example of this seems to be that some people are able to train saluki types and others find it very difficult.

the people who manage to train saluki types state that you have to know the correct techniques for training this particular type

so what i think would be useful would be to know what these different techniches are.

another example is collie type lurchers which some folks find easy and others difficult, so again there must be an effective way to train this type and also a not so good method.

there is such a vast array of types so i would be interested in the best way to bring on/train some of them.

as i,ve already said not all types conform to the norm but i think info on which techniques are best for different types would maybe help potential owners decide on what to go for as well as the type of job they have in mind.

i don,t really want this question to turn into a this type is better than that type argument.

i,m only interested in what owners have found successful with their type.

ta

[bird 10,013]

well really mate, it comes down to the person you are i think, to what you will get out of any breed dog you have . If you calm+patient well maybe you could get the best out of salukx type lurcher,a colliex type would be just as easy for you as well.But if you (lack) patient's well those type would not suite you. And all dogs differ in a litter , they will all have there on type temps, the trick is trying to pick 1 that will suite yout temp, and alot of times we dont.You may have great rabbit dog, or pre ban good fox+deer dog great at there job, but you might not get on with dog, and only look at it as a tool, because you just carnt gel to it.But keep it because its good at its job, but you dont like the animal .So its how serious you are with your hunting i think to what what you want from any dog really

[RossM 8,149]

IMO it's not the how to train, it's when, I bet a pound to a penny most of these hard to train dogs are are given too much too soon or just aren't ready for what they are being shown. It's easy to overload. Then there is only so much you can teach then it's down to the dog.

[whipbed 42]

thats good advice about your own temperement and helpful in helping decide on a particular type.

also probably true about entering too soon.

just trying to get a general overview on types but i suppose types of trainers/owners comes into it a lot

[jack68 628]

You can not train any breed of dog with a size 9 boot and that's were a lot of lads failure comes into it...atb

[Derek1962 50]

its all about patience,bonding with your lurcher,no matter what breed he is you can train him,taking your time from the start of your ownership of the dog,

[jukel123 8,920]

You can not train any breed of dog with a size 9 boot and that's were a lot of lads failure comes into it...atb

Size nine boot is useless except for whippets. Anything bigger -size twelve boots and a thick stick.

 

I'm only joking!

Edited October 31, 2013 by jukel123

[whipbed 42]

thanks for the replies

the general opinion is that its not the type of dog but the type of person that makes the dog

i,m pleased to hear this because it means that prejudice towards certain types is usually human error.

also if i decide to get another lurcher in the future i have a wider choice

[bigears 205]

As a few people on here know I used to keep lurchers , but for the last 5year I have kept bedlingtons , I have fetched them up the same way I did my lurchers , I mainly lamp them when they run something if they miss it they are straight back no fxxking about, yet when I have spoken to other bedlington owners they say if I let mine of in the dark I would never see them for hours if not again , plus they both work with rifle/shotgun will find a injured deer

[jukel123 8,920]

As a few people on here know I used to keep lurchers , but for the last 5year I have kept bedlingtons , I have fetched them up the same way I did my lurchers , I mainly lamp them when they run something if they miss it they are straight back no fxxking about, yet when I have spoken to other bedlington owners they say if I let mine of in the dark I would never see them for hours if not again , plus they both work with rifle/shotgun will find a injured deer

 

Would your bedlingtons have been more of a challenge if you had not had lurchers first?

I think most lads make mistakes with their first lurcher or gundog for that matter, but they learn from that and when they progress onto their next dog they don't repeat their mistakes.

Just out of interest, what strain are your bedlingtons?

Would they be able to find an injured fox?

[bigears 205]

Both of them are out of working parents , dog out of g Andrews and n,newburns bitch is out d robsons and a gamekeepers old dog called max, finding a injured fox don't know as they have not been work on them, fetching them up dog was a bit harder than the bitch. In fact the bitch is the cleverest dog I have owned

[darbo 4,776]

Both of them are out of working parents , dog out of g Andrews and n,newburns bitch is out d robsons and a gamekeepers old dog called max, finding a injured fox don't know as they have not been work on them, fetching them up dog was a bit harder than the bitch. In fact the bitch is the cleverest dog I have owned

old max was the grandfather to my dog a intelligent little dog a pleasure to own.

[bigears 205]

 

Both of them are out of working parents , dog out of g Andrews and n,newburns bitch is out d robsons and a gamekeepers old dog called max, finding a injured fox don't know as they have not been work on them, fetching them up dog was a bit harder than the bitch. In fact the bitch is the cleverest dog I have owned

 

old max was the grandfather to my dog a intelligent little dog a pleasure to own.

Are we talking Corbit of the working bedlington site

[darbo 4,776]

 

 

Both of them are out of working parents , dog out of g Andrews and n,newburns bitch is out d robsons and a gamekeepers old dog called max, finding a injured fox don't know as they have not been work on them, fetching them up dog was a bit harder than the bitch. In fact the bitch is the cleverest dog I have owned

old max was the grandfather to my dog a intelligent little dog a pleasure to own.

Are we talking Corbit of the working bedlington site

 

max out of sid and thistle. sid out of newcombes blue and venus. thistle out of newcombes stroller and tink and so on. yes max corbits dog.

Edited October 31, 2013 by darbo

[whipbed 42]

thats very interesting bigears that you lamp with your bedlingtons

do you do this in the same way that you would a lurcher?

also how do they compare with say a beddy/whippet at the job?

Edited October 31, 2013 by whipbed