smiffie23 67 Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 well me and gok planned to do a warren that is on our land but the bunnys feed on the feild next to ours. only when we got there most of the feild was a lake , geese on it the lot . . . exactly where the rabbits usually feed .lol . . any way we dropped the net more as practise than in hope. lol walked the feild and we saw odd one on far side but they hit the far side hedge.so lifted the net and went back to the warren we dropped last week. set the nets and did the walk. couple went of too one side but three hit the nets . . . . result. right good fun . stu battery was low on my phone and wouldnt let me use flash . cheers stu 1 Quote Link to post
The one 8,504 Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Your getting right into it now mate Quote Link to post
perthshire keeper 1,239 Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 its waht its about getting out their! and like you say its addictive! Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Well done, it is great just to get out. If you must use a lamp, use it wisley. In an area where rabbits are lamped often they often become lamp shy and bolt as soon as a lamp goes on them. You don't really want the rabbits bolting into the nets at high speed. You will catch more by walking the rabbits into the net. At the start of the season a wise man takes his lamp and visits their grounds and finds out where and what time the rabbits are feeding. Once he has that information he leaves the lamp at home. TC 2 Quote Link to post
smiffie23 67 Posted October 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Good advise that mate. We have just been flicking it behind them if you like. Kind of herding them in the right direction. Lucky we are on permission so that side is not a problem.but if we were to be just wondering round it would have to be in the dark. Lol. Quote Link to post
perthshire keeper 1,239 Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Well done, it is great just to get out. If you must use a lamp, use it wisley. In an area where rabbits are lamped often they often become lamp shy and bolt as soon as a lamp goes on them. You don't really want the rabbits bolting into the nets at high speed. You will catch more by walking the rabbits into the net. At the start of the season a wise man takes his lamp and visits their grounds and finds out where and what time the rabbits are feeding. Once he has that information he leaves the lamp at home. TC do you think they catch better when hopped into the net TC? rather than bolting? i was out last night and had 7 in 2 drops from a 50m net but i say 2 run at the net at full tilt when i got down to where they should have been they were not in? i think maybe they "cartwheel"over it or something like that if you get my drift! Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 do you think they catch better when hopped into the net TC? rather than bolting? i was out last night and had 7 in 2 drops from a 50m net but i say 2 run at the net at full tilt when i got down to where they should have been they were not in? i think maybe they "cartwheel"over it or something like that if you get my drift! In your case it could be many things that caused the rabbits not to be in the net. Did you tail the nets? When rabbits hit the net at full speed they stretch the netting taught and unless their heads go through a mesh are unlikley to get caught at the first go, they usually bounce and then try again, or run along the net and if the net is not tailed they will escape. When a rabbit is walked slowly into a net they usually try and push their way through a net, to do that they have to be standing on the net and that is when they get their claws tangled (especially with a double stranded net). Walk in to a field with rabbits in it in the day time and watch how they react, if they are out towards the centre of the field they will usually run towards the hedge or warren then stop, or if they are closer to saftey will hop towards the saftey, but nearly always they will stop before entering cover. It is that action that you want to replicate when walking the rabbits into net net at night. As with all things netting, that is just a general rule and not set in stone. Most will act like that but some will not, but there is not a lot that can be done about that i'm afraid. TC Quote Link to post
smiffie23 67 Posted October 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 do you think they catch better when hopped into the net TC? rather than bolting? i was out last night and had 7 in 2 drops from a 50m net but i say 2 run at the net at full tilt when i got down to where they should have been they were not in? i think maybe they "cartwheel"over it or something like that if you get my drift! In your case it could be many things that caused the rabbits not to be in the net. Did you tail the nets? When rabbits hit the net at full speed they stretch the netting taught and unless their heads go through a mesh are unlikley to get caught at the first go, they usually bounce and then try again, or run along the net and if the net is not tailed they will escape. When a rabbit is walked slowly into a net they usually try and push their way through a net, to do that they have to be standing on the net and that is when they get their claws tangled (especially with a double stranded net). Walk in to a field with rabbits in it in the day time and watch how they react, if they are out towards the centre of the field they will usually run towards the hedge or warren then stop, or if they are closer to saftey will hop towards the saftey, but nearly always they will stop before entering cover. It is that action that you want to replicate when walking the rabbits into net net at night. As with all things netting, that is just a general rule and not set in stone. Most will act like that but some will not, but there is not a lot that can be done about that i'm afraid. TC By tailed do you mean angled out towards the field . Quote Link to post
perthshire keeper 1,239 Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 do you think they catch better when hopped into the net TC? rather than bolting? i was out last night and had 7 in 2 drops from a 50m net but i say 2 run at the net at full tilt when i got down to where they should have been they were not in? i think maybe they "cartwheel"over it or something like that if you get my drift! In your case it could be many things that caused the rabbits not to be in the net. Did you tail the nets? When rabbits hit the net at full speed they stretch the netting taught and unless their heads go through a mesh are unlikley to get caught at the first go, they usually bounce and then try again, or run along the net and if the net is not tailed they will escape. When a rabbit is walked slowly into a net they usually try and push their way through a net, to do that they have to be standing on the net and that is when they get their claws tangled (especially with a double stranded net). Walk in to a field with rabbits in it in the day time and watch how they react, if they are out towards the centre of the field they will usually run towards the hedge or warren then stop, or if they are closer to saftey will hop towards the saftey, but nearly always they will stop before entering cover. It is that action that you want to replicate when walking the rabbits into net net at night. As with all things netting, that is just a general rule and not set in stone. Most will act like that but some will not, but there is not a lot that can be done about that i'm afraid. TC By tailed do you mean angled out towards the field . yes. i always kick the last 5 yards of net put into the field and if ime setting all 150m made up of 3 nets ile kick the end of each net out if that makes sense? the omount the "stops" catch is suprising! yeh TC i know what you mean. it would be good to video long netting useing NV and see just what happens! 1 Quote Link to post
smithie 2,443 Posted October 31, 2013 Report Share Posted October 31, 2013 Well done, it is great just to get out. If you must use a lamp, use it wisley. In an area where rabbits are lamped often they often become lamp shy and bolt as soon as a lamp goes on them. You don't really want the rabbits bolting into the nets at high speed. You will catch more by walking the rabbits into the net. At the start of the season a wise man takes his lamp and visits their grounds and finds out where and what time the rabbits are feeding. Once he has that information he leaves the lamp at home. TC do you think they catch better when hopped into the net TC? rather than bolting? i was out last night and had 7 in 2 drops from a 50m net but i say 2 run at the net at full tilt when i got down to where they should have been they were not in? i think maybe they "cartwheel"over it or something like that if you get my drift! might be better to hop in i dont know but i do find some hitting the net at speed not only get the head through the mesh but spin over the top line and get tangled a little more, them this makes it harder to get them out sometimes im talking trad net as the quickset top line is usually higher Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 By tailed do you mean angled out towards the field . Yes, You put a 90 degree angle with the last and first few yards of net so the net looks like └――――┘ instead of a straight line. It stops the rabbits running the length of the net if they bounce off the net. TC Quote Link to post
smiffie23 67 Posted November 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 Thanks for that I'll give that a bash next time. Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,677 Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 Good advice as ever from t.c.... Now not everybody is a fan of the Warrener,, including myself,,,however credit where it's due,,,he's done some good filming of nightime longnetting using trad nets ,,,, can't remember wich films,, think it might be ,,old ways of the poacher,, but there another clip on other films as well,, and as tc highlighted,, rabbits can quite clearly be seen to bounce,,,run along and try again at an angle... Good bits of film they are using a night vision Quote Link to post
lapin2008 1,587 Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 Good advice as ever from t.c.... Now not everybody is a fan of the Warrener,, including myself,,,however credit where it's due,,,he's done some good filming of nightime longnetting using trad nets ,,,, can't remember wich films,, think it might be ,,old ways of the poacher,, but there another clip on other films as well,, and as tc highlighted,, rabbits can quite clearly be seen to bounce,,,run along and try again at an angle... Good bits of film they are using a night vision Its is ways of the old poacher its in Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 might be better to hop in i dont know but i do find some hitting the net at speed not only get the head through the mesh but spin over the top line and get tangled a little more, them this makes it harder to get them out sometimes im talking trad net as the quickset top line is usually higher Smithie, do you angle your nets away from the oncoming rabbits? Most traditional netters do, and the reason for the angle is to allow more net to lay on the floor before the rabbits hit the wall of netting, thereby increasing the chances of the rabbits claws catching in the netting. Even when walked slow not every rabbit hops up to the net, but most do. Years ago I used to tail my nets at every drop and would catch a good percentage of the rabbits in the tails. Then watching some rabbits reaction when I was scouting out a drop one afternoon, it occured to me that if I could replicate the way the rabbits acted as I walked slowly down the field, (they knew I was there and were wary but not startled enough to make them bolt) perhaps I could make them enter the net slower thus allowing the net on the floor to do it's job. It worked for me and it has got to the point that I rarley tail my nets now as there was hardly ever a rabbit in the tails, and a fair percentage of the rabbits have the meshes around their claws. Of course it does not work every time, and a rabbit screaming and thumping will send the rest bolting for home no matter how slow you are walking. Maybe there is an advantage having so few rabbits to go at after all. TC Quote Link to post
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