Quitting The Edl

[tandors 888]

Thats not really how genetics and ethnicity works mate

[hutch6 550]

Can someone explain what makes someone "English" or "British" then and how, other than accents, I would stand out in a crowd of "Scottish" or "Welsh" folk?

 

There are a few statements here saying along the lines of "they will never be English" or "England will be lost forever", what is it that makes someone English and what makes England then?

 

I'm blond haired with blue eyes so viking with a bit of Anglo-Saxon mixed in

Edited October 29, 2013 by hutch6

[tandors 888]

Viking and english blood is the same mate all part of gernanic family along with scandinavia, germany, holland and parts of ireland and scotland aswell.

[Born Hunter 17,809]

Viking and english blood is the same mate all part of gernanic family along with scandinavia, germany, holland and parts of ireland and scotland aswell.

 

So does that make Germans and Scandanavians English?

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

My understanding of it is north west Europe were populated by the dame tribes that spread I head people call them the great northern tribes all one race that when in geographical areas became different nationalities over time each invading the other until we had some stability since 11 th century in thus country and it passes me off when people say there's no such thing as English if there isn't English there no other race based country anywhere else. And its the people who make the country if there was no English in England then call it what u like but it won't be English

[tandors 888]

Am I being ganged up on lol. I said it was the same branch of whites along with other groups such as Slavs and celts. At the end of the day it's a general discussion board of a hunting forum whatever gets put up is people's opinions and that's fine. It would be dull if we all felt the same. I just don't get how the vast majority of people have been brainwashed and as a result don't know or care of their own culture and race. It's only since ww2 where this "we're all the same just different colours" outlook on the world has come in and it seems only white people think that way, and if they don't they are racist. It is now seen as a radical view to want to live in a country where the population is white indigenous and that there's a good chance your grandchildren and their children etc will look like you. As I said just my take on it all, I don't want to offend anyone everyone's free to live their own lives how they see fit.

[Born Hunter 17,809]

Am I being ganged up on lol. I said it was the same branch of whites along with other groups such as Slavs and celts. At the end of the day it's a general discussion board of a hunting forum whatever gets put up is people's opinions and that's fine. It would be dull if we all felt the same. I just don't get how the vast majority of people have been brainwashed and as a result don't know or care of their own culture and race. It's only since ww2 where this "we're all the same just different colours" outlook on the world has come in and it seems only white people think that way, and if they don't they are racist. It is now seen as a radical view to want to live in a country where the population is white indigenous and that there's a good chance your grandchildren and their children etc will look like you. As I said just my take on it all, I don't want to offend anyone everyone's free to live their own lives how they see fit.

 

I don't think many people would find fault with that. What I personally find fault with is your logic behind it. You say your nationality is your race but at the same time say that genetically we are similar to our Germanic and Scandanavian cousins. So what, we're all the same nationality? English, German, French.....?

 

Secondly, the native Briton; What is one? If someone of similar race settles in this country then are they considered British/English (depending on your national association)? If not, are their children or grandchildren? At what point do you say, "yes they are now English"? Likewise with other races... If I had a Chinaman in my family tree 300 years ago am I still English or not? Where do you draw the line.

 

It's not that I oppose your view, I just can't get it clear in my head and never have been able to.

Edited October 29, 2013 by Born Hunter

[tandors 888]

The way I see it is there is always going to be what ifs, but that's no reason to go totally the other way and say we need to be a multi racial society. I honestly believe from what I've read that the white race is evolved differently from the other races, namely Asian and African, and for true diversity all branches of humanity should be preserved. I understand that there will always be people who want to marry out of their race and that's up to them but how is it racist to want the natural option of keeping it pure?

This quote for me echoes my thoughts on the issue we face today.

Nobody is saying that Africa needs diversity.

Nobody is saying that Asia needs diversity.

They are already 100% diverse.

People are only telling white children in white countries that they need diversity.

White countries will be 100% diverse when there are no white people left.

Diversity is a code-word for the genocide of white people.

Every white country on earth is supposed to become multicultural and multiracial.

Every white country is expected to end its own race and end its own culture. No one asks that of ANY non-white country.

The Netherlands is as crowded as Japan, Belgium is as crowded as Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve the RACE problem by bringing in millions of third-worlders and assimilating and intermarrying with them.

Everybody says the final solution to the RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to bring in the third world and assimilate with them.

Immigration, tolerance, and especially assimilation are being used against the white race.

All this immigration and intermarriage is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries.

Anti-white is called anti-racist, but it leads to the disappearance of one race and only one race, the white race. The real aim of anti-racism is to wipe out the white race or make it a minority anywhere it exists.

It is genocide.

[Born Hunter 17,809]

But that's because the immigration of whites tends to be to other predominantly white countries so there is rarely going to be a need to ask another ethnicity to accept their white immigrant population.

 

Personally I don't see ethnicity as an issue, I see any nation as a constantly evolving organism. Broadly homogeneous with the odd change here and there through history. Things, change, things evolve, I don't mind that, it's been happening through humankinds history. But I don't want things to change blindly, rapidly and in a non uniform manor. Immigration should be to the benefit of the nation, to the country and to it's people. Homogeneity is important for the sense of 'family' and belonging, mix it up too much too quickly and it causes isolationism and the sense of unity is lost.

 

I don't particularly believe my ethnicity supperior to others, I think our success has many many factors. That doesn't mean I'm not proud or generally feel more comfortable around similar people, ethnically, culturally etc etc.

[Ratreeper 441]

Not sure where all the white national stuff is coming from, the EDL is about confronting the extremists of religion, not the skin colour of the extremist. I am more concerned about what's going in someone's head than the colour of their hair, eyes or skin. It seems the height of ignorance and insecurity to try and say one colour is better, some of the things being spouted in this thread sound like something a child would say in a playground. It would do the world a favour if you read a book before forming an opinion (as long as the book isn't the Koran or Bible)

 

Here's the argument settler, we are ALL African since we all lived there a blink of an eye ago in evolutionary terms. It's nurture over nature where race is concerned for 99% of it.

 

All religion is poison, if Christians took their Bible as seriously as most Muslims take the Koran then slavery wouldn't be condemned by Christians, women would lose most of the rights that secular society gave them etc etc etc. You can't fight wrong with hypocrisy and more wrong.

[tandors 888]

That's if you subscribe to the out of Africa theory and don't believe in evolution.

[paulus 26]

Evolution can take millions of years, change can be achieved in seconds

[WILF 47,591]

The way I see it is there is always going to be what ifs, but that's no reason to go totally the other way and say we need to be a multi racial society. I honestly believe from what I've read that the white race is evolved differently from the other races, namely Asian and African, and for true diversity all branches of humanity should be preserved. I understand that there will always be people who want to marry out of their race and that's up to them but how is it racist to want the natural option of keeping it pure?

This quote for me echoes my thoughts on the issue we face today.

Nobody is saying that Africa needs diversity.

Nobody is saying that Asia needs diversity.

They are already 100% diverse.

People are only telling white children in white countries that they need diversity.

White countries will be 100% diverse when there are no white people left.

Diversity is a code-word for the genocide of white people.

Every white country on earth is supposed to become multicultural and multiracial.

Every white country is expected to end its own race and end its own culture. No one asks that of ANY non-white country.

The Netherlands is as crowded as Japan, Belgium is as crowded as Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve the RACE problem by bringing in millions of third-worlders and assimilating and intermarrying with them.

Everybody says the final solution to the RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to bring in the third world and assimilate with them.

Immigration, tolerance, and especially assimilation are being used against the white race.

All this immigration and intermarriage is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries.

Anti-white is called anti-racist, but it leads to the disappearance of one race and only one race, the white race. The real aim of anti-racism is to wipe out the white race or make it a minority anywhere it exists.

It is genocide.

 

I don't really go with the Aryan stuff but I have to say the last two thirds of your post are one of the best things I have ever read and absolutely true.

I honestly had never thought of things that way.

 

As for the Christianity being a crock, well it very well maybe, but as more people have turned away from our traditional religion so the void had been filled by those with another strong beliefe system..........makes you think

[gnasher16 30,458]

 

 

everybody who is an asset to this country is welcome to become British in my book, regardless of race.creed or religion providing theres a need here for immigration , as long as being british is seen as the continuation of this nations laws and traditions and not a continuation of where they have come from.

 

For me this is where the changes through the generations become obvious.......today some would call these statements above as being bordering racist or vaguely patriotic at least.....it could probably of been read straight out of a Ukip pamphlet id imagine..........yet to me being from a different generation vaguely patriotic person it sounds pathetic bordering on feebly weak !..........

 

Just because some African tribesman with a yellow tea towell wrapped round his bollocks and a bolt through his neck can sing the national anthem and hold a conversation in our language doesnt make him the slightest bit British...........so as long as Waheed Sheikh Qureshi tows the line and can lay a decent brick he too can be British like us ....... this for me is where we are subconsciously being brainwashed and forced to compromise on what is true and pure in order to desperately cling onto some form of pride in being British........so if this is the benchmark for " our Ukip "......you can shove it up your arse as far as im concerned !

 

No offence at all intended to Paulus by the way or any other Ukip lot.

you miss the point "providing there is a need for immigration" if the bloke wearing a yellow tea towel was the worlds foremost authority on nuclear fusion would you rather he went to north korea?. or take the NHS thousands of nursing posts unfilled and not enough british trained nurses to fill them. would you rather less nurses on the wards until we have trained enough british nurses. Im sorry mate but race as a purity was over as soon as man started to wonder past his own borders after all we are all one race, "The Human Race". The difference in reality is only skin deep. all differences are usually man made in some way shape or form. Being british is conforming to what makes someone british, Thinking you're something superior is the reason the word racist was invented,

Its all a bit late in the day to start being sensible.....its sensible and fair that got us in this mess !..... Far as im concerned this country needs rebuilding from the bottom up if that means taking 2 steps back to eventually go 3 steps forward thats how it has to be.......all this " we need immigration " is todays societies way of controlling our thoughts in my opinion.

[paulus 26]

 

 

 

everybody who is an asset to this country is welcome to become British in my book, regardless of race.creed or religion providing theres a need here for immigration , as long as being british is seen as the continuation of this nations laws and traditions and not a continuation of where they have come from.

For me this is where the changes through the generations become obvious.......today some would call these statements above as being bordering racist or vaguely patriotic at least.....it could probably of been read straight out of a Ukip pamphlet id imagine..........yet to me being from a different generation vaguely patriotic person it sounds pathetic bordering on feebly weak !..........

 

Just because some African tribesman with a yellow tea towell wrapped round his bollocks and a bolt through his neck can sing the national anthem and hold a conversation in our language doesnt make him the slightest bit British...........so as long as Waheed Sheikh Qureshi tows the line and can lay a decent brick he too can be British like us ....... this for me is where we are subconsciously being brainwashed and forced to compromise on what is true and pure in order to desperately cling onto some form of pride in being British........so if this is the benchmark for " our Ukip "......you can shove it up your arse as far as im concerned !

 

No offence at all intended to Paulus by the way or any other Ukip lot.

you miss the point "providing there is a need for immigration" if the bloke wearing a yellow tea towel was the worlds foremost authority on nuclear fusion would you rather he went to north korea?. or take the NHS thousands of nursing posts unfilled and not enough british trained nurses to fill them. would you rather less nurses on the wards until we have trained enough british nurses. Im sorry mate but race as a purity was over as soon as man started to wonder past his own borders after all we are all one race, "The Human Race". The difference in reality is only skin deep. all differences are usually man made in some way shape or form. Being british is conforming to what makes someone british, Thinking you're something superior is the reason the word racist was invented,

Its all a bit late in the day to start being sensible.....its sensible and fair that got us in this mess !..... Far as im concerned this country needs rebuilding from the bottom up if that means taking 2 steps back to eventually go 3 steps forward thats how it has to be.......all this " we need immigration " is todays societies way of controlling our thoughts in my opinion.

 

pol pot tried returning to day 1 in cambodia and what happened