"gypsy's" Stealing Kids?!?

[*The*Field*Marshall* 674]

Well, I personally feel there are a lot of misinformed folk out there. . Before I elaborate further, I know better than most that there are many "Gypsy's" who have well deserved the tags that have been attached to them and consequently have given the rest a bad name with there lurcher stealing, led taking, copper stealing antics and so on etc. . just like a whole lot of non traveling folks. . But stealing kids?!? Let me tell you, travellers are not interested in stealing kids! It's not like they haven't got enough of there own!

 

As soon as I seen the story of Maria on the news, said to be "nicked by the Gypsy's" I said to my mother and wife, that girl wasn't nicked! She was probably given up by some Eastern European prostitute who couldn't look after the child. . As it happens, that looks to be the case. Then two children were WRONGLY taken off some irish travellers in two separate incidents because "suspicions" were raised. . My days! I think I'd shoot someone if they tried to take my dog let alone my child!! Disgraceful, outrageous.

 

Travellers, Gypsy's, Roma's, whatever you want to call them, do not nick kids, that's a horrible myth and one that should not be entertained, they have a very strong sense of unity and are very much family orientated. So much in fact that even a Bulgarian prostitute who couldn't look after her child knew this, she gave the girl to the gypsies! Where she knew it would be well cared for. .

 

Now let me attempt to diminish another myth, which is all "travellers" are the same, this is not true, let me define the differences within them all. . Whilst there are many people who travel, new agers etc, I'm going to refer to the three groups you're most likely to encounter on these lands. . 1: Irish travellers, they're usually the ones that you see stopped in car parks, side of the road, or generally anywhere they can. Some would say many of this group are not genuine traveling people. 2: English travellers, generally far more reserved than there Irish counterparts, you'll find them on permanent sites and there own plot of land etc. .

 

Now for 3: the Romany's or "Roma's" as people have been saying, this term should really be thought of as more of a ethnic origin now, in Britain at least, rather than a people group as they once were. Similar to Berbers of Morocco, they've filtered out into other traveling communities and even non traveling communities. . These are group are dark skinned people, said to originally be from Northern India. . If folk were a little better educated, they wouldn't be so suspicious and kids would not be unnecessarily traumatised by being taken away from their family's.

 

As said before, I spent the first 17 years of my life traveling this country over, I've spent a lot of time with travellers, so much in fact that I married one! A girl heavily influenced by romany origin. I've got a little brother-in-law who's blonde haired and blued eyed and a little sister-in-law who's got dark hair and dark eyes! Anyone would think my mother-in-law had a fling with the milkman! As it is she's dark and my father-in-law is fair!

 

As for the notion poor little Maddie McCann was taken by gypsies, well, if only. . My fear is that little lass is being kept in an unspeakable layer and visited by abominable men. . In which case she would be better off dead. . Still, we live in hope and pray for a fairy tale ending.

[marshman 7,758]

I did have long piece written out but it boils down to this travellers have been blamed for choring children for century's and it always seems to crop up when a child disappears that the police cannot find. Fortunately there are some people are intelligent enough to realise there's good and bad in every breed. Then they're some that point blank refuse and would burn a family just because there to thick to realise that two brown haired people can have a blonde child ?.

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

The latest in the news is that the Greek girl ('Maria') is a Roma child. Her parents are Bulgarian and her father has a gene which could be responsible for her fair looks. Her mother has twice been questioned by the police for selling children...

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

its me your on about and 2 brown hair people can have blond kids but 2 browned skinned people don't usually throw back to white genes that often. its a good point about not nicking the kids im glad that's how you see it wrong aswell. another point was it travellers who were busted for enslaving migrant workers? is that not similar to stealing people? not looking a row in just asking

[Born Hunter 17,820]

The police are damned if they do and damned if they don't. It's not like they just went, "Oi, that little girl doesn't look much like you pair, we'll be taking her". I think I'm right in saying suspicion was raised and then after a few enquiries the 'parents' stories didn't add up so action was taken untill the truth could be revealed.

[marshman 7,758]

its me your on about and 2 brown hair people can have blond kids but 2 browned skinned people don't usually throw back to white genes that often. its a good point about not nicking the kids im glad that's how you see it wrong aswell. another point was it travellers who were busted for enslaving migrant workers? is that not similar to stealing people? not looking a row in just asking

Fair play listen if a travellers have taken a child for whatever reason then ill be the first to say " hang em" but some are to quick to judge without a shred of evidence! As for travellers enslaving people or doing anything wrong for that matter I can't defend them and I wouldn't .

[skycat 6,174]

The child in Dublin was taken because 1) the mother had registered at the maternity hospital in her maiden name and it didn't look like the child had been born there, as the mother stated, 2) because the child's name had been changed and was no longer the same as on the birth certificate, and I think there was a third reason, I can't remember. Glitches with paperwork!

 

Does anyone remember the case, many years ago, when a whole host of kids were taken from their families on some (I think) Scottish island: amid fears of abuse? Can't remember the details, but again, it was a case of someone raising an alarm, and the police going in mob handed. Don't even remember what the outcome was. But whatever the law/social do, they'll be in the wrong somewhere along the line. They have to follow up suspicions but get hauled over the coals when they're wrong. Better to jump in straight off than let a child be abused/kidnapped: but how is it that there are still so many poor kids who slip through the net and then are tortured and murdered by their parents?

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

 

its me your on about and 2 brown hair people can have blond kids but 2 browned skinned people don't usually throw back to white genes that often. its a good point about not nicking the kids im glad that's how you see it wrong aswell. another point was it travellers who were busted for enslaving migrant workers? is that not similar to stealing people? not looking a row in just asking

Fair play listen if a travellers have taken a child for whatever reason then ill be the first to say " hang em" but some are to quick to judge without a shred of evidence! As for travellers enslaving people or doing anything wrong for that matter I can't defend them and I wouldn't .

 

I don't blame travellers for maddie, I blame her parents, who da fcuk in their right minds sedates kids and fcuks off out to dinner? them 2 parents are suffering the consequinces of their actions.

[Malt 379]

Aint the Roma and Romany/Romani different? Thought one was an offshoot of the other.

[marshman 7,758]

Aint the Roma and Romany/Romani different? Thought one was an offshoot of the other.

yes mate were all different even say the ones at the other end of my own county that are the same " breed" as me are very different let alone ones from another country . I can even tell by the way they write on here even when they don't let on there travellers and nobody knows they're travellers but I do ?

[fazza123 517]

 

The police are damned if they do and damned if they don't. It's not like they just went, "Oi, that little girl doesn't look much like you pair, we'll be taking her". I think I'm right in saying suspicion was raised and then after a few enquiries the 'parents' stories didn't add up so action was taken untill the truth could be revealed.[/quote

 

Exactly ! If they was wrong a 100 times and right once then there actions would be worth while...

[neems 2,406]

I thought our Romany gypsies were an off shoot of the Roma ones.

 

Roma are known to sell their own kids (i know 2 girls who were bought off gypsies in romania) as well as stealing/pick pocketing,so combining the 2 isn't completely implausible,is it?

 

Ask pretty much any Eastern European about them and you'll hear some bad stories.

[marshman 7,758]

I thought our Romany gypsies were an off shoot of the Roma ones.

 

Roma are known to sell their own kids (i know 2 girls who were bought off gypsies in romania) as well as stealing/pick pocketing,so combining the 2 isn't completely implausible,is it?

 

Ask pretty much any Eastern European about them and you'll hear some bad stories.

you know someone that bought two gypsy girls please tell me that person ain't a nonce ?

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

I thought our Romany gypsies were an off shoot of the Roma ones.

 

Roma are known to sell their own kids (i know 2 girls who were bought off gypsies in romania) as well as stealing/pick pocketing,so combining the 2 isn't completely implausible,is it?

 

Ask pretty much any Eastern European about them and you'll hear some bad stories.

in 05 I was working down ballinderry doing timberframed housing, there was 4 Slovakians I used to give a lift too my own age, these were smart men all taking a break from uni for the summer to earn a few quid then went home. this day a wankstain from here pulls up in a vw minibus and out pops about 8 brown roma gypsies talking their language, the 4 who were working along with me jumpd down off the scaffolding and talked to the foreman about th risk to the site and equipment from theft from these people. next thing all hell breaks loose and the slovs get straight into them after it was all sorted out the foreman asked what happened, then the slovs all said they plan to do over the site and they shopped their meeting.

[Outlaw Pete 2,224]

I was talking about the Greek girl in the pub, the other day. Lovely little bit of media spun, Anti Gypsy propaganda.

 

All on the same news site. Day one, they're referring to " A Greek Roma Camp / The Roma ".

 

Couldn't f**king believe my eyes when, day two, it's " Roma (Also known as 'Gypsys') " I'm like; Here we f**king go!

 

Day three? " Gypsys ". No longer Greek. Not Roma. They're in Police custody and now they're just plain f**king Gypsys. And Gypsys steal ye children FFS

 

 

That aside; How much do ye think kiddies like that " Baby P ". Or the poor little f**ker who left to starve to death, eating his own shit. Kids like that. How much do ye think they'd have liked the life this little maggot's had? Look at her. Spotlessly clean and in abundantly sparkling health. Loved to f**king bits!

 

Ye seen the film of her dancing, on the site? She's got the moves to make a grown man cry! Happy little creature!

 

Oh. Or she was. Now she's in a state of shock and confusion. Because she's been Stolen from the people who worshipped her and she doubtlessly loved too.

 

Just blame those f**king Gypsys though, eh?