danw 1,748 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 it isnt too late to fix your problem cull at day one or cull at 10 weeks it makes no difference 1 Quote Link to post
B.P.R 2,798 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) I didnt say that wasnt responsible..... its one way to do business..... But its not irrresponsible keeping the full litter.... putting your all into them and getting them good homes.... ofcourse its not easy.... but its upto the person breeding... Too many people think thats their way of doing things is the only way.... which it isnt.... not aimed at you BTW... Edited October 27, 2013 by B.P.R 1 Quote Link to post
alan81 110 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) I have a pit bull bitch due any day now there's 4 homes waiting for pups since before she was lined, she came from a litter of 13 and by the look of her she could have 13 herself. there's the pup im keeping and homes for 4 more so if she has 13 there will be 8 left and I will in my fukc cull them, they could be good working dogs or pets for someone. I wouldn't leave all 13 on her for 8 weeks I would leave 5 maybe 6 on her after 4 weeks when they were all eating solids. you cant pick a pup at one day old unless your picking for colour alone. I have no problem in culling siht dogs Iv culled enough of them but at least give them a chance first. Edited October 26, 2013 by alan81 1 Quote Link to post
fazza123 517 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Easy I wanted my bitch to have 4 and she had 4.. I did not have to struggle for homes coz they had them buy time they where born !You must be a magician Magic it is not,bitch whelps and resposible owner acts accordingly,the less responsible leave a full litter,struggle to find decent homes,post a sob story because they are to tight to donate a fiver and advertise them,then the desperation kicks in and the pups will be thrown at anybody showing slight interest in them,thus the majority of another litter on the lurcher merry-go-round of piss poor homes and neglect. Talking from experience ? Lol Your bang right there. I'm personally not someone that could cull but as I am responsible for the litter I'd get someone round that would cull for me Quote Link to post
wi11ow 2,657 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 AND THIS IS WHY THE DOGS HOMES ARE FULL OF LURCHERS 7 Quote Link to post
C Hall 552 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 More pups for the merry go round, pick what you want and cull the rest NOW instead of whinging about it on here ffs Save them the misery of being passed from pillar to post all there lives 3 Quote Link to post
nasher1 258 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 this is why i dont breed my lurchers. dogs or bitches. there are a lot of quality dogs bred by folk that hav;nt thought things through properly. there is a pool of quality animals that you can take your pic from and help them into a life they need. therefore lessening the problem. or you can breed more. and make the problem grow. hope you find good working homes for your exess I have a bitch here which is coming up 6 years old it would appear that she's barren, she turned out to be a really good animal so was a bit disappointed at first but I think it is a bit of a blessing as said there are so many litters on the ground these days its far easier to buy a pup in than go through all the hassle. 3 Quote Link to post
skycat 6,174 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Seems to me that too many people have a mistaken idea of how easy it is to sell a litter. Or do they just say hey, I'll breed a litter cos I like the bitch, and I'm sure to find other people who think the same? Nowadays there's so many lurchers being bred that unless your dog/bitch are really well known, and in the right circles, even a smaller litter is hard to find homes for. Trouble is, no one listens to those who have been in that unhappy situation. It's a case of learning by experience, and whilst that might be hard enough for the breeder of a litter, it's a damn sight harder for the pups that get passed from one unsuitable home to the next before ending up dumped/straying/ in pounds and rescues. Even if you thoroughly vet potential buyers (how many really do that?) there's no guarantee the new owner won't get bored/lose their house/job/wife/husband etc. Sh*t happens in life to even the best people, and the dog is usually the first to go or pay the price. I've done a veritable Spanish inquisition on potential owners in the past, and still come unstuck! You only have to look on sites like Pets4Homes or Preloved to see the huge numbers of lurchers being bred these days. I'd recommend anyone breeding a litter to take a long hard look at these sites before deciding to breed. And yes, if I ever breed again, I'll cull, and cull hard, as I have done before. It's not nice, not easy, but I can't stand the thought of one of my pups doing the rounds: better off dead than abused/neglected/dumped etc. 11 Quote Link to post
bedx 51 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 is it better to have lived and lost,then never to have lived at all ? ;-) Quote Link to post
danw 1,748 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 is it better to have lived and lost,then never to have lived at all ? ;-) To me being alive and living are very different things. Quote Link to post
skycat 6,174 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 is it better to have lived and lost,then never to have lived at all ? ;-) That's a weird thing to say when talking about dogs. Fair enough if you're talking about yourself, trying something new, and failing, but when you are responsible for the welfare of another living creature, I can't see how that would apply. Yes, we may lose something, such as a bit of sleep, or worry endlessly about how our pups are doing, but that is nothing compared to the lifetime of pain/neglect which is suffered by so many dogs whose owners don't seem to see the difference between an inanimate object (such as a car/gun/nintendo etc etc) and a living, sentient creature. Fair enough if we were talking about breeding bugs or crickets: the lower animals which don't have emotions and feelings, but the thought that I was responsible, through my negligence, for the suffering of a dog would really, really bother me. I once sold a pup to someone I knew a bit, thought he was OK, but turned out that I misread him completely. I still feel bad about that dog, knowing that it spent its life stuck in a little kennel, and that it's owner spent as much attention to it as he would have a goldfish in a bowl. Times I wanted to go and shoot the dog to put it out of its misery, and the b*****d wouldn't sell it back to me even though he didn't really want it. Kinda puts you off breeding unless you really know the people you are selling too. 5 Quote Link to post
bobby blackheart 1,209 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 with all you perfect dog owners/breeders on here im suprised theres all these dogs on the merry go round?to many double standards in the dog world people on here selling pups from proven dogs(2 yr old )rinsing folk for 300 notes plus and talking shit-they,re the cnuts that should be culling at birth-most wont have the heart mind when they can sell them for that money-saluki boys can have 10+ but dont cull and you all stuck up theyre arses when % of them are f***ing slippery f***ing dog thieves that cant bare anyone else having better dogs than them fact-i joined this site to find 3 stolen saluki/grey pups-we know who arranged for them to be taken and the strange thing is that quite a few of the thl elite members are stuck to this cnuts arse but then they know who they are what goes around comes around folks and one day you will wake up and find they have done the same to you-justice will be done and i will still have my freedom do as to others-as you would be done yourself-water babies i think and remember people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.live your own lives and dont worry what other folks get up to unless it personally affects you-rant over enjoy the rest of your day Quote Link to post
Hot Meat 3,109 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Ffs Bobby half a story, you got summat to say then spit it out... never took you as type to be scared to tell truth from where I'm Sat tho it seems your ranting for nowt, if you know who the dog thieves are and yet won't say, well I'm afraid to say pal that puts you in same league as scummy flookers.... 4 Quote Link to post
alan81 110 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 lads the reason there's so many dogs in rescues and been passed around is not because people don't cull pups its because people don't cull grown dogs when they prove to be dirt and then breed from them and there pups prove to be dirt and so on. if everyone got the pup or pups they wanted gave them a chance and done away with the siht and only bred from good dogs there would be a lot less unwanted dogs out there and when people are willing to pay £200 + for a lurcher pup that's not helping either in Ireland you would be lucky to get euro for a lurcher pup. when people can get £200 or £300 for a lurcher pup every dick head who doesn't give a siht will breed away. it makes no sense to me to cull half a litter when you could be culling the best dogs. look at the American stag hounds there tried hard and the dirt culled and they have a good standard of a working dog. if more people were in it for the love of working dogs and not for money the sport would be a lot better of. 2 Quote Link to post
bedx 51 Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 skcat that's weird thinking my reajusted quote was anything to do with my life Quote Link to post
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