Joe67 239 Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Need some advice with pup biting. She's only 8 weeks old, probaly playing, when she's hyper/excited she likes to grab and tug trousers, bite hand, arm etc. I've tryed letting her do it as she's probaly playing but times she does go to far, using toys to take attention away from biting, tryed saying no and gently pushing head away, don't wanna hurt as I know it won't help later Because she's so young no expecting any over night results, maybe some pointers on best way dealing with this that won't effect any future training, am I best leaving her to it? We also have two cats in house, one at 12 moths and another 8 month, any advice getting them used to each other? Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,173 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 You're doing the right thing with offering her toys she can bite. The other thing to do is to yelp loudly if her teeth connect with your skin. If a pup is playing with other pups, and it hurts them, they yelp shrilly. This teaches pups to control their bites when playing with each other. Thing is, human skin is much thinner and more sensitive than a dog's skin, so your pup needs to learn to control her bite even more. When she bites you, yelp, and turn away, remove your hand, foot. If she carries on, growl savagely at her, saying NO in a nasty tone of voice. If that doesn't work, hold her scruff (don't lift her off the ground or swing her or anything violent) just hold her scruff, growl and say NO: that mimics her own mother's reaction if the pup had hurt her. Pups learn a huge amount from their littermates and mothers providing they have been allowed to stay with them long enough. All you need to do is set boundaries and stick by them. If you are unfortunate enough to have a pup that is a real hell raiser, then scruffing and saying NO might not be enough, especially if you have a pup with a real fiery temperament. If she gets into the 'red mist' zone, then isolate her by picking her up firmly (again, no violence or anger whatsoever, just calm and controlling) and caging her or putting her in another room for a few moments until she calms down: canine naughty step. Don't worry, she will grow out of it so long as you are consistent and firm. I've had pups which growled savagely at me when I picked them up if they were over excited through play. With very slightly older pups: 12 weeks plus, I sometimes put my hand round their muzzles saying the words 'no biting'. They generally learn very fast. It is important to never hurt the pup, or aggress it in any way: aggression breeds aggression. Always be calm and in control: sorry, that bit needed repeating a few times. Cats: depends on the cats' temperament. I used to let my cat dish out discipline to pups, but I trusted him not to damage the pup. Put them on the floor together, hold on to the pup, let them sniff each other. If the pup tries to jump on the cats, which it probably will do, then say NO, remove pup, put back on floor. Start over again. What you want is a pup that knows cats aren't to be jumped on or played with, unless the cat wants to of course. I've had cats which loved wrestling with pups, jumping on their backs and lion killing them in play. Both loved the game. Just be prepared to step in and calm pup down if things get too rough or cats are scared. Best to let them get totally familiar with each other while the pup is tiny. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe67 239 Posted October 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Another helpfull post skycat, cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 all pups need to learn boundaries the only way they learn is by correction whether that be by voice or physical, watch how a bitch will correct a pup if it oversteps the mark, its quick and instant pups soon learn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casso 1,261 Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 Need some advice with pup biting. She's only 8 weeks old, probaly playing, when she's hyper/excited she likes to grab and tug trousers, bite hand, arm etc. I've tryed letting her do it as she's probaly playing but times she does go to far, using toys to take attention away from biting, tryed saying no and gently pushing head away, don't wanna hurt as I know it won't help later Because she's so young no expecting any over night results, maybe some pointers on best way dealing with this that won't effect any future training, am I best leaving her to it? We also have two cats in house, one at 12 moths and another 8 month, any advice getting them used to each other? Cheers People seem to have a huge fear that if you don't confront or correct a pup that it will not grow up to be social in fact it's going to become a complete monster with no idea of what we want or just go round like some sort of feral animal , seems it has to learn through correction in other words So a pup stumbles from one confrontation to another figuring out how to get by without a correction , slowly by surely zoning out the human involved The biggest thing I learnt about pups is to Manage them , like any other young animal so it can't put itself in harms way , we treat young pups completely different than any other young animal , we associate fear with respect and set boundaries as such, Manage a pup so it can't get itself worked up , manage it so we don't need to correct it , it's hard but it's worth it , I don't take a hands on approach with a pup I watch and learn , keep him from getting himself into situation he is not emotionally ready for yet , and that's the biggest problem ,he's driven but can't deal with the confrontation emotionally that follows , pups should be managed not to keep them from us but us from them Drive will make the pup social , sensual and sexual and drive are all linked together , it gives a pup purpose and a wanting to fit as long as we have not laid down a legacy of confrontation Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe67 239 Posted November 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 just seen the above post, thanks so far not having much luck, shes crazy lol.. shes trying to play but going to far, she managed to grip other halfs nose other night (she was raging, at me not the pup lol), went to far with me another time, manged to jump up and take a snap at my face, pulled back in time. sooner she grows out of it the better lol, or ill be kicked out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casso 1,261 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) I don't know how you are with dogs or what experience you have but one tip I have for ya is not to play with the pup in the house, It makes associations with places and excitement levels , if it's used to getting worked up in the house it will have energy to burn and since it's attracted to you it wants to let off steam with you plus dogs de stress by grabbing and shaking when they have an energy overload I would bet pound to a penny that the pup feels the house is a play area and is just dealing with what it feels inside, Most cases where dogs are flipping out in the house, whining , tearing up shit , all that stuff is after a history of house play from puppy hood A dog never forgets the physical memory of catching a rabbit in a particular field , he gets the feeling back every time he goes through the gate , it energises him It's exactly the same shit going on in the house , inside calm , outside play , same place for play outside every time, inside then hands off , no stimulation. Let him run round outside and play his bollix off, back in and into a crate and relax , Edited November 2, 2013 by Casso 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe67 239 Posted November 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 edit: ive just as much to learn as pup mate, first one. aye we are gulity of playing with her in house, she gets really hyper in living room. ill give that a bash, makes sense. cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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