gonetoearth 5,144 Posted October 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Facts facts facts well do you think if on monday morning the disolved the nhs and replaced it with private health care the british public would benifit from any money that might become availible. Or would some over sight commitee set up to over see the transition period have it , the nhs is over run by managers middle managers and exsecutives fact. The drain need incerting in the right place if the stomach is bloted get rid of the shit !!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Do people really believe that immigrants are the cause of the NHS costs? I mean seriously? As of 2012 these are the employers with the largest workforce. This is globally. U.S Department Of Defense. 3.2m People's Liberation Army. 2.3m China Railway Engineering Corporation. 2.2m Walmart. 2.1m McDonald's. 1.9m The NHS. 1.7m The NHS employs more people, in Britain, than ANYONE ELSE. 200,000 less people than McDonald's does GLOBALLY. 600,000 less than the conscripted Chinese army! Does that not strike anyone here as completely f*****g batshit insane? You seriously think our money is being spent on the immigrant problem?! 1 in 38 people, in the whole f*****g country, work for the clusterfuck that is the NHS! Be interesting to dissect that figure and see how many are actually doctors, nurses and other healthcare professionals.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 If they privatized the NHS the British public would not see a penny. We'd still pay the tax too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted October 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 If they privatized the NHS the British public would not see a penny. We'd still pay the tax too.. So why Put up the facts your answering your own qestion ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) Be interesting to dissect that figure and see how many are actually doctors, nurses and other healthcare professionals.. Mal, if it were just quality healthcare professionals I don't think any man, woman, or child, would have an issue. How many are admin staff, and just how many people do we need to pay, as a taxpayer? The NHS is a maelstrom... Money pours in. It whirls around, gets sucked down, and simply f*****g disappears. Like all local government, only a national scale. With that number of employees we should be able to get operations instantly. In a hospital that is so clean, and free from secondary infections, that you'd have to wear gowns just to visit the place... However the government has it's fingers around it, and they've cleverly been able to direct everyone's attention to immigrants bleeding the system... Once again the home grown criminals win. Follow the money! Edited October 25, 2013 by ChrisJones 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 . So why Put up the facts your answering your own qestion ?? Because this entire thread is based at blaming none UK nationals. I'm calling bullshit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 I know a couple in London, who probably take home about 150k plus a year, when they had their baby, they said the NHS care was minimal......I said why didn't you go private?......you can afford it right? They said they just didn't get round to it.......thousands of couples like that......if I go to the docs here, I actually hand €50 cash over......best service I've ever had......start means testing in England, make upper middle class pay.....it's the only way to save it......you just have to get over it's everyone's right Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted October 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 . So why Put up the facts your answering your own qestion ?? Because this entire thread is based at blaming none UK nationals. I'm calling bullshit. . I put it up. So you think people dont come here for medi care or dont contibute to are system , you dont think its wrong that we are the health service for the down trodden of the eu and commenwelth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 . I put it up. So you think people dont come here for medi care or dont contibute to are system , you dont think its wrong that we are the health service for the down trodden of the eu and commenwelth We all know that's the case. People do come here for free health care and don't contribute to the system. But how many of these people aren't foreigners? You know the 3-4 generations of home grown shit, that have never paid in but always taken out? Why do all these General Talk threads blame everyone else except the real deal hardcore reasons for the shit it's in in the first place? To say that EU economic migrants are the reason for the strain on the NHS, while ignoring it's 1.7m employees is asinine. These people are paid entirely from taxpayers money. They provide a service for the government and they have no goods, or services, that can be bought, by us, to create any kind of revenue to offset the 100% cost to the taxpayer. Until the British public accept that free health care isn't, and never has been, free then we'll continue to be bled... The problem goes beyond brown skinned people and all the way to Westminster. Doesn't matter how many passports you check it will not fix any problem until the whole rotten system is taken to task for what it is. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted October 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 . I put it up. So you think people dont come here for medi care or dont contibute to are system , you dont think its wrong that we are the health service for the down trodden of the eu and commenwelth We all know that's the case. People do come here for free health care and don't contribute to the system. But how many of these people aren't foreigners? You know the 3-4 generations of home grown shit, that have never paid in but always taken out? Why do all these General Talk threads blame everyone else except the real deal hardcore reasons for the shit it's in in the first place? To say that EU economic migrants are the reason for the strain on the NHS, while ignoring it's 1.7m employees is asinine. These people are paid entirely from taxpayers money. They provide a service for the government and they have no goods, or services, that can be bought, by us, to create any kind of revenue to offset the 100% cost to the taxpayer. Until the British public accept that free health care isn't, and never has been, free then we'll continue to be bled... The problem goes beyond brown skinned people and all the way to Westminster. Doesn't matter how many passports you check it will not fix any problem until the whole rotten system is taken to task for what it is. . Who is blaming brown skinned people not i. Try going to a hostpital and listern to the accents. Think you will find its eastern Europeans Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Who is blaming brown skinned people not i. Try going to a hostpital and listern to the accents. Think you will find its eastern Europeans It doesn't matter whether it's skin colour, accent, religious persuasion, or sexuality. Eastern European, western, African, Asian, Antarctican! They're only a minimal, tiny, part of 1.7million employee equation! If you were physically able to remove all foreigners, from NHS treatment, tomorrow, it would make zero difference to anything we complain about in the NHS. The hospitals would still be dirty. You'd still wait 6 months to see a doctor. They'd still be closing A&E's. Most importantly they'll still be employing nearly two million people while blaming the problem on something other than what it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Lol most people would rather spend £50 a month on a million f****ng sky channels they don't watch, than health care, my bank gave me the option years ago, £50 for private health care, I thought it was too much....I spent on the money on the piss instead.....it go's way deeper than health tourists lol.....another convenient excuse for us as a nation being f***ing lazy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Lol most people would rather spend £50 a month on a million f****ng sky channels they don't watch, than health care, my bank gave me the option years ago, £50 for private health care, I thought it was too much....I spent on the money on the piss instead.....it go's way deeper than health tourists lol.....another convenient excuse for us as a nation being f***ing lazy Ironically we spend way more than that, on health care, but because we don't get an itemized bill we assume it's free! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted October 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Lol most people would rather spend £50 a month on a million f****ng sky channels they don't watch, than health care, my bank gave me the option years ago, £50 for private health care, I thought it was too much....I spent on the money on the piss instead.....it go's way deeper than health tourists lol.....another convenient excuse for us as a nation being f***ing lazy. Lol a lazy nation. Yeh yeh more. Shit. Jamie olivers brethren , Harworking eastern europeans lol. Shit them couldent pull a nigger of me tart. , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted October 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Remember lek the polish ship yard worker came running to the num for soladarity the polish ship yards stricking and the british uinions backing them. Now the shite hawks walk in any take there old comrades jobs for half the pay , memorys give me any nation germany french any but the polish white pakis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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