Dan McDonough 560 Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 E-collars are awesome! Every dog I own is trained to recall when I push the tone function. They hear beep-beep-beep and stop and come straight to me. This holds true even if they are in hot pursuit, treeing, fighting game, whatever. It is backed up by a shock if they don't respond but it doesn't take many lessons for them to get the picture. The key is to use the lowest shock setting that will get a response and never quit once you've started. A bad session that ends with the dog coming to you is better than any situation where the dog wins and gets away from you. Having a GPS collar on the dog while this initial training is going on is the key and will let you keep close in with your dog even if it's high tailing it for far off lands. In most cases it won't but you don't know when that will be so borrow a GPS if you don't have one because if the dog gets out of collar range on you, you are going to wish you had never started this. Done correctly, the dog will not only come when you hit the tone button, it will start to rely on it being a good warning signal and trust that noise when it hears it. It's a lot like when there is a pack of coyotes in an area and a man comes in and does some predator calling. If one of the coyotes figures you out it will likely bark once or twice like a yard dog. If you hear this you might was well leave because all of the other coyotes have been warned and are not going to come to your calls. There are exceptions to this but they are not relative to the point I'm making. Anyhow, I'm sure you get what I'm saying by now. This obedience to the tone function on an e-collar has saved my dogs from getting hit by cars on many occations. In addition, it is also how I get them off of running unwanted game or stock. It's slower than shocking them for running off-game but it is more effective over the long term. When my dog is running a deer (a big no-no in my state) I just beep them in. There is no hard feeling from the dog and we're right back to hunting what we came to hunt. 2 Quote Link to post
johnny 2 367 Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 I don't know how electrocuting a dog could encourage it to come to you Has anyone succeeded in using a shock collar for this purpose? Not only did the dog come back it also stayed to heel.{pre ban} Quote Link to post
Dranny GLC 112 Posted October 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 How do you train them with the ecollar? Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 collars can at times be a very usefull tool if used correctly ,for bad habits in some animals, that otherwise could have been meanuing the bulletfor the said animal . IN all the yrs keeping animals thought i would neva need to resort to the collar ,but hey there will allways be one .And yes it worked a treat for the habit that was needed to correct the animal and we now back on track.neva say neva one neva knows high driven animals wanting to put there teeth in any thing and everything ,at times need a different approach.atb bunnnys. Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted October 21, 2013 Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Loads of vids on you tube with training collars.. I had a dogs that was murder with sheep and cats.. Collar cured it straight off.. This dog would remember where it last seen a cat and would pile over fences into gardens looking for cats.. ^^^ This was in a field that backed onto houses.. Its all timing with them collars.. You cant just blast them before you give them a chance to respond.. If my dog was doing what yours was, I would: Firstly have him out day time or along side the bike, to take the energy edge off him. Forget about catching rabbits - going with friends. Take you dog out in the dark with your collar and lamp.. Let him off - when he begins hunting up, call him back - when ignored, call him and give sound blast straight after.. If that ignored call again - sound - if that's ignored blast him on level 2/3 - if he ignores that 4/5 ( he may cry out, on that level) and it needs to go back to 2/3. That will of upset him and got his attention, call him in and make a big fuss.. Let him away off again.. Call him and if he blanks you, give him another call and the sound.. He will likely come flying back if he don't repeat the first steps again.. Don't go crazy zapping them, they don't need much.. My dogs recall bang on, bar when hunting for cats or pulling woollies.. It was worth while me doing this and it worked.. I maybe aint explained it that well - if you can get out with someone it may help.. I never had any assistance but had watched few vids and spoke to a fella on the phone.. Bet some lads could cure that dog with out a collar.. Collars a short cut but get it wrong your dog will be shit scared and maybe head for the hills. Was a web site you could hire collars.. I bought a sportdog collar. Quote Link to post
Dranny GLC 112 Posted October 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 Cheers pal some good advise I'm gonna give it another big push at trainning him not lamping him with the lad, and I no improvement ill get one after Xmas. Quote Link to post
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