When Do Lines Become Your Own

[obi2 239]

When breeding terriers at which point does the line become your own. Alot if lines spoke about always seem to come from years ago. I would say if you bred a litter of pups yourself then those pups are from your own line. You are the one that chose the dog/bitch to be put to and know what you want from the pups. What are people's thoughts on this.

[Accip74 7,112]

Good question, it should take many years and many generations to accurately describe creating a line, at some point you have to decide when to breed back to related stock etc pups produced should be proven before breeding from them, realistically a minimum of 3 years (although many don't) blah blah blah unless you have a lot of stock on the go, it's gonna take many years & many tried & tested dogs, unless you start inbreeding first generation etc etc I think a lot of guys claim there own lines prematurely.

We started something many years back combining to famous lines, dogs were produced & proven but the whole thing imploded prematurely due to circumstances, maybe if it had carried on all these years later we could of claimed it as our own but not much before.......

[12 gauge 39]

when you feed and work them and so on till you can no more from old age. hopefully some legit people will take over then its their line

Edited October 19, 2013 by 12 gauge

[bbs 26]

I personaly say if you got 4th and 5th genaration bred by your self and are bred from the best avalible stock then maby its your line

keep hunting

[northern lad 2,292]

If you have bred three generations I would consider this a line......good ,bad or indifferent Obi Id say you are starting a line

[obi2 239]

Good answers guys thanks

[marshman 7,757]

I'm sure different men have different views on when a line becomes their own. For me it's all about consistently producing workers from a family of dogs over several generations . If the dogs ain't producing a real good percentage of workers then it's not worth calling them " your own line" ?

[Accip74 7,112]

The interesting thing is the definition of 'line', yeh you could breed 3 generations of dogs, starting with your two, breed a bitch & 3 years later breed from her & so on......

But if your not sourcing dogs that are in some way related to your original stock when lining said birches, in 3 generations I don't think you've created anything.....your just breeding terriers.

It would be interesting to hear peoples definition of 'a line' ATB

[dytkos 17,801]

I can trace the line of my dog back many, many generations back to the original breeder.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

John Russell

 

Seriously though, difficult question. Would have been easier "back in the day" when there wasn't the clamour for the "famous names". Tthe shows in the 70s were partly (and probably unaware that they were) reponsible at the beginning but the internet has took over in the last decade or so.

Everybody wants the best terrier, be it a "branded" one or one off decent parents that you know without any fanfares.

Plummer did it and there are different lines from his original stock, the breed only having been "created" in the last few decades

 

Good thread Obi

 

Cheers, D.

[The RevRant 48]

when you out cross its no longer anyones line but your own but i would say you would have to keep that line you have made and breed for 4 to 5 gens and could take 20 years plus to test them right just what i think

[the_stig 6,614]

do they ever ---- you buy your founder dogs from joe bloggs breed 3-5 generations ----from said dogs and and there off spring ------------------ so when does your name get put to it ...?

[Accip74 7,112]

When you go round calling it the 'the stig' strain lol........for example....

[Ideation 8,216]

Lines are interesting things . . . . and maybe you get one when you come up with something new or different in some way. . . . or specialised.

 

Because you cant get one from just breeding a litter. Because I could go to my mate who has been breeding a line of terriers for say 20 years. . . . get a bitch pup. . . . stick one of his dogs over it after a few years. . . . . get a litter. . . . . and call it my line????? Not really!

 

A line has to have some consistency I guess . . . . . and maybe some uniqueness?

[the_stig 6,614]

When you go round calling it the 'the stig' strain lol........for example....

do you ever when I first started I had all my terriers from a fella called alan dodd I kept his line goin for 10 year don't make it my line ---I was just a breeder of terriers ..

[Accip74 7,112]

It was a joke mate......not particuly funny, but a joke all the same.........I've heard many a guy referring to his own strain without any real substance to it ATB