Muslim Patrol East London

[gnasher16 30,256]

Gnash. It's the apathy... The total lack of fucks given. Yelling at a few foreigners isn't change... infact it's now a hate crime. Unless people are going to be engaged with anything other than Big Brother 6901 then it's all for nothing.

 

There will be no blood in the streets, only broken flat screens looted from Rumbelows.

 

Like i say......all things must have a beginning a middle and an end...............i see and hear the beginning on pretty much a daily basis....sorry but im not going to ignore my own eyes and ears.

[gnasher16 30,256]

I don't think much much more go's on than ever did, there's just more ways of hearing about stuff.

 

I had trouble with ethnics when I was 8,9,10 years old and I had it at 20 odd years old........so what?

Aggro don't change, it's only the rules of engagement that change.......always have, always will.

 

London has had ethnics and their associated gangs since Adam was a lad so I am afraid there's nothing new happening.

 

I think the difference though Wilf is when you/we was younguns it was the skinhead/paki bashing type of thing.............today its regular people not far righters............the splits in our communities we are starting to see today is not like groups of lads running round fighting like years ago......the splits now are housewives,normal working folk not just groups of lads.

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Gnash. Maybe I'm cynical... I don't doubt what you see and here but I see and hear a lot of complaining about it, too... but that's just it.

 

Talk

Edited February 8, 2014 by ChrisJones

[gnasher16 30,256]

Gnash. Maybe I'm cynical... I don't doubt what you see and here but I see and hear a lot of complaining about it, too... but that's just it.

 

Talk

 

Go have a walk around some inner city council estates mate......im not saying theirs wars on the streets......but theres certainly a bit more than just talk of late...............its how it was always going to be if you ask me nobody should be surprised.

[WILF 47,353]

 

I don't think much much more go's on than ever did, there's just more ways of hearing about stuff.I had trouble with ethnics when I was 8,9,10 years old and I had it at 20 odd years old........so what?Aggro don't change, it's only the rules of engagement that change.......always have, always will.London has had ethnics and their associated gangs since Adam was a lad so I am afraid there's nothing new happening.

I think the difference though Wilf is when you/we was younguns it was the skinhead/paki bashing type of thing.............today its regular people not far righters............the splits in our communities we are starting to see today is not like groups of lads running round fighting like years ago......the splits now are housewives,normal working folk not just groups of lads.

Fair comment mate, but if its a battle then what I notice in the little place where I live is that is a very subtle quiet battle......and I believe that's the way forward.

The government have it easy when it comes to blatant displays of violence or discrimination......they just come and lock you up.

But by quietly sticking to your values and bit putting up with any nonsense, there's not much they can do about that.

 

You notice it on something as silly as the school run, we have had an influx into our village over the last 10 years of Africans from Newham........a few bring with them all their pig ignorant ways and some people are a bit afraid to say anything cause they have never had to deal with spades before.

But you know the golden rule with spades and I'm sure I don't have to tell you, you have to give them it large and put them right when they start acting the goat......I've had to give a few a bit of a dressing down.

 

But when I look at it, I've had to do the same with a few white folk too so I can't hand on heart say its the sole preserve of Africans to be like this.

Some of the African kids are top, top kids......polite as f**k, top achievers in school.

Some of the white kids are getting brought to school and the mum still has Charlie round her bugle.

 

I've said this before in conversations with you pal, we can all say what we like about ethnics BUT I don't believe we have a leg to stand on until we get our own act together about how we conduct ourself as a race of people.

[WILF 47,353]

As a footnote, I think things like this "Asian Vigelante Gangs" are a complete gift to those who want to preserve what Britian is.........it's easy as f**k for the government to deal with, they can't just ignore it and they can't use that word "racism" in regard to people wanting something done about it.

 

See, IMHO if there is such a thing as a "race war" it won't be won by gangs of boot boys roaming the streets committing violence......it will be won by the quiet middle class 40 something's quietly going about there business, upholding family values and refusing to allow those they elect to let foreign nut cases come over and act a c**t too loud.

 

Id like to see more Muslim Vigelante gangs, I'd like to see more no go area estates, I'd like to see more crime ridden ghettos.........give these people enough rope and they will hang themselves we just have to make sure we keep ourself as a race squared away and up together;)

 

There's more than one way to skin a cat chaps.......up here for thinking, down there for dancing

Edited February 9, 2014 by WILF

[Waz 4,266]

The bigger picture..., my opinion TPTB are using divide and conquer, this allows them to go about their business why the man on the street is unhappy about "blankety blank", & or let things escalate to suit the bigger picture - so if things are kicking off and being kept out of the MSM, its because TPTB dont want it to escalate yet or ever. The nationwide riots were well reported and even locations of live "looting" etc broadcast... OB standing well back, did they let it happen?

Edited February 9, 2014 by GD Waz

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Go have a walk around some inner city council estates mate......im not saying theirs wars on the streets......but theres certainly a bit more than just talk of late...............its how it was always going to be if you ask me nobody should be surprised.

 

Grew up on one. Know enough friends and relatives on a few to make it hard to miss them. Fact is they talk the talk. They complain about it but things like voting, and going to work, are too much hassle for these upstanding citizens.

 

I don't doubt that are people actively involved in this.

 

But I do know that there are many many more that won't get any further than General Talk on whichever forum they want to complain about in.

 

I don't doubt anyone's commitment to whatever cause it is... But if you're actively engaged then you're still a minority for a foreseeable future, IMHO.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,112]

I live in a new build block of flats in Ipswich, nothing flash but when I moved in in 2008, it was all very exciting nice neighbours everywhere , if I went away on a weekend I'd drop the spare key in with the retired nurse over the corridor for her to pop in, everyone spoke all nice and clean

 

The dhss got their noses in at the block and now it's a pisshole, Turks Asians blacks and poles everywhere, music till daft a clock every night, spew and empty s in the stairwells, corridors smelling of weed and curry , English is now a second language in the block, battered vectras and pimped beamers have replaced the soccer kid runarounds that were there 5 years ago

 

I complained and it wasn't until a member of this site explained about being English that it dawned on me

 

I get a pint of milk delivered daily, I don't buy in polish or foreign shops, I wash my own car, I don't let the poles teach my kids at nursery,or service my car , were a British family living in Britain but we are slowly being eroded into a race of people too afraid to be laughed at for being patriotic, as it's cool to make fun of narrow minded middle englanders , but it is happening, were going to end up like Americans claiming descendancy from countries we've never been to shortly

[gnasher16 30,256]

As a footnote, I think things like this "Asian Vigelante Gangs" are a complete gift to those who want to preserve what Britian is.........it's easy as f**k for the government to deal with, they can't just ignore it and they can't use that word "racism" in regard to people wanting something done about it.

 

See, IMHO if there is such a thing as a "race war" it won't be won by gangs of boot boys roaming the streets committing violence......it will be won by the quiet middle class 40 something's quietly going about there business, upholding family values and refusing to allow those they elect to let foreign nut cases come over and act a c**t too loud.

 

Id like to see more Muslim Vigelante gangs, I'd like to see more no go area estates, I'd like to see more crime ridden ghettos.........give these people enough rope and they will hang themselves we just have to make sure we keep ourself as a race squared away and up together;)

 

There's more than one way to skin a cat chaps.......up here for thinking, down there for dancing

 

I used to think like that mate but over the years ive seen where sitting back and having faith in sensible people in suits gets you......i still believe the most powerful voice is the voice of the people not politicians......some have given up on people,i saw your other post where you talk about how your village is changing and i know what your saying.....if im not wrong mate your out of a similar area to me originally but i think the difference is maybe naively i still have faith in my own people....yes theres plenty of shit and scum amongst our own race but ive never forgot that i was one of them once and if folk like you or me can elevate our lives and become half decent folk then so can the people living that life today......i believe all being equal the core basic morals of the English shitbag you refer to is for want of a better term ( a higher class of shitbag ) than the Africans you speak of......ive been around areas taken over by Somalians/Ethiopians etc.....they are simply unclean in their habits and a totally different form of " shitbag " to what we know.......with English shitbags we know where we are,with them we dont !!...

All being equal i still believe the most powerful voice is not necessarily the one with the most numbers we see that in every day life....better to go to war with 5 lions than 500 sheep and all that caper !.......There is only so long that people with power can turn a blind eye to what regular everyday members of our communitites are feeling.....this forced integration that our generation has been lumbered with will be remembered through history and probably laughed at when sanity is eventually restored......how far off that is who knows maybe it still has to get worse before it gets better.......but better it will be one day that im sure of and when it does it will have been through the power of the everyday people....shitbags and all in my opinion.

Edited February 9, 2014 by gnasher16

[gnasher16 30,256]

 

Go have a walk around some inner city council estates mate......im not saying theirs wars on the streets......but theres certainly a bit more than just talk of late...............its how it was always going to be if you ask me nobody should be surprised.

 

Grew up on one. Know enough friends and relatives on a few to make it hard to miss them. Fact is they talk the talk. They complain about it but things like voting, and going to work, are too much hassle for these upstanding citizens.

 

I don't doubt that are people actively involved in this.

 

But I do know that there are many many more that won't get any further than General Talk on whichever forum they want to complain about in.

 

I don't doubt anyone's commitment to whatever cause it is... But if you're actively engaged then you're still a minority for a foreseeable future, IMHO.

 

Shame so many people forget every struggle they ever had in lifes journey........having grown up on a council estate yourself why would you have such apathy ( to use your own word ) towards people who grow up on council estates ?.......What is it you think folk should be doing anyway ? The start of most problem solving begins with a bit of complaining and whingeing why would this one be any different........

 

Wait dont tell me this is going to end in one of them little " Vote Ukip " tags like what the little lads off the estates put on their graffiti

Ukip being the hi viz vest of our societies ......we,re all safe and cant possibly come to harm just as long as we vote Ukip

Edited February 9, 2014 by gnasher16

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Shame so many people forget every struggle they ever had in lifes journey........having grown up on a council estate yourself why would you have such apathy ( to use your own word ) towards people who grow up on council estates ?.......What is it you think folk should be doing anyway ? The start of most problem solving begins with a bit of complaining and whingeing why would this one be any different........

 

Wait dont tell me this is going to end in one of them little " Vote Ukip " tags like what the little lads off the estates put on their graffiti

Ukip being the hi viz vest of our societies ......we,re all safe and cant possibly come to harm just as long as we vote Ukip

 

 

Gnash. I moved away. I broke the cycle. I worked hard and got the f**k out. I don't have apathy for the situation, as I refused to be dragged into it. I wasn't having my kids growing up to be plastic gangsters, and I've had enough of my hard earned shit destroyed by people who won't work for themselves. I've always tried to give as much as I can, to help my neighbours, but community is dying. It's been long dead in some areas. You know which ones are near you, as do I near me.

 

I haven't forgotten my journey. It's been an arduous one but I took it to protect those I love from those that want to take all that I have. I've seen the government (legal thieves) empty my wallet, every single day. I've also seen the scum empty enough of my gear to have zero fucks for some of my so called neighbours. I realised that the only change I could make was with my feet. So I walked.

 

It's not my call to create policy for the rest of my fellow human beings. To each his own but the apathy shown by most is why we're in the state we're in. People simply do not give a f**k. The dole drops them money and they spend it on beer, cigs and drugs whilst complaining they don't have enough to put nappies on the kids. They can spend it on whatever they want to but if they truly give a shit their kids would come first. Instead they get a master class on how to take from the system while contributing nothing.

 

I understand that complaining and whinging is the start but again it's not enough and it's all that's going on.

 

What should folk be doing? We could try not being c**ts to each other for starters. That's actually free and requires only minimal effort. However it has little cash incentive so isn't for everyone.

 

UKIP. I'm going to give them a shot when the time comes around, it'll make a change from my usual spoiled ballot. I'm skeptical of all politicians. They're all lying cheating b*****ds but these lying cheating b*****ds are currently untested and spinning a rhetoric that hasn't been heard for a very long time. Again that sliver of hope that maybe someone could upset the status quo in the giant government cash machine. Maybe someone could actually make things better. I'm not expecting miracles. I'm not expecting anything of the sound bites we hear. I'm expecting just a slice of respect from the people we pay to do the job... UKIP? Just maybe, for once, I can speak to an MP that respects us for a little longer than election season.

 

Will it work? Will it change anything? Will they do this? That? Or anything they promised?

 

Probably not but I still have that little flame of hope left.

Edited February 10, 2014 by ChrisJones

[TUFFTY 1,476]

Well im currently living in E15.

Quite place most of the time.

Its about 20 to 1 here.

The one being white English.

The majority are eastern Europeans, turks indians africans

West indians. Lol

[Outlaw Pete 2,224]

Blah, blah, blah

 

 

And I, literally, had to send my right hand in, against my left hand, having read that!

 

Just to Stop them, quite spontaneously, going: :clapper:

 

F**k! No good. That post was So Good I automatically by passed shit anyway, look! Damn!

[hawki 1,431]

 

Shame so many people forget every struggle they ever had in lifes journey........having grown up on a council estate yourself why would you have such apathy ( to use your own word ) towards people who grow up on council estates ?.......What is it you think folk should be doing anyway ? The start of most problem solving begins with a bit of complaining and whingeing why would this one be any different........

 

Wait dont tell me this is going to end in one of them little " Vote Ukip " tags like what the little lads off the estates put on their graffiti

Ukip being the hi viz vest of our societies ......we,re all safe and cant possibly come to harm just as long as we vote Ukip

 

 

Gnash. I moved away. I broke the cycle. I worked hard and got the f**k out. I don't have apathy for the situation, as I refused to be dragged into it. I wasn't having my kids growing up to be plastic gangsters, and I've had enough of my hard earned shit destroyed by people who won't work for themselves. I've always tried to give as much as I can, to help my neighbours, but community is dying. It's been long dead in some areas. You know which ones are near you, as do I near me.

 

I haven't forgotten my journey. It's been an arduous one but I took it to protect those I love from those that want to take all that I have. I've seen the government (legal thieves) empty my wallet, every single day. I've also seen the scum empty enough of my gear to have zero fucks for some of my so called neighbours. I realised that the only change I could make was with my feet. So I walked.

 

It's not my call to create policy for the rest of my fellow human beings. To each his own but the apathy shown by most is why we're in the state we're in. People simply do not give a f**k. The dole drops them money and they spend it on beer, cigs and drugs whilst complaining they don't have enough to put nappies on the kids. They can spend it on whatever they want to but if they truly give a shit their kids would come first. Instead they get a master class on how to take from the system while contributing nothing.

 

I understand that complaining and whinging is the start but again it's not enough and it's all that's going on.

 

What should folk be doing? We could try not being c**ts to each other for starters. That's actually free and requires only minimal effort. However it has little cash incentive so isn't for everyone.

 

UKIP. I'm going to give them a shot when the time comes around, it'll make a change from my usual spoiled ballot. I'm skeptical of all politicians. They're all lying cheating b*****ds but these lying cheating b*****ds are currently untested and spinning a rhetoric that hasn't been heard for a very long time. Again that sliver of hope that maybe someone could upset the status quo in the giant government cash machine. Maybe someone could actually make things better. I'm not expecting miracles. I'm not expecting anything of the sound bites we hear. I'm expecting just a slice of respect from the people we pay to do the job... UKIP? Just maybe, for once, I can speak to an MP that respects us for a little longer than election season.

 

Will it work? Will it change anything? Will they do this? That? Or anything they promised?

 

Probably not but I still have that little flame of hope left.