jukel123 7,957 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) Recall is one of the most important attributes in a lurcher. I train mine to a whistle. Plenty of praise when they return, plenty of bollockings when they ignore you. I do this from 12 weeks old. By the time they are ready to run it's ingrained in them and they actually get a bang out of returning because they know I'm going to praise them. In your case it's going to be more difficult because of the dog's age. You were probably sold the dog because it hunted up, but weren't told this by the seller. You say the dog is responsive during the day so you should have a reasonable chance of getting across to the animal that two pips on a whistle means come back and if it doesn't return it's in big trouble. No need to hammer the dog, a run up to it cursing like hell will get the message through to most dogs. If it's really thick skinned take it by the scruff and shake it. Never let the dog away with ignoring you, NOT EVEN ONCE because give an inch and most hunting dogs will take ten miles. I fecked my first lurcher by not knowing how to teach recall. It took a long time to correct the fault. I made sure I didn't make the same mistake again. Keep at it. You can teach an old dog new tricks. Not always, but it's worth a damn good try. Edited October 23, 2013 by jukel123 1 Quote Link to post
Dranny GLC 112 Posted October 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Cheers pal that sounds like some really good advice, I didn't want to start carrying on with him when he doesn't return straight away as people say it will make it worse but I thought If i did give him a bollocking and make it clear I'm not happy with his recall he might think twice about hunting up next time,but if I do bollock him will he no it's because he took to long to come back or will he think it because he missed a rabbit or that he got a rabbit? Quote Link to post
Dan Robertson 0 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 I had my bitch at 14 month did exactly the same. I gave her a smack on the nose when she didn't come straight back, soon snapped out of it, now when the lamps switched off she comes straight back with or without the bunny.? Quote Link to post
Dranny GLC 112 Posted October 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 My mate does the same if his dog plays up gives it a wack and then it comes back staight away I'm just scared of making it worse but I'm starting to think they can't get much worse, gonna give it another go tonight with the bacon rewards and try give him a bollocking if he doesn't Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 I had my bitch at 14 month did exactly the same. I gave her a smack on the nose when she didn't come straight back, soon snapped out of it, now when the lamps switched off she comes straight back with or without the bunny. 14 Month and you had to smack it into submission.How much time did you put into training before hand.And how many smacks did it take. ? Quote Link to post
jukel123 7,957 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Cheers pal that sounds like some really good advice, I didn't want to start carrying on with him when he doesn't return straight away as people say it will make it worse but I thought If i did give him a bollocking and make it clear I'm not happy with his recall he might think twice about hunting up next time,but if I do bollock him will he no it's because he took to long to come back or will he think it because he missed a rabbit or that he got a rabbit? Get him used to the idea of returning to you on command. Start him in an enclosed space, a garden or small field-even your living room.Once he's got the idea that returning will result in a treat and praise, you are half way there. However there will come a point when he decides to ignore you. At that precise moment run towards him and bollock him. chances are he'll be really surprised and will fawn all over you. It's easier to use a whistle because the whistle tone is immediate and is always the same tone. Get into his head whistle means return and praise/reward. Ignoring the whistle means a crazy man running towards him cursing. Get a book on gundog training, libraries have them. The principles of recall are the same whatever breed. It works for me. 1 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,077 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Recall is one of the most important attributes in a lurcher. I train mine to a whistle. Plenty of praise when they return, plenty of bollockings when they ignore you. I do this from 12 weeks old. By the time they are ready to run it's ingrained in them and they actually get a bang out of returning because they know I'm going to praise them. In your case it's going to be more difficult because of the dog's age. You were probably sold the dog because it hunted up, but weren't told this by the seller. You say the dog is responsive during the day so you should have a reasonable chance of getting across to the animal that two pips on a whistle means come back and if it doesn't return it's in big trouble. No need to hammer the dog, a run up to it cursing like hell will get the message through to most dogs. If it's really thick skinned take it by the scruff and shake it. Never let the dog away with ignoring you, NOT EVEN ONCE because give an inch and most hunting dogs will take ten miles. I fecked my first lurcher by not knowing how to teach recall. It took a long time to correct the fault. I made sure I didn't make the same mistake again. Keep at it. You can teach an old dog new tricks. Not always, but it's worth a damn good try. the dog 5 months old mate ffs sold it on because it hunted up the dogs still young get it out with the ferret Quote Link to post
Dranny GLC 112 Posted October 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Iv a 5 month pup and a 3 year old saluki bull x that I got when he was 14 months old its him that hunting up. The pups recall is 100% Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,077 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Iv a 5 month pup and a 3 year old saluki bull x that I got when he was 14 months old its him that hunting up. The pups recall is 100% thought it was the pup mate Quote Link to post
foresterj 1,096 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 Some apalling advice.hit something to make it want to come back? Say it out loud slowly and see if it sounds sensible.ffs. Quote Link to post
Dranny GLC 112 Posted October 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 This is why I avent, im scared of making him worse but Im really lost for ideas I can't get near him his recall is perfect when there no rabbits about but how do you get it through to him I'm not happy about waiting about in a field for 5 mins while he scares all are sport away and comes back when he feels like it and then I give him some bacon as a reward for returning and taking the piss. ??? Quote Link to post
Dan Robertson 0 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 It had a smack on the nose I didn't kick its brains out my dog is spot you train yours how want to and I'll do exactly the same Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 It had a smack on the nose I didn't kick its brains out my dog is spot you train yours how want to and I'll do exactly the same It had a smack on the nose I didn't kick its brains out my dog is spot you train yours how want to and I'll do exactly the same If the dogs that intelligent to know why its getting hit.Surely it would have came in when called. ? 1 Quote Link to post
Dan Robertson 0 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 f**k off you tit Quote Link to post
Blind Hawk 57 Posted October 23, 2013 Report Share Posted October 23, 2013 ....................... ....................... ...................... ............. THE NEXT NIGHT YOU BRING OUT YOUR DOG ........RUN AWAY FROM IT Quote Link to post
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