Dog Won't Come Back.

[old school 517]

havent read all the replies but id recommend a shock collar... i used it on the ex track greyhounds and it was fkin brilliant!! let him wear it for a few days before you switch it on so he doesnt associate the shock with the collar and they soon realise that when your voice gets serious followed by a warning bleep from the collar they better get theyr asses back to your side!

[Catcher 1 639]

f**k off you tit

Ha ha.Now we know why you hit your dogs.

[Ideation 8,216]

I don't know if it's been mentioned and i've had a long day so I cant be arsed to read all the usual 'hit it' bollocks. . . . . #

 

 

But I have a dog here that had ok recall in the house, yard, dead ground etc. . . . but when lamping hunted up to f**k. . . . . mainly because he had been used for a lot of day work, where he had been allowed to have his head and hunt at fairly great distances on his own. . . . .

 

He now has much better recall on the lamp. . . . .

 

What I did was the fabled 'yoyo method'. . . . . .

 

Take the dog out on a night where its perfect lamping conditions and the dog CANT hunt up effectivly as its senses are f****d by the rain, wind, darkness etc. . . . get it somewhere where there are lots of rabbits and run the f****r.. . . . as soon as it misses or catches. . . . get that dog back. . . . even if you have to cross the field and catch it to get it back on the slip. . . . then run it again straight away. . . . . then again and again. . . . knacker it out. Soon enough it will learn that its chance of success is far greater when it comes back to you and gets the help of the light. . . and the more tired it gets, the less it will want to hunt up also.

[stripes 401]

Let me get this right, if the dog doesnt come back you run up to it and give it a smack, the only message that is getting across to the dog is if your near him you hit him, dog makes sure he doesnt stop running next time. Danny i will ask you again has the 3 year old dog ever had a rabbit in its mouth,,, if it had a rabbit in its mouth did the dog retrieve it or run off with it.

[stripes 401]

I don't know if it's been mentioned and i've had a long day so I cant be arsed to read all the usual 'hit it' bollocks. . . . . #

 

 

But I have a dog here that had ok recall in the house, yard, dead ground etc. . . . but when lamping hunted up to f**k. . . . . mainly because he had been used for a lot of day work, where he had been allowed to have his head and hunt at fairly great distances on his own. . . . .

 

He now has much better recall on the lamp. . . . .

 

What I did was the fabled 'yoyo method'. . . . . .

 

Take the dog out on a night where its perfect lamping conditions and the dog CANT hunt up effectivly as its senses are f****d by the rain, wind, darkness etc. . . . get it somewhere where there are lots of rabbits and run the f****r.. . . . as soon as it misses or catches. . . . get that dog back. . . . even if you have to cross the field and catch it to get it back on the slip. . . . then run it again straight away. . . . . then again and again. . . . knacker it out. Soon enough it will learn that its chance of success is far greater when it comes back to you and gets the help of the light. . . and the more tired it gets, the less it will want to hunt up also.

At fookin last somebody talkin sense,, thats why i asked if the dog has had a rabbit in its mouth, more catches more runs,

[Dranny GLC 112]

The dog has cough about 100 rabbits and he mainly kills it in the field and drops it. And runs off for another. I was new to the sport when I got him at 14 months old and hen I went out local I thought that was what it was all about the catch and new I av progressed and got more experiance and been out with other lads I now no there a lot more to the sport

[Dranny GLC 112]

We go out every Thursday night and he always catches between 5 and 1 but still kills it and goes off unless I can get to him and get him back on lead before he gets chance to go again.

[Dranny GLC 112]

I also think I have made things worse buy when he has been hunting up in the dark and I can't see him iv put my beam on to look for him shouting him but if he has nocked up a rabbit I have lamped the chase so maybe he trying to hunt up so I lamp them for him?

[Giro 2,648]

Danny stop taking him out on a full moon..

 

Give yourself half a chance

[stripes 401]

Danny have you tried him on a retractable lead, enter field were you know there will be rabbits, keep the light off until you get as close as you can, switch on light , let the dog off the slip, if you have to run to get closer do it. Switch light off ,you can still control the dog, pull him back to you,keep light off, repeat .Make sure theres no moon and plenty of wind.

[jonnygray 139]

had a bitch that was completely the opposite, id borrowed her to kennel with a bitch that was noisy when alone and during the off season made a right racket, she was 18 months old big wooly saluki x, took them both for a good hike daytime and every run she had straight back to me, free running and everytime she was shouted straight back to me, turn and head for home and off she went took an hour each time to get her back, she would just stand in the field and look at me 50 yards away. out on the lamp ive never had a more well behaved dog, if she caught to be fair she would kill as she had only been used on big ears daytime when i got her so wasnt a rabbit dog so would kill and no retrieve but light went off she was back by my side faster than she went. few lamping trips i thought she had learnt to trust me and all was ok. next daytime trip same old story all ok till the walk back and no f****n chance, hour later before shes back on lead, tried walking her lead only for a fortnight only made it worse when i let her off no chance, but on the lamp still perfect recall lamp off, no shout, no whistle straight by my side. really think if the damage has been done in those early 12,15,18 months you really are going to struggle to turn that around. best of luck though pal just dont let the pup get into the same habits.

[Dranny GLC 112]

E collar is amazing just been out lamping and used it. It worked brilliant only had to shock him twice then just use the warning vibration as soon as he had missed a rabbit and then he would come straight back no messing about hunting up in dark. Evan got a rabbit to finish our night. Really happy with him just need to sort his retrieve out next.